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Yraelz
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5/9/2013 12:11:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Winners: Town

1. Sui-Genesis you are Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald. You are a great novelist who utterly despises organized crime. You spend your weekends dancing; you are a vanilla and you win with the town.

2. Khaos you are Charles "Slim" Lindbergh. As a world class pilot and inventor you have no affiliation with the mafia. You are a vanilla and you win with the town.

3. Smithereens you are Duke Ellington. Although you have occasionally dabbled in illegal affairs, you spend the majority of your time composing music. Your Jazz is sensational; you are vanilla and you win with the town.

4. RocketEngineer you are Marcus Garvey. As a great political activist who aspires for equality, you have no time for corrupt dealings with the mafia. You are a vanilla and you win with the town.

5. Pennington you are Norman Rockwell. Your paintings inspire those around you to smile; you have an artistic gift above all else. You are a vanilla and you win with the town.

6. Mustachero you are Clarence Darrow. You are the most renowned defense attorney of your generation. With your substantial connections you may gather information on one player each night. You are a cop and you win with the town.

7. Budda you are Walt Disney. Although mildly racist, you use your spare time to bring cheer to those around you. Your love for joy is infectious; you are a vanilla and you win the town.

8. Khaos(#2) you are Ernest Hemingway. Your works are so great as to have won the nobel prize in literature. As you spend the majority of your time writing, you have no dealings with the mafia. You are a vanilla and you win the town.

9. Daytonanerd you are Eugene Debs. As a radical socialist leader you have been imprisoned on occasion. However, you are not part of the mafia. Your presidential ambitions are doomed to fail; you are a vanilla and you win with the town.

10. Lucky_Luciano you are Charles Best. And you are the best, you have helped discover insulin and thereby expedited medical research worldwide. At night you may venture out and choose to check on one person (potentially saving them from death). You are the doctor, and you win with the town.

11. RocketEngineer (#2)you are Joan Crawford and damn you are hawt. A debutante film star, you have captivated the American audience with your silence. You are a vanilla and you win with the town.

Loss: The Mafia

1. TDK you are Stefano Magaddino. Known as "The Undertaker", your exploits include escaping from bombs, hand grenades, and the police. You are a henchman, and you win with the mafia.

2. TUF you are Antonio Lombardo. Known as "The Scourge", you excel at brokering deals within the mafia. You are a henchman, and you win with the mafia.

3. Gondun you are Charles "Lucky" Luciano. As the father of the five original mafia families, you control a massive amount of intelligence. Each night you may consult your intelligence, about one player, to determine their role. You are a mafia role cop; you win with the mafia.

4. Lannan you are Jack "Legs" Diamond. Due to for your slippery nature, you are great asset to organized crime. You are a henchman, and you win the mafia.

Play by play and special awards will be up soon.
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5/9/2013 12:14:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I had fun!
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5/9/2013 12:23:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
This was my first game and Im sorry if I played weird and stuff. I told yall I was town. Good jobs guys and thanks.
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5/9/2013 12:24:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:23:49 PM, Pennington wrote:
This was my first game and Im sorry if I played weird and stuff. I told yall I was town. Good jobs guys and thanks.

Yep, and what's better is that this gets better with 14.2!
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5/9/2013 12:27:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:24:52 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/9/2013 12:23:49 PM, Pennington wrote:
This was my first game and Im sorry if I played weird and stuff. I told yall I was town. Good jobs guys and thanks.

Yep, and what's better is that this gets better with 14.2!

14.2 is a re-cap? or no?
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5/9/2013 12:43:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Game Highlights / Play by Play

DP1:
1. Mod soft claimed Lucky to semi balance the 4 mafia vs. 11 town after forgetting to send him a role PM.
2. Buddamoose claims to be Walt Disney (funniest claim ever) and proceeds to lead a semi-drunken lynch against the Town's Doctor. It failed, but was epic.
3. TUF literally bandwagons everything he can see. If there is a vote on it he never failed to switch his vote.
4. RocketEngineer, the voice of reason in DP1, correctly calls all four instances of TUF bandwagoning. His attempted lynch of TUF gets no votes.
5. Khaos was eventually lynched, he was innocent.

NP1:
1. Lucky (Charles Best) protects self.
2. Mafia kills Sui (Zelda Fitzgerald).
3. Mustachero (Clarence Darrow) investigates Lucky, returns an innocent.
4. Gondun (Charles Luciano) investigates Budda, returns vanilla.

DP2:
1. TDK gives the worst possible explanation for why Sui must have been lynched and attempts to kill Budda.
2. Rocket realizes what's up and attempts to lead lynches against TDK and TUF.
3. Meanwhile TUF and Lannan bandwagon every wagon they can find.
4. The mod considers switching TUF and Lannan to a third party with the win condition, "bandwagon everything and you win." Ultimately he decides against it.
5. TUF claims his character, as mafia.
6. TDK busses him like a boss.
7. The town lynches TUF, he was guilty.

NP2:
1. Rocket is murdered out TUF/Lannan spite.
2. Gondun role cop's Mustachero, returns Cop.
3. Lucky protects Budda.
4. Mustachero cops Daytona, returns innocent.

DP3:
1. Mustachero figures out that Lannan bussed TUF, attempts to lead a lynch.
2. Rocket, having subbed back in (bastard mod), realizes that Gondun is the last mafia and goes after him. This lynch also fails.
3. A mere five posts after being accused of bussing, Lannan decides to Bus TDK. No big deal.
4. In response to pressure from Lannan, TDK claims someone from the wrong time period. =)
5. While bussing the sh!t out of TDK, Lannan makes sure to switch his vote to Khaos, then Mustachero, then Gondun, to ensure that he gets a hit on each wagon. He then attempts to switch his vote back to TDK to ensure a hammer, but miscounted the votes.
6. TDK, in frustration, hammers himself and rather overtly hints that Lannan is his team mate.

NP3:
1. Mafia kills Mustachero (the cop).
2. Lucky protect Budda.
3. Gondun role copped someone (probably Lucky).

DP4:
1. The remaining two mafia successfully lead a mislynch against Daytonanerd (Eugene Debs).
2. I forgot to write notes for the DP, it wasn't very eventful...

NP4:
1. The mafia attempted to kill Budda.
2. Lucky protect him. Thereby confirming Budda.
3. Gondun role copped random people to make sure I hadn't inserted some secret role.

DP5:
1. Rocket and Khaos attempt to lead a lynch against Lannan. This almost works out but Lucky does the math and decides to no lynch at L-1.
2. The mafia breath a sigh of relief.

NP5:
1. Lucky protect pennington, because he believes pennington to be innocent.
2. The mafia kills Lucky.

DP6:
1. Budda lays out the link between Lannan and Gondun. Smith agrees.
2. Lannan uses this opportunity to bus all the things, and successfully prompts a lynch of Gondun.
3. Pennington returns from haitus to offer about no analysis.
4. Gondun dies, he was guilty. .

NP6:
1. Lannan, now alone, kills Budda. Unfortunately the town already heard Budda's argument.

DP7:
1. Lannan, alone, has no one to Bus and cries silently into the mafia PM.
2. Khaos, Penn, and Rocket lynch Lannan almost immediately.
3. Well played town.

Secret Awards:
1. Best Reads All Game: Rocket. For correctly determining all four mafia the earliest and maintaining those reads for the entirety of the game. He also correctly identified multiple TUF/Lannan bandwagons, and all of Lannan's busses. Nice job!
Runner Up: Khaos - Who also determined mafia with a high accuracy.

2. Fulfilled Secret Win Condition: Lannan. I believe you missed no opportunity to bandwagon in this game. You also successfully bussed all three of your team mates.
Runner Up: TUF - You died too early, but your DP1 bandwagons were epic.

3. Most Entertaining to Watch: Budda. For the DP1 attempted doctor lynch and his role claim.
Runner Up: Penn - For the most random posts at the worst times. It's a miracle you did not get policy lynched.

4. Best Ringer: Tie between Budda & Lucky. Budda made a solid come back in analysis in the final couple of DPs, and his analysis on correlations between Gondun and Lannan was spot on. Lucky correctly predicted that the mafia would attempt to kill Budda early on. Via that prediction and mod psyche he was capable of demonstrating why himself and Budda were confirmed town. The analysis from both players (excluding DP1) served a solid example for newer players.
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5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?
2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?
3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?
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5/9/2013 12:48:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM, Yraelz wrote:
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?
2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?
3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?

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5/9/2013 12:52:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM, Yraelz wrote:
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?

yes
2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?
yah too town sited, I think next game you need a paranoid gun owner :)

3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?
Hell Yah
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5/9/2013 12:53:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:48:16 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM, Yraelz wrote:
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?
2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?
3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?

+1000000000000000 @3

Remember, 14.2 is role madness, make sure to bring the madness.
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5/9/2013 1:05:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Naturally, it would be role madness.

If I get enough feedback from people, who would like it, I will set up a sign-up sheet.
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5/9/2013 2:15:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well done everyone, very impressive Rocket. You have a solid intuition ;)

Not to sound unhumble but I understand the suspicions upon me that were placed were mostly due to me being so hard to ready scum-meta is so similiar to my town meta its hard to differentiate.

@Yraelz- there was no link between Gondun and Lannan save for Lannan voting Gondun for a claim DP3. The only reason why the flowchart said lynch Lannan if Gondun flipped mafia was because Lannan and Pennington(Lannan being the scummiest) were the only ones who could've potentially been scum via PoE.

The true link in that flowchart was Gondun and Rocket. One or the other was mafia, not both, simple as that.
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5/9/2013 2:25:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM, Yraelz wrote:
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?
Yes. I learned quite a bit, largely through my mistakes.

2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?
I don't know what that means.
I don't understand why you said anything other than, "I did forget, and the problem has been addressed".
3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?
Yes. Also, if you do, isn't it supposed to be the same players through the entire series? (perhaps with replacing only those that were replaced)
My work here is, finally, done.
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5/9/2013 2:31:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:43:38 PM, Yraelz wrote:
1. Best Reads All Game: Rocket.
Runner Up: Khaos - Who also determined mafia with a high accuracy.

I think I have to disagree with this.
Leading the charge against the doctor, once Budda dropped out, was niave.
Furthermore, I was suspect of Budda, but I supposed I had the sense to say my piece and let it be (progress, I suppose).

These were obvious bad calls to everyone but me.
Plus, the only scum I voted for was Lannan. My reads were 1/4 on scum, and 1/1 on town.

By the way, why did mafia wait so long to kill Budda? Why wouldn't they have gone after him after TUF was lynched?
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5/9/2013 3:12:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM, Yraelz wrote:
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?

Yes. I really enjoyed the way most of the newbs played, it's promising.

2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?

Unintentional mod confirmation is always bad.

3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?

Yes.
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5/9/2013 5:26:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
This was so fun, thanks for letting me play! I think playing mafia will be my new hobby.

So now do all us noobs still count as beginners now that we've finished this game? I think there are a lot of things I could have done better in this game, but it was still really fun. Does anyone have advice for me, or anything that I could use to help me in future games?
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5/9/2013 5:28:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 12:46:01 PM, Yraelz wrote:
A couple pieces of feedback that I would enjoy.
1. Was this a suitable beginners game? Do people feel like they learned a bit?
2. With a 11 vs. 4 split was the soft claim via my statement, 'role PMs are over rated' too town sided?
3. Would you guys like me to mod 14.2?

1. I learned a lot thankyou!
2. I didn't understand.
3. What's 14.2? Sure, you were a great mod!

(sorry I don't know how people respond to text in breaks)
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5/13/2013 3:20:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/13/2013 3:02:44 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/13/2013 12:36:04 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
14.2 where?
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5/13/2013 3:37:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/13/2013 3:20:06 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/13/2013 3:02:44 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/13/2013 12:36:04 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
14.2 where?
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5/13/2013 3:41:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/13/2013 3:37:35 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/13/2013 3:20:06 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/13/2013 3:02:44 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/13/2013 12:36:04 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
14.2 where?
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5/13/2013 3:46:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/13/2013 3:41:56 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 5/13/2013 3:37:35 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/13/2013 3:20:06 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 5/13/2013 3:02:44 PM, TUF wrote:
At 5/13/2013 12:36:04 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
14.2 where?
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5/13/2013 8:48:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Jeez you guys are demanding. I'll post sign-ups tonight sometime. I need to brainstorm a theme, conducive to role-mania, for a bit longer. =P
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5/13/2013 8:49:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Just to be clear about your normal 14.2 style. I'm doing roles to my hearts content but still no flavors?

I'm doing a theme regardless of what you all say.