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6/29/2013 7:19:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Timothy walked into a bar-

And was knocked out.... LOL

No, in all seriousness though,

Timothh walked into the bar. It was bustling, around noontime, and a torrent of noise from all the people eating and drinking. He was new to the town, and in need of a place to stay. He walked up to the bartender and asked,

"Do you serve crabs here?"

The bartender responded with, "yes, we serve everyone here, even you."

LOLOL

ok enough with that...

"What'll you have stranger?" The bartender asked Timothy, as he walked up to the oaken counter.

"I'll have a draft, Pabst preferably, and I also need to know where a man can find a bed to sleep in around here?"

The bartender quickly grabbed a glass and poured the golden Pabst into the frosted glass. He placed it next to Timothy,

"Well there's your beer, as for the place to rest, you could try Westers boarding house down the road. She's always got extra rooms."

"Thanks uhh-"

"Eugene's the name," the bartender spoke, "and that over there, is my brother Arnold." Pointing over to a man shuffling a deck of cards at a booth in the corner of the bar. "We own this here fine establishment."

Timothy looked over just as Arnold looked up. Their eyes met, and Arnold smiled, waving Timothy over to the booth. Timothy meandered his way through the crowd of people, and over to the booth, sitting down.

"Well hey stranger! Pleased to meet you! De'Laroys' the name, and Carribean Poker is the game." Arnold spoke as he held his hand out. Timothy took it, and they both shook hands.

"Its nice to meet you too Arnold. Carribean Poker? I enjoy poker myself, not too bad, plenty of experience playing while off-duty in 'Nam."

"Oh you play eh?" Arnold's eyes twinkled, "perhaps you'd care to play a game now? Say we spice things up with a friendly wager?"

Timothy laughed, "that actually sounds fun. Go ahead and shuffle, I'll
cut, you deal. Say 2 dollars a game?"

"Two dollars a game?! What do I look like? The Queen of England? Make it 50 cents a game bet-in."

"Deal."

Arnold skillfully shuffled the cards, placing them in front of Timothy, who then cut the deck in half. Arnold then dealt out five cards to them both face down.

"So the deal with this is, you get five cards, no redraws. We bet until a call. Best hand wins." Arnold spoke after dealing, "you get first bet."

Timothy looked at his cards, and saw that he had been dealt a strong hand. Two pair, Jacks and two's. He immediately placed a 50 cent bet down.. They played for a few hours, Timothy slowly and steadily losing money to De'Laroy.

Finally after a new hand had been dealt, Timothy looked down at his cards, and flipped inside. It was a straight, ace high! One of the strongest hands in poker. He immediately put twenty dollars down on the table. Arnold laughed,

"Well you just made it obvious you have a good hand. Good thing I have one as well." He placed fourty dollars down on the table.

Timothy then raised him again, putting the pot at well over 150 dollars. De'Laroy whistled,

"Oh boy, somebody really likes their hand. Seriously should consider folding here, it would be the smart thing to do. But my pappy always said I was dumb as rock, so."

De'Laroy pulled out a stack of cash from his pockets, and slammed it onto the table,

"Two thousand dollar raise." Timothy's eyes widened, how good of a hand could he possibly have to bet that much!

"Tell me now Timothy, I want to know. It seems like you have a choice here, and those choices would be to fold em', hold em' or just walk away knowing you've been beat, cause trust me boy, you've been beat so bad, they're gonna give you a mule and 50 acres of land as reparations."

He then began speaking in a sing-song voice,

"Know when to hold em'
Know when to fold em'
Know when to walk away'"

Timothy smiled, and looked at Arnold.

"I'll raise, 10,000 dollars. I have you beat, not you have me. So what are you gonna do De'Laroy?"

"I'll raise another grand."

So whats it gonna be Shumer?

"I'll call."

Both men flipped their hands. Timothy's stomach dropped, De'Laroy had a flush! He had lost, and to make it worse, he had just lost most of what he had saved up.

De'Laroy was laughing, "pay up Timmy, bets a bet, and the wager must be honored."

Timothy reached inside his backpack, and pulled out a large wad of cash. He slowly counted out the money he owed, and handed it over.

"It was fun Arnold, but I think I'll walk away now, I need to go to this Wester's Boarding house, and get a room before its too late to for the day."

"Oh well buddy, I guess I'll be seeing you around then. Lets do this again sometime!"

"Sure, and i'll be sure to lose most of my money to you again."

Arnold burst out in uproarious laughter again, as Timothy walked out of the bar...

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A) No Algorithm claiming of any kind. As in making a code with a key for a claim as part of a mass-claim or any other kind of claim of this way.

B) Day Phases will last 72 hours from the point the OP is posted. Night Phases will last 24 hours.

Living Players

At 6/24/2013 2:11:24 PM, Noumena wrote:
1. TUF
2. USM
3. Drafter
4. Skepsikyma
5. Khaos_Mage
6. TheAntidoter
7. BossyBurrito
8. Frackjack
9. RocketEngineer
10. HCP
11. Noumena
12.jordan
13. Daytonanerd
14. Tulle
15. RoyalPaladin

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1. Trekie
2. lannan13
3. Flippant
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With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch! Good Luck to all!
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6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?
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6/29/2013 7:51:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

FOS rocket for questioning votes during Rvs.

VTL Rocket for claim.
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6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF
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6/29/2013 7:55:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


It's RVS. RANDOM VOTE STAGE. We do not have leads to go off of.
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6/29/2013 8:00:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


First off, I never asked for a role claim, just a claim. Why would you jump to the conclusion that I am talking about a role claim random than a character claim? Though claim is open to interpretation, and Tulle can give as much as she wants.

But, okay you've convinced me. unvote, VTL rocket for a claim.
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6/29/2013 8:03:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

*waits for Drafter to tear this apart, like I would be doing if not modding :P"
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"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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6/29/2013 8:08:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:03:57 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

*waits for Drafter to tear this apart, like I would be doing if not modding :P"

I Welcome drafter tearing this apart :)
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6/29/2013 8:15:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:00:07 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


First off, I never asked for a role claim, just a claim. Why would you jump to the conclusion that I am talking about a role claim random than a character claim? Though claim is open to interpretation, and Tulle can give as much as she wants.

But, okay you've convinced me. unvote, VTL rocket for a claim.

I am just wondering how you think a claim from Tulle will help, that's all.
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6/29/2013 8:17:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:15:05 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 8:00:07 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


First off, I never asked for a role claim, just a claim. Why would you jump to the conclusion that I am talking about a role claim random than a character claim? Though claim is open to interpretation, and Tulle can give as much as she wants.

But, okay you've convinced me. unvote, VTL rocket for a claim.

I am just wondering how you think a claim from Tulle will help, that's all.

We need something to analyze if Tulle acts scummy, but we don't have to worry Becuase we have a much better target now.
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6/29/2013 8:19:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 7:55:12 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


It's RVS. RANDOM VOTE STAGE. We do not have leads to go off of.

How does RVS even help?

So it's okay to just randomly make people claim because you are too lazy to make leads? I don't understand.
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6/29/2013 8:23:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:15:05 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 8:00:07 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


First off, I never asked for a role claim, just a claim. Why would you jump to the conclusion that I am talking about a role claim random than a character claim? Though claim is open to interpretation, and Tulle can give as much as she wants.

But, okay you've convinced me. unvote, VTL rocket for a claim.

I am just wondering how you think a claim from Tulle will help, that's all.

1. Tulle's reaction to my vote, could help me in getting response's, behavior, and attitude, that I can use to help me determine her affiliation.

2. It reveals scum. For example you just jumped in all angry that I voted Tulle, giving me an even better lead in you.

3. How do you suggest starting off a game? Why do you think scum would try to out the role of a townie, so obviously? Why do you not consider the possibility that Tulle could be scum and I could potentially catch her in a scum slip?
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6/29/2013 8:24:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:19:12 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:55:12 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:52:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:36:03 PM, TUF wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:30:35 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
At 6/29/2013 7:23:23 PM, TUF wrote:
VTL Tulle for a claim.

Why Tulle?

Better question; why not tulle?

Without a reason to believe she is mafia, you are only unnecessarily making a player claim. What if she has a powerful town role?

FOS TUF


It's RVS. RANDOM VOTE STAGE. We do not have leads to go off of.

How does RVS even help?

It generates discussion and reads, which has helped out you.

So it's okay to just randomly make people claim because you are too lazy to make leads? I don't understand.

No, you must get people to agree to it, and a name claim would suffice, but if they were unco-operative, then further pressure would be applied.
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6/29/2013 8:36:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Okay I get it now I guess. I don't really know how to participate at this point, though because you've already openly revealed the tactic.

Please unvote me.
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6/29/2013 8:40:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:36:23 PM, RocketEngineer wrote:
Okay I get it now I guess. I don't really know how to participate at this point, though because you've already openly revealed the tactic.

Please unvote me.

I'll unvote once you've claimed.
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6/29/2013 8:52:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:47:24 PM, TUF wrote:
On a side note: Where the fvck is everybody!?!?!

I make it less lonely. I'm Paul Bess.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

http://i.imgur.com...
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6/29/2013 8:57:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I predict that rocket and tulle are scum buddies. Rocket should at least be familiar with the concept of RVS. The way he jumped makes me think he is mafia with tulle.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

http://i.imgur.com...
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6/29/2013 9:03:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I Think keeping track of characters, and and happenings in the OP will be important given how strong their inclusion was in FEAR mafia. They usually effect the game, and are symbolic of actions made in the game.

Characters mentioned in the OP of the sign ups thread:

Cloaked man- Doesn't do much but stare, dis-appear, and re-appear at his convenience.

Timothy- Apparently a young child (Events here must take place before the events in the OP of DP1).

Timothy's Father- Seems caring about his son.

Characters mentioned in the OP of DP1.

Timothy- Protagonist
Mentions 'nam, meaning he is a war vet. is foolhardy and gives up 10,000 dollars (most of is life savings) losing a bet in a card game.

Arnold- Bartender's brother (last name De'Laroys?)
Eugene- Bartender
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6/29/2013 9:05:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Character claims:

Frack- Paul Bess

No claims:

TUF
USM
Drafter
Skepsikyma
Khaos_Mage
TheAntidoter
BossyBurrito
Frackjack
RocketEngineer
HCP
Noumena
Jordan
Daytonanerd
Tulle
RoyalPaladin
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6/29/2013 9:07:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 9:03:44 PM, TUF wrote:
I Think keeping track of characters, and and happenings in the OP will be important given how strong their inclusion was in FEAR mafia. They usually effect the game, and are symbolic of actions made in the game.

Characters mentioned in the OP of the sign ups thread:

Cloaked man- Doesn't do much but stare, dis-appear, and re-appear at his convenience.

Timothy- Apparently a young child (Events here must take place before the events in the OP of DP1).

Timothy's Father- Seems caring about his son.


Characters mentioned in the OP of DP1.

Timothy- Protagonist
Mentions 'nam, meaning he is a war vet. is foolhardy and gives up 10,000 dollars (most of is life savings) losing a bet in a card game.

Arnold- Bartender's brother (last name De'Laroys?)
Eugene- Bartender

There must be more vets. My PM mentions the VA.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

http://i.imgur.com...
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6/29/2013 9:16:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 8:57:03 PM, FrackJack wrote:
I predict that rocket and tulle are scum buddies. Rocket should at least be familiar with the concept of RVS. The way he jumped makes me think he is mafia with tulle.

Rocket has been out of mafia for a while, is still a newb, and is still learning as is evidenced by his thread asking for tips. Many experienced players still balk at RVS, especially ones that take big hiatuses.

The problem is, your reasoning introduces the paradox of Rocket being smart enough to understand RVS but dumb enough to defend his scum buddy so hard.

I wanted to vote TUF, since he knows better than to confuse newb behavior with scum behavior, but you took the FOS lead by just outright claiming both are scum.

Full claim, please.

VTL Frack
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6/29/2013 9:33:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm sorry for not posting here. Did not notice this one started, lol. Anyways, unfortunately, I must go to sleep. I can't be on until probably around 12 to 2 ET. I am traveling back from Pittsburgh tomorrow morning.
#FeeltheFreezerBern
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6/29/2013 9:36:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 9:16:58 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/29/2013 8:57:03 PM, FrackJack wrote:
I predict that rocket and tulle are scum buddies. Rocket should at least be familiar with the concept of RVS. The way he jumped makes me think he is mafia with tulle.

Rocket has been out of mafia for a while, is still a newb, and is still learning as is evidenced by his thread asking for tips. Many experienced players still balk at RVS, especially ones that take big hiatuses.

The problem is, your reasoning introduces the paradox of Rocket being smart enough to understand RVS but dumb enough to defend his scum buddy so hard.

I wanted to vote TUF, since he knows better than to confuse newb behavior with scum behavior, but you took the FOS lead by just outright claiming both are scum.

Full claim, please.

VTL Frack

How about no? You don't need that information. I will ONLY give it to you if YOU full claim.
: At 8/8/2013 6:15:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
: The idiots are rebelling.

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6/29/2013 9:41:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 9:16:58 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/29/2013 8:57:03 PM, FrackJack wrote:
I predict that rocket and tulle are scum buddies. Rocket should at least be familiar with the concept of RVS. The way he jumped makes me think he is mafia with tulle.

Rocket has been out of mafia for a while, is still a newb, and is still learning as is evidenced by his thread asking for tips. Many experienced players still balk at RVS, especially ones that take big hiatuses.

The problem is, your reasoning introduces the paradox of Rocket being smart enough to understand RVS but dumb enough to defend his scum buddy so hard.

I wanted to vote TUF, since he knows better than to confuse newb behavior with scum behavior, but you took the FOS lead by just outright claiming both are scum.

Full claim, please.

VTL Frack

Full claim? He claimed without pressure, I don't think we need his full claim yet. He seems compliant.
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6/29/2013 9:42:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/29/2013 9:41:07 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 6/29/2013 9:16:58 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/29/2013 8:57:03 PM, FrackJack wrote:
I predict that rocket and tulle are scum buddies. Rocket should at least be familiar with the concept of RVS. The way he jumped makes me think he is mafia with tulle.

Rocket has been out of mafia for a while, is still a newb, and is still learning as is evidenced by his thread asking for tips. Many experienced players still balk at RVS, especially ones that take big hiatuses.

The problem is, your reasoning introduces the paradox of Rocket being smart enough to understand RVS but dumb enough to defend his scum buddy so hard.

I wanted to vote TUF, since he knows better than to confuse newb behavior with scum behavior, but you took the FOS lead by just outright claiming both are scum.

Full claim, please.

VTL Frack

Full claim? He claimed without pressure, I don't think we need his full claim yet. He seems compliant.

He just pegged two people as scum based nothing more than rockets questioning of RVS.
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6/29/2013 9:43:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Sorry drafter, I am not buying the rocket is a noob thing. Examine his play in the beginner game he first played in where he basically destroyed the entire mafia. Examine his gambit in marvel/DC where he was able to lead a lynch on TA and budda through his fake claim. His play is inconsistent, but he is definitely smarter than he is leading you to believe. I can buy that he genuinely didn't get the concept of RVS initially, but I don't think that means he should resist a claim.
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