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BEGINNERS 16.1 - Day Phase One

drafterman
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8/29/2013 7:06:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Introduction to Mafia:
Mafia is a game of strategy and behavioral analysis that pits an uninformed majority (The Town) against an informed minority (The Mafia). All members of the Mafia know who they are and - by poe - know who the members of the Town are. The mafia have their own shared PM where they can coordinate and discuss strategies. No member of the Town is given information about any other player; they must figure that out through the course of the game.

The game is divided into Day Phases (DP) and Night Phases (NP). Each DP will be conducted in a public thread created by me (such as this one). I will start each DP with a summary of actions performed the previous NP, a list of living and dead players, and other rules and notes. The DP is used by all players for open deliberation and is the only normal mechanism by which members of the Town can communicate with each other. It is the primary vehicle by which the members of the Town can eliminate their opposition: The Mafia. However, the Mafia are covertly part of this deliberation, and will try to disrupt or derail the plans of the Town, though in a way as not to reveal their affiliation.

During the DP, each player may cast a vote to lynch another player. The format is VTL Player Name. Unbolded votes do not count. To remove your vote from a player, simply Unvote. Alternatively, you may vote that no player be lynched that day with a vote to no lynch, or VTNL. If a majority of the living players vote to have another player lynched, or vote that no one should be lynched, the DP will end with the death of that player (if applicable) and the NP will begin.

The NP is where players can utilize the abilities of any role they have been given. These will be detailed in PMs I create for each player. In addition, the members of the Mafia can elect to kill another player during the Night. The NP ends when all players have submitted their actions.

The object of the game for each faction (Town, Mafia) is to eliminate the other faction. As a short-cut, when the Mafia make up 50% or more of the living players, the game will end automatically, since they will be able to control the vote during the DP and can no longer be eliminated (under most circumstances). However, there is no such short-cut for the Town, and they must eliminate each member of the Mafia.

Terms, acronyms, and abbreviations:

Alignment - your status as Town, Mafia, or 3rd Party (anything not Town or Mafia).
Bandwagon - A "wagon" consists of the individuals voting for a person. Bandwagoning usually refers to hopping on such a wagon blindly or without clearly articulating your reasons.
BP - Bulletproof, a person immune to night kills.
Buddying - A tactic by mafia where they agree with or support towns people in an attempt to look innocent in return.
Bussing - When the mafia allow, or help, get one of their own members lynched, in order to look innocent in return, or to avoid suspicion.
Claim - Either Character Claim or Role Claim. This is a request to reveal this part of your Role.
Counter Claim - In most cases, roles are unique per game. A counter-claim is when one person challenges another person's role-claim by claiming the same role.
Fake Claim - Since your character or role can be indicative of your alignment, mafioso's usually invent fake claims to avoid suspicion. Cna also be done by Towns-persons trying to perform some sort of gambit.
FOS - Finger of suspicion. Indicates that you suspect someone of being mafia, but usually not enough to place a vote on them.
Hammer - Placing the last vote on someone to get them lynched.
JK - Jailkeeper, a combination of doctor and roleblocker.
LYLO - Lynch or Lose, a situation where the towns-people only outnumber the mafia by 1. Since the mafia gets a kill at night and this would tie them with the town and earn them a win, it is necessary for the town to lynch a mafia in this situation or they lose.
Modkill - You break my rules - I kill you. I will also retroactively convert you into a survivor such that you can't even claim a win with your original faction.
MYLO - Mislynch and Lose, a situation where the towns-people outnumber the mafia by 2. A mislynch gives the mafia a free kill which, when combined with the mafia night kill, allows the mafia to win. Barring irrefutable results, MYLO generally results in no lynch, which merely leads to LYLO.
NK - night kill, any kill performed at night, though usually refers to the mafia night kill.
PM - Private message. Players are only permitted to create or talk in Private Messages set up by the mod.
PR - Power Role, a role with some ability, either passive or active. Towns people without a power role are referred to as "Vanillas" while mafiosos without a power role are referred to as "Goons"
RVS - Random Voting Stage. When there is no information to go on, but you need to get the game moving, generally you'll pressure someone randomly.
Scum - Anyone that is not aligned with the town.
Scum-tell - some trait, or "tell" that indicates a person may be scum.
Softclaim - dropping hints, but not out-right claiming, to be a specific character or role.
SK - Serial Killer, a third party, night killing role.
WIFOM - Wine In Front Of Me. A subtle and complex type of psychology. Best explained herehttp://mafiascum.net......

Rules:
1. The only PMs you are allowed to use to talk about this game with other players are the PMs that I have specifically created for that purpose.
2. DPs will last until a majority vote has been reached or 48 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, there will be no lynch.
3. NPs will last until everyone submits their night action or 48 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, your action is forfeit.
4. Any DP or NP that starts or ends on a weekend will be automatically extended 24 hours.
5. Be active (submit any Night actions in a timely matter and participate in DP discussions). I will replace people at my discretion in response to low or no activity.
6. You may not cut-and-paste from any game PM into the DP thread. You must always paraphrase (http://owl.english.purdue.edu......). Simply replacing the occasional word with a synonym is not acceptable.
7. All game related questions should be directed to me, via PM. You don't have to create a new PM, you may use your Role PM or mafia PM.
drafterman
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8/29/2013 7:07:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Round 1:
This Round will introduce you to the concept and basics of Mafia, including Role Madness!

Set-Up:
The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:
Town Roles
Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role

Mafia Roles
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player

Additionally, there is a maximum of only one of each role

Roles and Affiliations have been assigned randomly.
drafterman
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8/29/2013 7:08:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Living Players:
1. Fisher28
2. Bullish
3. Shadowguynick
4. Sparkies
5. Matbag24
6. OhHello
7. Khaos_Mage
8. Chillwuitm888

Replacements Pool:
1. bladerunner
2. JonMilne
3. Beginner
4. TN05
5. TA

Town Advisor: FourTrouble - FourTrouble has no additional or special knowledge of the game set-up or mechanics, nor does he know who is Town or who has what roles. He is here to offer his expertise and experience to help the Town in making best use of their Day Phases.

With 8 players, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
This Day Phase will end no lather than 0700 on 9/1 DDO Time.
Khaos_Mage
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8/29/2013 10:22:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well, this is a flourishing start.

I say we get two roles out, and go from there. Any volunteers?
Cop and Doc do not out.
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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8/29/2013 1:54:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/29/2013 1:49:47 PM, Bullish wrote:
VTL Khaos_Mage

For digging roles.

I'm Bodyguard by the way.

So, you out your role even though you think I'm scum?
What sense does that make?
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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8/29/2013 1:55:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/29/2013 1:49:47 PM, Bullish wrote:
VTL Khaos_Mage

For digging roles.

I'm Bodyguard by the way.

Also, how would you propose we start?
My work here is, finally, done.
Bullish
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8/29/2013 1:59:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Were in RVS, don't get defensive.

And this is how we start.

Just going to wait for a couple more people to post.
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Khaos_Mage
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8/29/2013 2:08:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/29/2013 1:59:34 PM, Bullish wrote:
Were in RVS, don't get defensive.

And this is how we start.

Just going to wait for a couple more people to post.

Neither of us have done RVS actions.
You voted for me because of what I said, that is not RVS.

I never voted on anyone, so that wasn't RVS, either.
RVS would have been my first post (the first of the game) being: VTL Player X.

I'm not being defensive, but why did you out your role if you thought it was a bad idea, and called me out for digging for them?
My work here is, finally, done.
Bullish
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8/29/2013 2:17:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/29/2013 2:08:36 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/29/2013 1:59:34 PM, Bullish wrote:
Were in RVS, don't get defensive.

And this is how we start.

Just going to wait for a couple more people to post.

Neither of us have done RVS actions.
You voted for me because of what I said, that is not RVS.

RVS stands for random voting stage. It's a stage, not a vote.

I never voted on anyone, so that wasn't RVS, either.
RVS would have been my first post (the first of the game) being: VTL Player X.

I'm not being defensive, but why did you out your role if you thought it was a bad idea, and called me out for digging for them?

You were being defensive. You said "...you think I'm scum?" when we were still in RVS.

Asking for roles is bad. Giving roles isn't. All I am is a lightning rod, It's not bad to claim my role, because if I did, I'm still a lightning rod, if you know what I mean.
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8/29/2013 2:20:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Bullish, the stage is over once there is reason for it to be over. (i.e. a vote placed for a reason, because a reason is no longer random)

However, I am putting you in the town pile.
Unless, of course, you are CC'd.
My work here is, finally, done.
Shadowguynick
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8/29/2013 5:31:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Should we compile a list of what's safe to out right now for any townies who might not know? You already said not to say anything if you are doc or cop, but there are some other useful roles that a townie shouldn't say right away, like PGO, rolecop, or roleblocker.
Fisher28
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8/29/2013 5:55:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Khaos_mage you proposed getting two roles out there just to get the game started. Since you put the idea forward, why not volunteer yourself?
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8/30/2013 12:19:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/30/2013 12:15:24 AM, Matbag24 wrote:
At 8/30/2013 12:10:07 AM, Matbag24 wrote:
VTL Chill for claim

VTL Chill for claim
(sorry for so many reposts, kept getting the bold wrong.)
Khaos_Mage
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8/30/2013 1:36:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/29/2013 5:55:19 PM, Fisher28 wrote:
Khaos_mage you proposed getting two roles out there just to get the game started. Since you put the idea forward, why not volunteer yourself?

Because I put the idea out there ;)

But, tell you what, if you out your role, I'll out mine.
My work here is, finally, done.
FourTrouble
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8/30/2013 2:14:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/30/2013 2:12:09 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
First Lesson: Khaos is an idiot, and 99% of what he says is wrong.

Seriously, outing lots of roles for no reason is a terrible idea. It gives the mafia a huge advantage in the NP without really helping the town much.
Khaos_Mage
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8/30/2013 2:20:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/30/2013 2:14:00 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 8/30/2013 2:12:09 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
First Lesson: Khaos is an idiot, and 99% of what he says is wrong.

Seriously, outing lots of roles for no reason is a terrible idea. It gives the mafia a huge advantage in the NP without really helping the town much.

That's why I only wanted two of them, and not any power roles.
The people who obliged are town read to me, which only one has.

Tell me, if I had just started voting random people, what would happen...they'd give me their roles. So, either way, we are outing some today.
My work here is, finally, done.
Sparkies
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8/30/2013 3:48:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Town Roles
Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self- Bull claims to be ( need vertification so early)
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role

Mafia Roles
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
so far there is not many roles out there, but it might be a false claim so im not going to release mine following four's advice
Shadowguynick
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8/30/2013 5:23:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Jesus Christ. 22 hours into the game. FourTrouble are there any policy lynches you would recommend if this game doesn't pick up? Like I've heard of lynching because someone is inactive and won't play.
OhHello
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8/30/2013 5:40:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Wait wait wait why are we lynching Chill. I can't see him saying anything, did he delete a comment? Lynching random people will just be doing the mafia's job for them, and they could just as easily be a cop or a doctor or something else that could be important..
Sparkies
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8/30/2013 6:13:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Nick If chill doesnt respond i will keep my vote, however if he responds ill retract my vote and change to someone else who's inactive
drafterman
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8/30/2013 7:17:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/30/2013 12:19:38 AM, Matbag24 wrote:
At 8/30/2013 12:15:24 AM, Matbag24 wrote:
At 8/30/2013 12:10:07 AM, Matbag24 wrote:
VTL Chill for claim

VTL Chill for claim
(sorry for so many reposts, kept getting the bold wrong.)

You did it right the first time.
drafterman
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8/30/2013 7:17:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/30/2013 2:12:09 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
First Lesson: Khaos is an idiot, and 99% of what he says is wrong.

Let's keep the advice dispassionate, please.
FourTrouble
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8/30/2013 9:26:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
For the record, requesting 2 random power roles that aren't cop/doc has the side-effect of telling the mafia who the cop/doc are anyway. It is just a matter of process of elimination.

To the townies out there: you guys need to be active, start trying to figure the game out. In this beginning "low information" stage, you can grasp at straws. If there is something that someone does that doesn't make sense to you, or has an obviously anti-town effect, ask that person questions. Try to figure out their motivations. You gotta catch the scum somehow, and the one thing I can guarantee is that the scum won't catch themselves. You guys gotta make things happen.