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GOP
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7/28/2013 1:53:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Does anybody here go on Steam? Have you guys heard of this PC trend? I mean, people say that PC gaming is better than console gaming and stuff. Console users are referred to as "console peasants" and such. They go on talking about how games are cheaper and convenient to download on Steam and how it's inconvenient to buy games for your console. They also go on talking about how you can play almost any game on PC, whereas the consoles are restricted to certain games.

My opinion is that while PC gaming is a good idea, it is, however, not practical. I mean, one would have to spend a great deal of money (like 2000-3000+ USD) [1 and 2] on specific gaming PCs for the optimal gaming effect. If one resorts to using a regular computer, then it may very well be likely that everything would be a bit slower. A regular computer is not fully adapted for gaming purposes. I would say that one would be very well off with a 300 USD console, as it is very difficult to have the verve to even pay thousands of dollars for a gaming system. And I am not sure if installment payments would negate the effects.

Thoughts?


Sources:

1. http://www.frys.com...
2. http://www.cpusolutions.com...
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7/28/2013 2:16:51 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/28/2013 1:53:57 AM, GOP wrote:
Does anybody here go on Steam? Have you guys heard of this PC trend? I mean, people say that PC gaming is better than console gaming and stuff. Console users are referred to as "console peasants" and such. They go on talking about how games are cheaper and convenient to download on Steam and how it's inconvenient to buy games for your console. They also go on talking about how you can play almost any game on PC, whereas the consoles are restricted to certain games.

My opinion is that while PC gaming is a good idea, it is, however, not practical. I mean, one would have to spend a great deal of money (like 2000-3000+ USD) [1 and 2] on specific gaming PCs for the optimal gaming effect. If one resorts to using a regular computer, then it may very well be likely that everything would be a bit slower. A regular computer is not fully adapted for gaming purposes. I would say that one would be very well off with a 300 USD console, as it is very difficult to have the verve to even pay thousands of dollars for a gaming system. And I am not sure if installment payments would negate the effects.

Thoughts?


Sources:

1. http://www.frys.com...
2. http://www.cpusolutions.com...

Console gaming is more convenient (Steam notwithstanding; I have some Fallout 1 bitterness); PC gaming is often more powerful, and is done with an item that's far more useful. That's been the balance of power for decades. PC is working on increasing convenience (driver simplicity, systems like Steam) and console gaming is working on being prettier and more useful (next-gen, Xbox One's "center of the home" goal).
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7/28/2013 2:18:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/28/2013 2:17:46 AM, BornToDebate wrote:
just get alienware or razer laptop.

problem solved.

Alienware isn't what it used to be since Dell bought them.
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7/28/2013 4:25:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/28/2013 2:18:53 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 7/28/2013 2:17:46 AM, BornToDebate wrote:
just get alienware or razer laptop.

problem solved.

Alienware isn't what it used to be since Dell bought them.

It's got better in my opinion.
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7/28/2013 9:04:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
steam is not bad, but to be honest i do not even think its legal. I love PC games, like LOL and WoW and you can even have some good PC specific games. Both of the previous are, In terms of cost efficiency I think console beats PC though in that aspect, but PC has some better specific games that are MMOs where as console has some specific titles that you can not get on the PC unless you are breaking the law
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7/28/2013 9:05:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Yeah, the people who believe PC gaming is superior are annoying. You have to pay more to get a powerful PC, and while you do play less for games, it just isn't going to matter.

Aside from that, you don't get to legitimately play the excellent first-party franchises offered from the console systems. For me, that places PC gaming at a major disadvantage.
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7/28/2013 4:53:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/28/2013 2:17:46 AM, BornToDebate wrote:
just get alienware or razer laptop.

problem solved.

My computer is built and is just as good if not better than most alienware or razer
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7/30/2013 11:40:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
PC is in my opinion better. Yeah it costs more, but not the 2000-3000 range. That is about the cost for a gaming rig. I got my Gaming PC from alienware for 899 and on amazon I saw one for 500. Obviously the more you put in the better it will be, but mine is pretty amazing. And there aren't as many console exculsive titles as there is PC. Except Nintendo, which the only time you would need a console.
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7/31/2013 10:37:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/28/2013 1:53:57 AM, GOP wrote:
My opinion is that while PC gaming is a good idea, it is, however, not practical. I mean, one would have to spend a great deal of money (like 2000-3000+ USD) [1 and 2] on specific gaming PCs for the optimal gaming effect.

I don't know what you mean by optimal but I don't think this is true at all.
I'm first and foremost a PC gamer. I love my PS3 but it gathers dust between major titles while I play games on my PC daily. I spent like 900 dollars and got my computer, which can run any current game at top specs and has the OS installed on an SDD drive, my 21 inch monitor and roccat keyboard and mouse. I also spent about 80 bucks on a good headset and just bought 10 dollar speakers. Obviously I built my own computer. It doesn't have an i7, but a moderately good i5. I use onboard sound. 16gb ram. GeForce GTX 550 Ti for graphics... Oh and I built it 18 months ago, so it is probably only worth 500 bucks now.

If one resorts to using a regular computer, then it may very well be likely that everything would be a bit slower. A regular computer is not fully adapted for gaming purposes.

Again, what is 'normal'. Give me an example of a normal computer. Laptops shouldn't be used for anything graphic intensive because the onboard graphics burns out and shortens their lifespan but any desktop computer worth more than 400 bucks is going to be able to play games. If you want to play Crysis 3 (which was THE graphic intensive game 18 months ago, I don't know what the equivalent is now) high specs, you might have to pay a little bit more. But get down to your PCDIY (or local equivalent) with a small stack of cash and you'd be surprised what you can get. If the store is worth it's weight in piss the employees should help you with picking cost effective parts for your rig too.

I would say that one would be very well off with a 300 USD console, as it is very difficult to have the verve to even pay thousands of dollars for a gaming system. And I am not sure if installment payments would negate the effects.

Thoughts?


Sources:

1. http://www.frys.com...
2. http://www.cpusolutions.com...

The thing with a PC is that it isn't simply for gaming. Admittedly, with the desk, chair, computer set up and head unit I probably spent, oh, 1600 bucks. But I spent too much on the desk, lol. I think a good computer is a good investment. I like my PS3 for three reasons. One, Sony exclusive titles. Two, playing multiplayer games with my partner. Three, cheap bluray player. Also, I think 3rd person games are better with a controller so Tomb Raider and Uncharted style games rarely make it onto my PC. PC is for RTS and FPS games.
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7/31/2013 10:40:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

ann and I did a pretty extensive debate on this. She won, but I don't know why.

If anyone wants to do this resolution again (although I'm likely to rehash most of my arguments from this debate and adjust my rebuttals and counters to suit what you say and hopefully not forfeit any rounds) hit me up.
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