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The Castle in the Sky DP 4

Logic_on_rails
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5/14/2013 3:54:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
The voices of the commons could be heard all over the Kingdom. The hated portal had been closed, and the vicious tyrant King Maegor had been killed, and one had died in the night under the new regime of Prince Doran. What could be better?

There was jubiliation among strangers at the passing of the Blight and the Tyrant, falling hand in hand under a resounding cry to close that portal. The heavens look startlingly clear now - they are not marred by a blot on the sky.

Nevertheless, insidious threats exist, and they have not been eradicated. The good people of the world must not falter. Evil exists, and in spite of it's weakening by the portal's closing it remains with us.

And of King Maegor, it might be said that he achieved a possibility for a posthumous justice:

Drafterman (formerly Ishall) - King Maegor - The long war came and went, the popular rebellion failing in the end, but not before they had killed your father (the former king) in a bloody battle. You ascended to the throne, and swore to prevent any future rebellion. To this end you took most of the world's magicians and had them live with royalty in The Castle in the Sky. You made sure to track down magicians born on the ground and bring them into your fold. Those who don't accept your offer get mercilessly hunted down. Peace has reigned for years thanks to your actions.

However, like your father, your own magical abilities are weak. You strengthen your power by keeping a magical portal open. The closer you are to the portal in the sky the more it supports your power. The portal has strengthened your hold on power significantly over the criminals on the surface. You swear to keep it open, and use it's powers for justice.

1 shot ability to change a lynch to a no lynch, so long as you aren't supporting the lynch itself (voting in favour of) . While you are alive the portal will be constantly open. You win with the town. (on NP 2 his win condition changed to 'survivor until the portal is closed')

Note: With King Maegor I made an exception and decided that Maegor can win with the town after his death if the portal is closed. The exception is made for no other and is not a modnote.

Living Players

1. Buddamoose
2. Sui (replaces Flippantbuoyancy)
3. TUF (replaces TV)
4. Sisyphean_practicality
5. yin.yang
6. Lucky_Luciano
7. Bull_Diesel
8. OneElephant
9. Bossyburrito

With 9 players it take 5 to lynch.

A final note

I'd prefer it if discussion of last DP's confusion was dropped. I've compensated those who have been hurt by the last DP's incident adequately. Indeed, one might have said that I did nothing, for it could well have been... The incident is hereafter a matter for the endgame, except for speculation of what compensation may have been given.
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But we"ll do more, Sempronius, we"ll deserve it
Lucky_Luciano
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5/14/2013 6:52:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:54:38 AM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
You win with the town. (on NP 2 his win condition changed to 'survivor until the portal is closed')

Note: With King Maegor I made an exception and decided that Maegor can win with the town after his death if the portal is closed. The exception is made for no other and is not a modnote.

To clarify, everyone I recruited, as well as myself, was a survivor until the portal was closed. After the portal was closed, we win with the town, which is why it says Drafter wins with the town now despite him flipping guilty yesterday.

The note was provided because normally when a survivor dies, they lose the game. Well for the portal to close, Drafter had to die, so I asked Logic if Drafter would convert to a townie post-mortem assuming the portal was closed the phase after his death. Otherwise it would have been unfair to the King if he were recruited.

The affiliation confirmation provided to F-16 was that Logic slipped and said we both convert to town when the portal closes, confirming that I was not mafia and would not continue to be third party.

On a side note, no night kill. Protection targets?
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5/14/2013 6:57:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 6:52:41 AM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:


On a side note, no night kill. Protection targets?

Not on my part, I lost my ability with the portals closing
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5/14/2013 7:51:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:59:09 AM, Sisyphean_practicality wrote:
Drafter's role provides the answers about the PM between the three of us.

~ F-16

"Those who don't accept your offer get mercilessly hunted down."?
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5/14/2013 7:53:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I am hoping the portal being closed means nobody has any working night actions now. I figured by voting to keep it closed it would impair the mafia equally.
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5/14/2013 7:54:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 7:53:25 AM, TUF wrote:
I am hoping the portal being closed means nobody has any working night actions now. I figured by voting to keep it closed it would impair the mafia equally.

This is untrue, B_D's night action is not contingent upon the portal being open, and it seems OneE's is not either reading back on it
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 8:06:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 7:54:27 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:53:25 AM, TUF wrote:
I am hoping the portal being closed means nobody has any working night actions now. I figured by voting to keep it closed it would impair the mafia equally.

This is untrue, B_D's night action is not contingent upon the portal being open, and it seems OneE's is not either reading back on it

Did they specifically say that?
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Buddamoose
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5/14/2013 8:14:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 8:06:41 AM, TUF wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:54:27 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:53:25 AM, TUF wrote:
I am hoping the portal being closed means nobody has any working night actions now. I figured by voting to keep it closed it would impair the mafia equally.

This is untrue, B_D's night action is not contingent upon the portal being open, and it seems OneE's is not either reading back on it

Did they specifically say that?

I think B_D did, OneE hinted at it, but never outright stated whether he had a night action. Just that his role PM didnt mention the portal
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 8:16:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 8:14:12 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 8:06:41 AM, TUF wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:54:27 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:53:25 AM, TUF wrote:
I am hoping the portal being closed means nobody has any working night actions now. I figured by voting to keep it closed it would impair the mafia equally.

This is untrue, B_D's night action is not contingent upon the portal being open, and it seems OneE's is not either reading back on it

Did they specifically say that?

I think B_D did, OneE hinted at it, but never outright stated whether he had a night action. Just that his role PM didnt mention the portal

Aren't they the only unconfirmed players N E way?
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5/14/2013 8:19:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 8:16:39 AM, TUF wrote:
At 5/14/2013 8:14:12 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 8:06:41 AM, TUF wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:54:27 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 7:53:25 AM, TUF wrote:
I am hoping the portal being closed means nobody has any working night actions now. I figured by voting to keep it closed it would impair the mafia equally.

This is untrue, B_D's night action is not contingent upon the portal being open, and it seems OneE's is not either reading back on it

Did they specifically say that?

I think B_D did, OneE hinted at it, but never outright stated whether he had a night action. Just that his role PM didnt mention the portal

Aren't they the only unconfirmed players N E way?

No, Bull is confirmed through Sui_Generis

Unconfirmed players are

- Bossy
- Yin
- OneE
- Myself

So in other words, this game is in the bag being that its likely 2-3 mafia are located within the above four players.

If you take the Scrnshots as confirmation from last DP, then its likely 2-3 mafia within

- Bossy
- OneE
- Myself
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 8:20:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
and continuing along those lines, VTL Bossy
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
Buddamoose
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5/14/2013 8:23:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
- Flip confirmed through Skeps death
- TuF confirmed through lynch and subsequent revive
- Sys and Lucky confirmed through Drafter
- Bull confirmed through Sui
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 10:17:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 10:17:19 AM, TUF wrote:
Actually unvote.

Ya?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 10:19:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 10:17:54 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 10:17:19 AM, TUF wrote:
Actually unvote.

Ya?

I want to wait for some other input from players. Also with likely 3 mafia left, A hammer could happen really easily.
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Buddamoose
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5/14/2013 10:22:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 10:19:25 AM, TUF wrote:
At 5/14/2013 10:17:54 AM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/14/2013 10:17:19 AM, TUF wrote:
Actually unvote.

Ya?

I want to wait for some other input from players. Also with likely 3 mafia left, A hammer could happen really easily.

If mafia were to "hammer" bossy, then that means Yin, OneE, and I are mafia. Therefore making a mafia hammer impossible due to me already voting for him. But okeh i guess :/
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 11:14:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Hmm. I would like to lynch OneE based on how quickly he jumped on our bandwagon last DP, but first I'd like Sui to tell us who Flippant redirected last day phase. The fact is Budda claimed to roleblock someone who wasn't roleblocked.

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5/14/2013 1:10:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Sui, who did flip redirect NP2?
Bull, who did you jail last night?
1E, did you receive any info last night?
Bossy, did you rolecop anyone?

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5/14/2013 2:47:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I rolecopped OneE.

His claim:
"There's just too much flavor text to paraphrase. Basically the PM is Brian Newman describing a night where he wakes up and is walking to the washroom. There's the phrase "the darkness changes" and Logic proceeds to describe a scene where a bunch of unknown intruders invade the house, knock my family out rape my sister. Brian Newman feels really useless about the entire thing.

Logic then writes:

If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed. You win with the town."

What Logic sent me:
If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed.

So he wasn't lying about that part at least.

Vote To Lynch Budda
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

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5/14/2013 2:59:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 2:47:21 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I rolecopped OneE.

His claim:
"There's just too much flavor text to paraphrase. Basically the PM is Brian Newman describing a night where he wakes up and is walking to the washroom. There's the phrase "the darkness changes" and Logic proceeds to describe a scene where a bunch of unknown intruders invade the house, knock my family out rape my sister. Brian Newman feels really useless about the entire thing.

Logic then writes:

If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed. You win with the town."


What Logic sent me:
If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed.


So he wasn't lying about that part at least.

Vote To Lynch Budda

Didn't every other magical person lose their power when the portal closed?
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"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014
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5/14/2013 3:10:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 2:59:26 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 5/14/2013 2:47:21 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I rolecopped OneE.

His claim:
"There's just too much flavor text to paraphrase. Basically the PM is Brian Newman describing a night where he wakes up and is walking to the washroom. There's the phrase "the darkness changes" and Logic proceeds to describe a scene where a bunch of unknown intruders invade the house, knock my family out rape my sister. Brian Newman feels really useless about the entire thing.

Logic then writes:

If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed. You win with the town."


What Logic sent me:
If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed.


So he wasn't lying about that part at least.

Vote To Lynch Budda

Didn't every other magical person lose their power when the portal closed?

Yeah, I was a bit surprised when my action went through. I looked back at my role PM and it says that I need the portal to gain powers, not use them.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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5/14/2013 3:12:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/28/2013 8:19:22 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
My role PM makes no mention of the king or anything from the OP. My role depends on a portal being open, as does the roles of others. I have a feeling that this game is going to be based on the portal and the consequences of keeping it open. Since so many people rely on the portal, it probably isn't a good idea to destroy it early on.


This is Bossy in DP-, CAUGHT IN A LIE

There is no way bossy could have role-copped anyone. The portal was closed before night actions went through, as in my PM Logic stated that my night action was not available due to the portals closing.

People need to VTL Bossy right now up in this biz-nitch
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 3:14:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:10:40 PM, bossyburrito wrote:

Yeah, I was a bit surprised when my action went through. I looked back at my role PM and it says that I need the portal to gain powers, not use them.

So you are trying to say Learning a role used magic, but the role itself didnt use magic? Thats entirely believable...
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 3:18:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:10:40 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 5/14/2013 2:59:26 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 5/14/2013 2:47:21 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I rolecopped OneE.

His claim:
"There's just too much flavor text to paraphrase. Basically the PM is Brian Newman describing a night where he wakes up and is walking to the washroom. There's the phrase "the darkness changes" and Logic proceeds to describe a scene where a bunch of unknown intruders invade the house, knock my family out rape my sister. Brian Newman feels really useless about the entire thing.

Logic then writes:

If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed. You win with the town."


What Logic sent me:
If you hear anything from the police about the above event, you'll be informed.


So he wasn't lying about that part at least.

Vote To Lynch Budda

Didn't every other magical person lose their power when the portal closed?

Yeah, I was a bit surprised when my action went through. I looked back at my role PM and it says that I need the portal to gain powers, not use them.

Uses magic to learn magical spells. Does not use magic to use magical spells. VTL Bossy.
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"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014
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5/14/2013 3:21:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:18:46 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:

Uses magic to learn magical spells. Does not use magic to use magical spells. VTL Bossy.

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"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/14/2013 3:22:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
From a balancing perspective, this makes perfect sense. My role isn't useful until late in the game and the portal was intended to be closed on a late day phase. Why would Logic render my role basically a vanilla for the whole game?
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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5/14/2013 3:23:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:22:15 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
From a balancing perspective, this makes perfect sense. My role isn't useful until late in the game and the portal was intended to be closed on a late day phase. Why would Logic render my role basically a vanilla for the whole game?

You do realize all that BS I said DP1 about something terrible happening when the portal remains open was a dramatization of the fact that my mason recruits died if I died, right? It was a fvcking soft claim, not an actual event.
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"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014
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5/14/2013 3:25:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:22:15 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
From a balancing perspective, this makes perfect sense. My role isn't useful until late in the game and the portal was intended to be closed on a late day phase. Why would Logic render my role basically a vanilla for the whole game?

You just gave a reason why your role shouldnt exist in the first place, and therefore is unlikely to be in the game, and thus just points to it being a fake-claim, to capitalize upon skep's role and the knowledge of all role PM's mafia already have. You know that right?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion