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12/29/2012 12:35:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
DISCLAIMERS

This mafia game may be run differently than my old games, so fair warning, Mod psychology probably won't be effective here. Some of my usual themes won't apply here. Also from playing on mafiascum, I may have adopted 1 or 2 modding ideas, so don't be completely surprised if you see some things unusual to DDO in this game (though you probably won't see too many).
Also if there are hints the OP's they will be for all teams, not for or against any specific team.

RULES

1. I don't care if you copy and paste your role PM into the game. Some of you may have different wording than others in your role PM than others.

2. I generally allow talking at the end of the DP, however, for this game it will not be allowed, for certain reason I will not disclaim.

3. Keep the name calling down. If you wish to dis-agree with someone, please do so without calling them an "idiot" or whatever names we commonly use here on DDO. I will give you three strikes until I mod-kill you so please be curteous. Also it just makes the game more fun if we can all play nice and keep the belated Christmas Spirit in the air.

4. All other standard mafia rules apply. If you have questions about any of the rules, PM me, and I will clarify publicy in the announcement thread.

5. I reserve the right to add or change any rules at my discretion, however any rule additions or changes will be for the sake of making the game fair to all players.

6. Have fun! I will mod-kill you if you don't have fun. JK. Enjoy the game mates!

"Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that St Nicholas soon would be there.

The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of sugar-plums danced in their heads.
And mamma in her "kerchief, and I in my cap,
Had just settled our brains for a long winter"s nap.

When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.

The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the lustre of mid-day to objects below.
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a miniature sleigh, and eight tinny reindeer.

With a little old driver, so lively and quick,
I knew in a moment it must be St Nick.
More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!"

LIVING PLAYERS

1. RationalMadman
2. Chicken
3. Niwsa
4. johnnyboy
5. Daytonanerd
6. Marauder
7. Buddhamoose
8. Ishall
9. jordan
10. DetectableNinja
11. IFLY
12. TheAntidoter
13. Zaradi
14. Bossyburrito
15. bull-diesel
16. Ore_Ele
17. Fourtrouble
18. Military_atheist
19. Quarter Exchange
20. HCP

With 20 people, it takes 11 votes to lynch.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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12/29/2012 12:37:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Who are Cow_Unleaded and Nickel Transfer?

VTL Nickel Transfers

For a claim
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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12/29/2012 12:41:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:37:38 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Who are Cow_Unleaded and Nickel Transfer?

VTL Nickel Transfers

For a claim

http://www.debate.org...

Don't know about Bull. I don't know if QE has played mafia at all.

Might as well not split the votes. VTL Quarter
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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12/29/2012 12:42:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:41:28 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Yes Master Tuf!

VTL Budda for a claim

What is this about?
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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12/29/2012 12:43:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:42:35 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:41:28 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Yes Master Tuf!

VTL Budda for a claim

What is this about?

Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?
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12/29/2012 12:44:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:42:32 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Anyone wanna take a stab at why the letters are bolded?

So we can see that Tuf has spelled out

"Begin my minions."

I'm assuming that's how he'll get his messages out.
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12/29/2012 12:44:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:42:32 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Anyone wanna take a stab at why the letters are bolded?

Let's see.
B
E
G
I
N

M
I
N
I
O
N
S
!

No wonder you lost those riddle debates :
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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12/29/2012 12:45:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:43:08 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:42:35 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:41:28 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Yes Master Tuf!

VTL Budda for a claim

What is this about?

Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?

You should get new players to claim first. They're more likely to slip.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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12/29/2012 12:46:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
About to get a lump of coal for X-Mas

QuarterExchange-1/11- BossyBurrito
Buddamoose-1/11- Ishallannoyyo
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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12/29/2012 12:46:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:42:32 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Anyone wanna take a stab at why the letters are bolded?

They spell out "begin minions." This is similar to what he said in the announcement PM, "Have fun Minions!" I'd think it was just for fun. Later DPs will likely have the actual clues.
"Wanting Red Rhino Pill to have gender"
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12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to her own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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12/29/2012 1:00:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
If anyone wants an analysis of why Ishalls suggestion is anti-town and this scummy, i will. But that should honestly be self-evident
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?
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12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.
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12/29/2012 1:17:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.

Character?
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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12/29/2012 1:19:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:17:06 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.

Character?

Santa's Elves.
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12/29/2012 1:23:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:19:26 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:17:06 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.

Character?

Santa's Elves.

That is oddly vague compared to my character. I think we should get another claim or two, but we should really come back to this. Especially if those other claims turn out to be fairly specific.
"Wanting Red Rhino Pill to have gender"
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12/29/2012 1:33:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:23:25 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:19:26 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:17:06 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.

Character?

Santa's Elves.

That is oddly vague compared to my character. I think we should get another claim or two, but we should really come back to this. Especially if those other claims turn out to be fairly specific.

Well Santa's Elves are always addressed as a group, never as individual elves.
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12/29/2012 1:48:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:19:26 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:17:06 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.

Character?

Santa's Elves.
THAT'S FVCKING BS!

I'm A vinilla townie, and my claim is way more complicated then that!

COUNTERCLAIM: VINILLA TOWNIE

Let's do this.
Affinity: Fire
Class: Human
Abilities: ????

Nac.

WOAH, COLORED FONT!
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12/29/2012 1:58:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Ishall your suggestion was scummy because it punishes active players by forcing them to claim. If we solely got claims from people on Dp1 because they were posting, what would that cause? Players to be inactive and not post so they dont claim.

Inactivity is ALWAYS DETRIMENTAL to town, and your suggested change in SOP will cause that guaranteed. So the premise here is:

1) Getting claims from active players will cause players to not post
2) If players are not posting then they are inactive
3) if players are inactive, this will make the game more difficult for town.

C) Ishalls suggestion will hurt town, and is thus scummy.

Need i say more?

@Abtidoter- maybe you havent checked. But vanilla is not generally considered a CC'able role, why? A vanilla is actually the absence of a role, not a role in itself.

I will say that Ishall's claim is scummy, not because its been cc'd, but rather differs from another vanilla claim, and Ore_Ele and now myself, have come forth and said the charavter claim, santa's elves, vastly differs in specificity from our character(which are much more specific).

Ladies and Gents, it appeara we have found our DP1 lynch target!

But first, we should get a couple more claims, from Heffer_Premium and Penny Trades.

Unvote VTL Heffer_Premium
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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12/29/2012 1:58:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:48:28 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:19:26 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:17:06 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:11:53 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:09:11 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/29/2012 1:07:01 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 12:57:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
@Bossy- even though what you say is true, its fitting that we hold Ishall to his own opinion. So thank you Ishall, for volunteering yourself to claim.

Unvote VTL Ishall

Fixed.

Why are you pressuring me for a claim now? All I wanted is your claim, why are you asking for mine now? How am I acting scummy?

We're just doing what you said.
"Well, since we're all online, why not we get some people to claim?"

I am vanilla.

Character?

Santa's Elves.
THAT'S FVCKING BS!

I'm A vinilla townie, and my claim is way more complicated then that!

COUNTERCLAIM: VINILLA TOWNIE

Let's do this.

Spells "vanilla" incorrectly. VTL Antidoter for an explanation of his crap
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12/29/2012 2:00:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 1:58:26 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Ishall your suggestion was scummy because it punishes active players by forcing them to claim. If we solely got claims from people on Dp1 because they were posting, what would that cause? Players to be inactive and not post so they dont claim.

Inactivity is ALWAYS DETRIMENTAL to town, and your suggested change in SOP will cause that guaranteed. So the premise here is:

1) Getting claims from active players will cause players to not post

Then we'll vote for them afterwards.

2) If players are not posting then they are inactive
3) if players are inactive, this will make the game more difficult for town.

I never said ONLY get claims from those posting, just get claims from them FIRST, then move on to the inactives.


C) Ishalls suggestion will hurt town, and is thus scummy.

Need i say more?

@Abtidoter- maybe you havent checked. But vanilla is not generally considered a CC'able role, why? A vanilla is actually the absence of a role, not a role in itself.

I will say that Ishall's claim is scummy, not because its been cc'd, but rather differs from another vanilla claim, and Ore_Ele and now myself, have come forth and said the charavter claim, santa's elves, vastly differs in specificity from our character(which are much more specific).

Ladies and Gents, it appeara we have found our DP1 lynch target!

But first, we should get a couple more claims, from Heffer_Premium and Penny Trades.

Unvote VTL Heffer_Premium

Sorry, I never took my vote off of Budda. Unvote, VTL Antidoter
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12/29/2012 2:03:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Ishall, your response doesnt actually refute the premise of my FOS, you know that right?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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12/29/2012 2:07:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Also on another note, this is a perfect example of why one should never open up the game by vtl'ing an experienced and active player. They will devour your soul and use your shattered remains as a toothpick to clean out the bits between the teeth
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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12/29/2012 2:09:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 2:07:51 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Also on another note, this is a perfect example of why one should never open up the game by vtl'ing an experienced and active player. They will devour your soul and use your shattered remains as a toothpick to clean out the bits between the teeth

First of all, my soul remains intact, thank you very much, and secondly, my VTLing strategy sort of worked in the School District Mafia. I'm tryijng to play pro-town.
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12/29/2012 2:10:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/29/2012 2:09:26 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 12/29/2012 2:07:51 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Also on another note, this is a perfect example of why one should never open up the game by vtl'ing an experienced and active player. They will devour your soul and use your shattered remains as a toothpick to clean out the bits between the teeth

First of all, my soul remains intact, thank you very much, and secondly, my VTLing strategy sort of worked in the School District Mafia. I'm tryijng to play pro-town.

And hows that working out for you?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion