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8/3/2013 5:20:04 PM
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Lynched Last Day Phase

Beginner- Scout- Mafia

Killed Last Night

Hatstand- You are "about me"! You are the section where players can write a description about themselves that can be publicly seen on their profiles. Each night you can look at a player"s profile and see whether they are an investigative, passive, or effective type of role from their "about me" section. You win with the town.

Living Players

1. TN05
2. Khaos
3. budda
4. lannan
5. Yraelz (replaced rocket)
6. Daytonanerd
7. Coinsruledude

4/7 votes to lynch.
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8/3/2013 5:45:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
VTL TNO5

Why did you visit Daytona?
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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8/3/2013 5:46:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Just to let everyone know I'll be gone for the next two days because I have to work Worlds of Fun from 9AM-11PM and will return on Tuesday.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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Coinsruledude
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8/3/2013 6:21:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
That leaves seven of the original ten players...the pool is narrowing.

Hatstand must've been the mafia hit, unless there's another killing role somewhere who targeted her and the mafia hit a protected player at the same time.
: At 8/7/2013 5:16:53 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
What Frack did wasn't scummy, because honestly, its not inconsistent, its not illogical, its just Frack.
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8/3/2013 6:32:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 5:45:04 PM, lannan13 wrote:
VTL TNO5


Why did you visit Daytona?

I'll give my answer when you give the reason why you visited me.
Yraelz
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8/3/2013 7:02:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 6:34:22 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
VTL TN05 for death

I was redirected last night. He had to be the mofo that did it.

How do you know you were redirected?
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8/3/2013 7:06:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 5:45:04 PM, lannan13 wrote:
VTL TNO5


Why did you visit Daytona?

Are you claiming to be a watcher or a tracker?
Yraelz
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8/3/2013 7:07:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 6:32:00 PM, TN05 wrote:
I'll give my answer when you give the reason why you visited me.

Irrelevant. Explain what you did last night. Stop stalling.
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8/3/2013 7:08:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Also does anyone have a drafter list on this game? I'll get around to reading DP1 in the next few hours, but I'm not there yet.
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8/3/2013 7:51:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 7:07:43 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 6:32:00 PM, TN05 wrote:
I'll give my answer when you give the reason why you visited me.

Irrelevant. Explain what you did last night. Stop stalling.

I was suspicious of Daytona, so I checked him out. Nothing really more than that.
Yraelz
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8/3/2013 7:51:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 7:51:04 PM, TN05 wrote:
I was suspicious of Daytona, so I checked him out. Nothing really more than that.

"Checked him"? Are you the cop?
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8/3/2013 7:52:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 7:02:08 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 6:34:22 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
VTL TN05 for death

I was redirected last night. He had to be the mofo that did it.

How do you know you were redirected?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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8/3/2013 7:52:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 7:51:04 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:07:43 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 6:32:00 PM, TN05 wrote:
I'll give my answer when you give the reason why you visited me.

Irrelevant. Explain what you did last night. Stop stalling.

I was suspicious of Daytona, so I checked him out. Nothing really more than that.

Why were you suspicious of Daytona?
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
TN05
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8/3/2013 8:00:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 7:52:46 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:51:04 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:07:43 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 6:32:00 PM, TN05 wrote:
I'll give my answer when you give the reason why you visited me.

Irrelevant. Explain what you did last night. Stop stalling.

I was suspicious of Daytona, so I checked him out. Nothing really more than that.

Why were you suspicious of Daytona?

Well, I was not directly involved in yesterday by any regard, but I found his eagerness to lynch a bit suspicious, especially the fact he pressured for claims early on. Aside from that there just weren't too manyany other people I saw as too scummy yet. I don't want to reveal role simply because mafia should not know it, but I win with town and I am not mafia.
Coinsruledude
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8/3/2013 8:26:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:00:15 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:52:46 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:51:04 PM, TN05 wrote:
I was suspicious of Daytona, so I checked him out. Nothing really more than that.

Why were you suspicious of Daytona?

Well, I was not directly involved in yesterday by any regard, but I found his eagerness to lynch a bit suspicious, especially the fact he pressured for claims early on. Aside from that there just weren't too manyany other people I saw as too scummy yet. I don't want to reveal role simply because mafia should not know it, but I win with town and I am not mafia.
Why is it important that your specific role is kept secret, even though you basically described it anyway by saying you visited Daytona to 'check him out'?
: At 8/7/2013 5:16:53 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
What Frack did wasn't scummy, because honestly, its not inconsistent, its not illogical, its just Frack.
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8/3/2013 8:31:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:26:56 PM, Coinsruledude wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:00:15 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:52:46 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:51:04 PM, TN05 wrote:
I was suspicious of Daytona, so I checked him out. Nothing really more than that.

Why were you suspicious of Daytona?

Well, I was not directly involved in yesterday by any regard, but I found his eagerness to lynch a bit suspicious, especially the fact he pressured for claims early on. Aside from that there just weren't too manyany other people I saw as too scummy yet. I don't want to reveal role simply because mafia should not know it, but I win with town and I am not mafia.
Why is it important that your specific role is kept secret, even though you basically described it anyway by saying you visited Daytona to 'check him out'?

This game has a lot of unusual roles; I don't want the mafia to know exactly what role I have.
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8/3/2013 8:32:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 7:52:02 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/3/2013 7:02:08 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 6:34:22 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
VTL TN05 for death

I was redirected last night. He had to be the mofo that did it.

How do you know you were redirected?

In my role, it is pretty obvious to know that you have been redirected.

I know that it is frustrating that I don't go into specifics, but I am doing it for a reason.
#FeeltheFreezerBern
Yraelz
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8/3/2013 8:36:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:31:01 PM, TN05 wrote:
This game has a lot of unusual roles; I don't want the mafia to know exactly what role I have.

Justify this statement please. What unusual roles are you referring to?
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8/3/2013 8:39:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:36:46 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:31:01 PM, TN05 wrote:
This game has a lot of unusual roles; I don't want the mafia to know exactly what role I have.

Justify this statement please. What unusual roles are you referring to?

I don't know the roles of anyone else, but I was told in my role PM that some roles in the game are unusual.
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8/3/2013 8:41:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:39:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
I don't know the roles of anyone else, but I was told in my role PM that some roles in the game are unusual.

Premise 1: This game has a lot of unusual roles.
Conclusion 1: Thus I don't want the mafia to know my role.

How does the conclusion follow from the premise? Why does the game having unusual roles make you disinclined to out your role?
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8/3/2013 8:43:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:32:26 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
In my role, it is pretty obvious to know that you have been redirected.

I know that it is frustrating that I don't go into specifics, but I am doing it for a reason.

In DP1 you said your role is confirmable. The possibility that it has been redirected should not change this. How are you confirmed?
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8/3/2013 8:43:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:41:44 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:39:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
I don't know the roles of anyone else, but I was told in my role PM that some roles in the game are unusual.

Premise 1: This game has a lot of unusual roles.
Conclusion 1: Thus I don't want the mafia to know my role.

How does the conclusion follow from the premise? Why does the game having unusual roles make you disinclined to out your role?

If you reveal the role, the mafia knows it. If you have an unusual role and reveal it, the mafia can more easily plan around it; if you don't have an unusual role, they cannot plan around it.
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8/3/2013 8:46:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:39:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
I don't know the roles of anyone else, but I was told in my role PM that some roles in the game are unusual.

Did you ask TUF this, or was it part of your original role PM?
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8/3/2013 8:47:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:43:14 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:32:26 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
In my role, it is pretty obvious to know that you have been redirected.

I know that it is frustrating that I don't go into specifics, but I am doing it for a reason.

In DP1 you said your role is confirmable. The possibility that it has been redirected should not change this. How are you confirmed?

Coinsrule can confirm me.
#FeeltheFreezerBern
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8/3/2013 8:49:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:46:58 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:39:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
I don't know the roles of anyone else, but I was told in my role PM that some roles in the game are unusual.

Did you ask TUF this, or was it part of your original role PM?

It was part of the original PM.

I understand I might be looking suspicious here, but my role is of a nature that is not very useful if the mafia knows what it is. It is an unusual role, and that is an advantage of it.
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8/3/2013 8:50:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:48:21 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:47:13 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
Coinsrule can confirm me.

How?

Because he knows, for sure, that I am town.

And if you think I am the cult, ask yourself this.

Why would the lyncher and a cultist coexist in a 10 player game, designed to appeal to noobs?

Originally, Buddamoose was supposed to be the one that confirmed me, but I was redirected to Coins.
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8/3/2013 8:51:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/3/2013 8:49:29 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:46:58 PM, Yraelz wrote:
At 8/3/2013 8:39:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
I don't know the roles of anyone else, but I was told in my role PM that some roles in the game are unusual.

Did you ask TUF this, or was it part of your original role PM?

It was part of the original PM.

Does anyone else have 'unusual roles' explicitly described in their role PM?