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BEGINNER(New Player) MAFIA DP1 [Bull_Diesel]

Bull_Diesel
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1/27/2013 1:49:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Mafia:

Welcome to Beginner Mafia (we have added one or two vets to help the game progress)

During the night phase, power roles can perform their actions - for example, the mafia talk secretly with each other and decide who they want to kill, the cop chooses someone to investigate, and so on.
During the day phase, people discuss between them and try to figure out who the mafia is. People may vote to lynch, or execute, other people, and when everyone votes - the person that 50% or more of the town votes, is lynched.
The town wins once all of the mafia are dead.
The mafia wins once they outnumber the town. (For example 2 mafia and 2 townies = mafia won)

The Structure of this game is as follows:
DP1 Discussions and votes to lynch
NP1 Power roles can use their Night Abilities by Sending their Night Actions in to me in your ROLE PM
DP2 Discussion and Votes to Lynch
NP2 Night actions
" ETC

Role Structure:

Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafioso

Town Random
Town Protective
Town Random
Town Power
Town Investigative

Neutral Evil

Neutral Random


This list will typically not be provided but is given in this game to give the new players a place to start their discussion in an attempt to move the game towards its completion.

There are NO CHARACTER NAMES given in this game. This is a beginner game, and I don"t see that as necessary to the first stages of learning mafia.

I will be active in the DP for the first DP or so, but I"d like you to finish the game by yourselves.

Please Read TV"s Guide and feel free to ask any and all questions openly or in your role PM. I will help you as much as I can within reason and I"m sure the vets participating will help you as well.

VTL " Vote to Lynch [VTL Player X]
DP " Day Phase
NP " Night Phase
FOS- Finger of Suspicion (indicates you suspect player X) [FOS Player X]
Bull_Diesel
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1/27/2013 1:55:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Good Luck to everyone. Please let me know what questions you have. There are no dumb questions at this stage of the game.

Town's goal is to discuss who to lynch. You may vote by posting VTL PLAYERNAME and bolding it in your posts.

If you wish to change your vote, type UNVOTE, then VTL NEWPLAYER

Town, you are trying to notice behavioral aspects of peoples' play as well as compare what you know to what other players are saying.

You should start by attempting to get a few players to give information about themselves, often this is done by putting a number of votes on a player and pressuring them with the threat of a lynch.

With 10 players, it will take 6 votes to lynch ( i decided to make it greater than 50%)
Bull_Diesel
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1/27/2013 2:05:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Also, when you want to claim. I don't care if you really want to copy and paste your role from the PM.

I'd recommend that you don't do this, and that you paraphrase your role. Most Moderators in Big-Boy Games WILL NOT allow you to Copy and Paste anything from your PMs. Again, if you feel you need to in this game you're welcome to but the best practice would be to paraphrase.

Mafia:
You should consider doing some research and coming up with a FAKE CLAIM.

Message me if you need any help, but do as much as you can on your own.

You are very unlikely to win if you Claim Godfather :) . There are no Jesters in this game.
Buddamoose
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1/27/2013 2:08:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well i'm town, i bet that means johnnyboy is mafia :P
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1/27/2013 3:22:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 2:50:47 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
Bull Diesel, were the roles randomized using like a random number generator or something, or did you pick who got what role?

I randomized them
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1/27/2013 3:31:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 2:08:26 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Well i'm town, i bet that means johnnyboy is mafia :P

Ya caught me.

VTL Johnny
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
FourTrouble
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1/27/2013 3:37:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm obviously town. Bull wouldn't add another mafia or third-party, it would ruin the balance of the game.

There is your first lesson in mod psychology. Now let's get things going.

VTL Budda

Why? Cause it's the least random vote we got. Budda assumed the roles weren't randomized (weird given a total lack of information regarding Bull's modding). Also, I don't know how any of you noobs play but I think arguing with Budda is a great way for all of you to a) start discussing things, b) get a feel for how things are done, and c) start to reveal your tells (and yes, you want to do this if you are town, scum are the players who want to hide tells).

Now, Budda is gonna get on my case and say something like, "if you want the noobs to argue with an experienced player, why don't you argue with them, huh FT?" - to which I will reply with great confidence: "cause I'm confirmed town and really no reason for noobs to argue with confirmed town and experienced player."

Alright, lets get this fire started.
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1/27/2013 3:39:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 3:31:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 2:08:26 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Well i'm town, i bet that means johnnyboy is mafia :P

Ya caught me.

VTL Johnny

Um, what you hoping to accomplish with this vote?
Bull_Diesel
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1/27/2013 3:42:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 3:31:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 2:08:26 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Well i'm town, i bet that means johnnyboy is mafia :P

Ya caught me.

VTL Johnny

This game is for beginners, those of you that have played before please don't do stuff like this unless you're going to justify your vote on yourself. I told them there are no jesters. Please don't confuse the newbs.
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1/27/2013 3:44:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 3:39:13 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 1/27/2013 3:31:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 2:08:26 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Well i'm town, i bet that means johnnyboy is mafia :P

Ya caught me.

VTL Johnny

Um, what you hoping to accomplish with this vote?

Twas a joke.

unvote
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
Buddamoose
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1/27/2013 4:03:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 3:44:22 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 3:39:13 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 1/27/2013 3:31:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 2:08:26 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Well i'm town, i bet that means johnnyboy is mafia :P

Ya caught me.

VTL Johnny

Um, what you hoping to accomplish with this vote?

Twas a joke.

unvote

Just the same as my initial statement was. No clue why Fourtrouble took it seriously. I thought the ":P" was pretty indicative i was kidding. And ugh, really? Do we really need MORE fourtroubles running around? Lol
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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1/27/2013 4:04:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Yeah FT, not sure what ur going to accomplish with ur vote on me. I'm sure as hell not claiming if thats what ur trying to accomplish.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
FourTrouble
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1/27/2013 4:23:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 4:04:49 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Yeah FT, not sure what ur going to accomplish with ur vote on me. I'm sure as hell not claiming if thats what ur trying to accomplish.

I want noobs to sheep me and argue with you.
lannan13
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1/27/2013 4:33:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Hold up while I caught up...
I win with town.
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1/27/2013 4:55:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
VTL TDK for claim.
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1/27/2013 5:27:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
My concern is that there has to be like one experience person on the mafia as to guide the newbs, if all the experienced players were town, that would make town more OP, wouldn't it?
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1/27/2013 5:37:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 5:27:05 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
My concern is that there has to be like one experience person on the mafia as to guide the newbs, if all the experienced players were town, that would make town more OP, wouldn't it?

It would, however the mod has already stated that all roles were assigned randomly. Getting all caught up on the idea that an experience person must be mafia is an exercise in futility.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
lannan13
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1/27/2013 5:38:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 5:27:05 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
My concern is that there has to be like one experience person on the mafia as to guide the newbs, if all the experienced players were town, that would make town more OP, wouldn't it?

that makes sense... now who would be the most expiranced mafia player? Johny? FT? (I'm not pointin' fingures I'm just namin' expirance people)
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

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"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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1/27/2013 5:43:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 5:38:36 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 5:27:05 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
My concern is that there has to be like one experience person on the mafia as to guide the newbs, if all the experienced players were town, that would make town more OP, wouldn't it?

that makes sense... now who would be the most expiranced mafia player? Johny? FT? (I'm not pointin' fingures I'm just namin' expirance people)

Read my above post.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
lannan13
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1/27/2013 5:49:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 5:43:22 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 5:38:36 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 1/27/2013 5:27:05 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
My concern is that there has to be like one experience person on the mafia as to guide the newbs, if all the experienced players were town, that would make town more OP, wouldn't it?

that makes sense... now who would be the most expiranced mafia player? Johny? FT? (I'm not pointin' fingures I'm just namin' expirance people)

Read my above post.

Sorry didn't see it... Writin' a book report so I'm a little rushed.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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Bull_Diesel
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1/27/2013 6:32:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
ok. I just saw FrackJack hasn't been on in 2+ days,

TUF will be replacing FrackJack, if FrackJack returns, I'll make a decision about what to do with him I might add a character to the mix or maybe i'll add him to a PM with one of the vets so he can see how they are playing .
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1/27/2013 6:53:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Ok not only is the theory that one experienced player must be mafia invalid because of role randomization. Even if Bull wasnt being entirely truthful, you have to figure that Drafterman is also helping out with this game too. Its very possble he is serving as a sort of "mafia advisor" and this makes the theory of one experienced player having to bemafia invalid as well. Saavy?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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1/27/2013 7:04:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/27/2013 6:53:33 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Ok not only is the theory that one experienced player must be mafia invalid because of role randomization. Even if Bull wasnt being entirely truthful, you have to figure that Drafterman is also helping out with this game too. Its very possble he is serving as a sort of "mafia advisor" and this makes the theory of one experienced player having to bemafia invalid as well. Saavy?

How do you know drafter is helping out?