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The Castle in the Sky DP 2

Logic_on_rails
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5/3/2013 2:51:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
A faint sound could be heard from the study, if you were to listen closely. One might once have called it a quill, but the times of quills had long since passed. Slowly, The Editor glanced at the manuscript and began to wonder what the next step was.

In the shadows of the night a mage walked quietly, approaching a figure in the distance. Suddenly, the distant figure turned, drawing upon a ward to shield himself. The first mage laughed.

The Author strode in and took a look at the manuscript before him.
"Are you sure about that?" he asked curiously.
"It's what would happen if it ever came to it." The Author ponderously glazed over the manuscript, reading it a second time.
"No, I think it would go like..."


The first mage smiled wickedly as he sent forth a bolt of light. The distant figure watched it, gathering his wards around him.

And then, at the last moment, the bolt went spiralling towards the heavens...

The Editor collapsed on the floor, his strength failing him; he was in a terrible shock. The Author wrote on obliviously in the next room, working under a rickety desk lamp. The Editor looked at the manuscript, lying beside him. It had fallen as he had. He had to... he had to change it. Agonisingly, he wrote a few more corrections. Yes, it makes sense if I were to die... my own role... yes, a new... And the Author never tampered with his characters abilities. A man of the fourth wall and beyond...

Skepsikyma - The Editor - You watched ponderously as a great literary work 'The Castle in the Sky' was written by your friend. What a great tale it was... but what it could have been! The dastardly fool disagreed with your suggestions for a tragic end. No, the author wrote his tale, and the good prevailed. To be sure, it was a tragic end - many heroes died, often for naught, but the good finally won. Could not the villain have prevailed?

Through chance the tale is now being rewritten of a sorts, by you. You have armed [redacted] with knowledge of all that is to be known at the novel's start. You will also watch the new chapters be printed, and alter them to give [redacted] knowledge. You also know of the author's other tales... and their irrelevance.

You receive all role PMs written by the author. You will receive all night actions by all characters from all tales every night. You win with the Mafia.

And The Psychic's affiliation was clear the following morning:

TA - Psychic - The long war came and went, the heavens delivered justice, but the prophecy has not come to pass, yet. It is said that from the shadows will rise a man, bringing chaos in his wake. He will rise high in the sky, a blot on the world. Many will come to stop him, and many will die. The very foundations of the sky will shake as the final justice is delivered. And then the righteous shall finally prevail, and the evil will be vanquished. So it is told, so it shall be.

You have lived your life in search of truth, and occasionally a flash of knowledge is seen, should links to the higher powers be in place. Recently the higher powers told you about a puzzle. Complex it was, but it was easily solved once a piece was placed. What was the puzzle referring to though?

On NP 2 and 4 you shall find out truths of the world, and learn more of the prophecy. You win with the town.


Note: Needs portal open to work properly

Living Players

1. Buddamoose
2. Flippantbuoyancy
3. TUF
4. Sisyphean_practicality
5. yin.yang
6. TV
7. Lucky_Luciano
8. Drafterman
9. Sui_Generis
10. Bull_Diesel
11. OneElephant
12. Ishall
13. Bossyburrito

With 13 players it take 7 to lynch.
"Tis not in mortals to command success
But we"ll do more, Sempronius, we"ll deserve it
Buddamoose
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5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/3/2013 3:11:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum

Why do you think this?
Sisyphean_practicality
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5/3/2013 3:13:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Flippant, what made you change your read on Sui?

He claimed reader. Considering that the one dead mafia is an "editor," I wonder if mafia are organized along readers/editors/authors etc.

~ F-16
F-16 and Noumena
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5/3/2013 3:23:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 3:13:49 AM, Sisyphean_practicality wrote:
Flippant, what made you change your read on Sui?

He claimed reader. Considering that the one dead mafia is an "editor," I wonder if mafia are organized along readers/editors/authors etc.

~ F-16

I wrote all my reads into our shared message list. My final read from DP1 on Sui is this,

"Sui_Generis: He was originally skeptical of the kings men vs. ground people = scum vs. mafia dichotomy. I think he is a new enough player that, if he were mafia, he would have tried to support that claim. He later states that he is against mass claiming but would do it if other people did it. The logical contradictions are so apparent that I think he is just being a newb. He later defends TA for no reason. Null newb read. "

However, I realize that this reading is almost identical to my one in Rosario where he just flipped mafia. F16, link me to the post where we change our mind on Sui. I still don't have a strong opinion of him, perhaps FT posted that?

-YZ
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5/3/2013 3:24:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Actually F16, Sui is only mentioned 7 times in our combined thread. FT posts things like,

"Sui is playing like scum but I honestly have no idea if it is a result of how bad he is at the game or what. He's making no attempt to scumhunt, 99% of his posts are fluff, the 1% that isn't is just stupid. If a good player said and did the things he is saying and doing, I'd have them down as scum. We're gonna have to figure out if there is an internal logic to his style/positions as the game progresses."

I don't think either of us have a pro-town read on Sui.
Sisyphean_practicality
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5/3/2013 3:32:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
FT says "Bull, Budda, TUF, drafter, Sui, and ishall are not good lynches. I'm quite confident they're all town..."

In context here: http://www.debate.org...

Anyways, VTL Sui for a full claim.

~F-16
F-16 and Noumena
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5/3/2013 3:33:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 2:51:00 AM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
Skepsikyma - The Editor - You...

... You receive all role PMs written by the author. You will receive all night actions by all characters from all tales every night. You win with the Mafia.

Everyone tell me what you think the bolded text means.

-YZ
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5/3/2013 3:35:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 3:32:19 AM, Sisyphean_practicality wrote:
FT says "Bull, Budda, TUF, drafter, Sui, and ishall are not good lynches. I'm quite confident they're all town..."

In context here: http://www.debate.org...

Anyways, VTL Sui for a full claim.

~F-16

Hmmm... I'm not sure, I'll let him answer this one.
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5/3/2013 3:36:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
As for myself, the only person I'm insanely confident about is TUF. Everyone else is shades of grey. I'm going to get some sleep, I'll respond some more tomorrow.
bossyburrito
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5/3/2013 5:14:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Ok, that's an odd role. I'm assuming that by "the author" Logic is referring to himself?

Budda, can you please tell explain how TA cc'd lucky?

Oh, and as a note I'm voteless of my own accord.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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5/3/2013 5:15:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 3:33:47 AM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
At 5/3/2013 2:51:00 AM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
Skepsikyma - The Editor - You...

... You receive all role PMs written by the author. You will receive all night actions by all characters from all tales every night. You win with the Mafia.

Everyone tell me what you think the bolded text means.

-YZ

Maybe it indicates some kinds of alternate realities based in stories? Not sure.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
drafterman
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5/3/2013 5:23:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
This changes the entire game dynamic. Anyone else thinking Neverending Story?

I'll hvae to reevaluate all my reads. If there is a PGO, they should out now.
Buddamoose
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5/3/2013 5:32:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 3:11:42 AM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum

Why do you think this?

TA claimed to be recieving prophechy same as Lucky

Bull has the same role as me

Simple as that
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/3/2013 5:35:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 5:32:50 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:11:42 AM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum

Why do you think this?

TA claimed to be recieving prophechy same as Lucky

They're two different roles... A bodyguard is not a cc on a doc because they both protect people.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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5/3/2013 7:12:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
VTL Sui

Last phase he said this:

"Maybe the PMs are flavored to put your 'side' in a positive light?"

It's now clear that this game isn't about "The Castle in the Sky" story. It's about the creator vs. the creation. Given this, it does seem clear now that the PM's of the fictional characters are written from their own POV, making Sui's statement most likely true, but something he couldn't have reasonably known unless he was mafia.
Buddamoose
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5/3/2013 7:13:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 5:35:25 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 5/3/2013 5:32:50 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:11:42 AM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum

Why do you think this?

TA claimed to be recieving prophechy same as Lucky

They're two different roles... A bodyguard is not a cc on a doc because they both protect people.


Both receive prophecy, how is that different Bossy?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
drafterman
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5/3/2013 7:42:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
yin.yang is town, probably.

"I don't support a bull lynch. I support a ta lynch, but I'd like his claims first."

No reason a mafioso would make such a decision between two Townies so early on.
drafterman
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5/3/2013 7:59:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Sui might possibly be Town as this appears to be fantasy vs. reality and his role PM discusses escaping reality (making him a miller of sorts). Regardless, he needs to full claim.
drafterman
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5/3/2013 8:02:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
DEAD
TheAntidoter - A Psychic - Learn information NP2/NP4 (Oracle)
Skepsikyma - The Editor - Knows roles written by the Author. Receives actions by all characters.

FULL CLAIM
Ishall - King Maegor - Can overturn lynches (Governor)
Bull_Diesel - Steven Rogers - Protect and Roleblock (Jailkeeper)
Buddamoose - Guardsman Yerlein - Protect and Roleblock (Jailkeeper)

ROLE CLAIM

CHARACTER CLAIM
drafterman - Kierhein
Lucky_Luciano - The Prophet
TV - Gared
OneElephant - Brian Newman
TUF - Fahren
Bossyburrito - The Apprentice
Sui_Generis - The Reader

NO CLAIM
2. Flippantbuoyancy
5. Sisyphean_practicality
6. yin.yang
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5/3/2013 8:42:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 7:13:34 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/3/2013 5:35:25 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 5/3/2013 5:32:50 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:11:42 AM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum

Why do you think this?

TA claimed to be recieving prophechy same as Lucky

They're two different roles... A bodyguard is not a cc on a doc because they both protect people.


Both receive prophecy, how is that different Bossy?

Because the ways they do it are different.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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5/3/2013 8:44:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 7:12:13 AM, drafterman wrote:
VTL Sui

Last phase he said this:

"Maybe the PMs are flavored to put your 'side' in a positive light?"

It's now clear that this game isn't about "The Castle in the Sky" story. It's about the creator vs. the creation. Given this, it does seem clear now that the PM's of the fictional characters are written from their own POV, making Sui's statement most likely true, but something he couldn't have reasonably known unless he was mafia.

"Also, a quick note on the stories - not every just man fights for a just cause." would give him good reason to believe that.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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5/3/2013 8:58:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 8:44:08 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 5/3/2013 7:12:13 AM, drafterman wrote:
VTL Sui

Last phase he said this:

"Maybe the PMs are flavored to put your 'side' in a positive light?"

It's now clear that this game isn't about "The Castle in the Sky" story. It's about the creator vs. the creation. Given this, it does seem clear now that the PM's of the fictional characters are written from their own POV, making Sui's statement most likely true, but something he couldn't have reasonably known unless he was mafia.

"Also, a quick note on the stories - not every just man fights for a just cause." would give him good reason to believe that.

His subsequent back-and-forth with Skep about real life people being a part of this further supports my assessment. He clearly has hidden knowledge.
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5/3/2013 9:01:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/3/2013 8:42:52 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 5/3/2013 7:13:34 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/3/2013 5:35:25 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 5/3/2013 5:32:50 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:11:42 AM, FlippantBuoyancy wrote:
At 5/3/2013 3:02:24 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
VTL Lucky

Or Bull_Diesel, jus sayin one of them kids is scum

Why do you think this?

TA claimed to be recieving prophechy same as Lucky

They're two different roles... A bodyguard is not a cc on a doc because they both protect people.


Both receive prophecy, how is that different Bossy?

Because the ways they do it are different.

They both recieve prophecy do they not?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion