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The Matrix Mafia DP4

JonMilne
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11/13/2013 9:08:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Lynched in DP3

srehtiw -- Agent Brown

"She got out"
"Doesn't matter".
"The informant is real".
"Yes."
"We have the name of their next target."
"The name is Neo".
"We'll need a search running."
"It has already begun."


You are Agent Brown, one of the sentient programs of the Machines whose primary function is to eliminate everyone and anyone who could reveal the truth of the Matrix or cause harm to its virtual reality. You have extraordinary powers to manipulate your surroundings as a means to combat the Resistance. You are the Redirector. Each night you will choose two players. Any actions performed by the first player will be redirected to the second. You win with the MACHINES.

Died in NP3

thedebatekid -- Sati

"My papa says you"re not supposed to be here. He says you must be lost. Are you lost, Neo?"

You are Sati, the child of programs Rama-Kandra and Kamala, and thus became the Exile without a purpose, whose survival was negotiated with the Merovingian to smuggle you into the Matrix in return for the termination code for the Oracle"s outer shell. It is believed you are highly important to the future of both humans and machines. You are the Innocent Child. Your affiliation will be mod confirmed at the start of any day phase of your choosing, or it can be kept entirely at your discretion. You win with ZION.

Previously Killed

1. TA -- Agent Smith -- Cult Leader -- 3rd Party Cult
2. Yraelz -- Tank -- Watcher -- Zion

Player List

1. Khaos Mage
2. TUF
3. Sparkies
4. Bladerunner060
5. Hatstand
6. TN05 (replacing UnopinionatedMoron)

With 6 players, it takes 4 votes to lynch. This DP will last no later than 9am DD0 Time on Saturday the 16th of November.
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11/13/2013 9:11:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
VTL TDK

5 town, 1 mafia should be left. Unless we royally screw this up we have two shots to find the last scum.
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11/13/2013 9:13:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 9:11:35 AM, TN05 wrote:
VTL TDK

5 town, 1 mafia should be left. Unless we royally screw this up we have two shots to find the last scum.

Facepalm, he died. Unvote
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11/13/2013 9:19:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Here's what we need to do. TUF and Hatstand - the two remaining unclaimed individuals - need to full claim immediately. Me, Khaos, Sparkies, and Bladerunner are basically confirmed at this point (4 major characters with no CC), so the scum is between those two.

VTL Hatstand for full claim
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11/13/2013 9:20:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 9:13:50 AM, Sparkies wrote:
lolollololol #yolo VTL Khaods for w/e

That's a stupid move, he's basically confirmed town from his claim of Seraph and CC of a mafia.
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11/13/2013 9:22:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Keep in mind me and Khaos are basically unkillable as long as we protect each other and there is no strongman.
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11/13/2013 10:18:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 9:19:35 AM, TN05 wrote:
Here's what we need to do. TUF and Hatstand - the two remaining unclaimed individuals - need to full claim immediately. Me, Khaos, Sparkies, and Bladerunner are basically confirmed at this point (4 major characters with no CC), so the scum is between those two.

VTL Hatstand for full claim

I am in favor of this. I'm not voting yet just to prevent a misfire--but I will soon if Hatstand doesn't respond (I also recognize that I think Hatstand is in an entirely different timezone).
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11/13/2013 12:08:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 10:18:01 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 9:19:35 AM, TN05 wrote:
Here's what we need to do. TUF and Hatstand - the two remaining unclaimed individuals - need to full claim immediately. Me, Khaos, Sparkies, and Bladerunner are basically confirmed at this point (4 major characters with no CC), so the scum is between those two.

VTL Hatstand for full claim

I am in favor of this. I'm not voting yet just to prevent a misfire--but I will soon if Hatstand doesn't respond (I also recognize that I think Hatstand is in an entirely different timezone).

Of course.
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11/13/2013 12:26:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
VTL Sparkies

I've not liked his play, and I'm not buying his role.
Let's kill him and mod confirm someone else.

We should be ahead enough.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/13/2013 12:55:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 12:26:01 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
VTL Sparkies

I've not liked his play, and I'm not buying his role.
Let's kill him and mod confirm someone else.

We should be ahead enough.

OK, but that means we just have one more turn to get it right. At least we are unkillable...

VTL Sparkies
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11/13/2013 1:29:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 12:55:24 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 12:26:01 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
VTL Sparkies

I've not liked his play, and I'm not buying his role.
Let's kill him and mod confirm someone else.

We should be ahead enough.

OK, but that means we just have one more turn to get it right. At least we are unkillable...

VTL Sparkies

We're not unkillable.
You are not protected... at least, I don't think you would be.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/13/2013 1:35:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 1:34:06 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Unvote

We need to full claim today.
Let's start with TN05...
Who did you protect each night?

First night I protected Sparkies. I've protected you the last two nights.
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11/13/2013 1:54:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 9:19:35 AM, TN05 wrote:
Here's what we need to do. TUF and Hatstand - the two remaining unclaimed individuals - need to full claim immediately. Me, Khaos, Sparkies, and Bladerunner are basically confirmed at this point (4 major characters with no CC), so the scum is between those two.

VTL Hatstand for full claim

I am Morpheus and I am the Cop.

My investigations have found:

TUF - innocent
Sparkies - innocent
TN05 (replacing UnopinionatedMoron) - innocent

So unless I'm naive (which I doubt, given my character) our candidates are Blade and Khaos.
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11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF
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11/13/2013 2:09:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF

How will this prove that I'm cop? If I'm not, then I'm the only scum left (presumably. I don't think there were three scum and a cult in this game) -.-
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11/13/2013 2:12:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF

If anything you should be lynching me to confirm my affiliation and my sanity. The only thing stopping me from suggesting it immediately is the numbers.

DP4(3-1-1) (confirmed-unconfirmed-scum)
NP4(2-1-1)
DP5(1-1-1) and there goes the majority of the value of my results.
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11/13/2013 2:12:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 2:09:25 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF

How will this prove that I'm cop? If I'm not, then I'm the only scum left (presumably. I don't think there were three scum and a cult in this game) -.-

You've confirmed him as innocent, and he's the only other person not to have claimed. If he is innocent, than we know you are indeed cop and you can investigate Khaos to find if he is guilty or not. If you are lying, we lynch you the next day phase.
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11/13/2013 2:16:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 2:12:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF

If anything you should be lynching me to confirm my affiliation and my sanity. The only thing stopping me from suggesting it immediately is the numbers.

DP4(3-1-1) (confirmed-unconfirmed-scum)
NP4(2-1-1)
DP5(1-1-1) and there goes the majority of the value of my results.

How would this confirm your sanity? Realistically, we can do the following:
*Lynch Khaos, who you haven't investigated,
*Lynch Bladerunner, who has claimed Neo and has no CC.
*Lynch TUF, Sparkies, or myself, who you've identified as innocent.
*Lynch you, who has claimed cop.
*Lynch nobody, letting mafia control the night phase.

Really it's between lynching Khaos or you IMO.
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11/13/2013 2:17:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Keep in mind unless mafia has a second killing role, we get two shots here.

VTL Khaos

If he flips innocent, we kill Hatstand.
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11/13/2013 2:19:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 2:17:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
Keep in mind unless mafia has a second killing role, we get two shots here.

VTL Khaos

If he flips innocent, we kill Hatstand.

Gah, too much WIFOM.

Unvote VTNL

This is how the night will go:

Hatstand will investigate Khaos and I will protect her, ensuring her cop goes through. If Khaos flips guilty, we lynch him - if he flips innocent, we disregard the results entirely because Bladerunner, the claimed Neo, cannot be mafia.
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11/13/2013 2:22:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 2:12:55 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 2:09:25 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF

How will this prove that I'm cop? If I'm not, then I'm the only scum left (presumably. I don't think there were three scum and a cult in this game) -.-

You've confirmed him as innocent, and he's the only other person not to have claimed. If he is innocent, than we know you are indeed cop and you can investigate Khaos to find if he is guilty or not. If you are lying, we lynch you the next day phase.

Does this scenario seem likely to you?

DP1 (6-3-1) (town - scum - cult) (assuming mislynch)
NP1 (5-3-1) (assuming town NK and town recruitment)
DP2 (3-3-2)

And there the town has basically lost. There is very little possibility that there were three scum. We've already caught Srehtiw, so that means there's one left. That means that if I was scum and pretending to be cop, everyone else would be town. Thus if you lynched my investigations, they would flip innocent.

If you're thinking of a scenario where there are two scum left, the ratio would be

DP4 (3-2) and this would be LYLO. Thus, you could not afford to take chances.

Also, chances are I'm going to die in this NP before I can confirm the whole town.
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11/13/2013 2:23:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 2:19:38 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 2:17:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
Keep in mind unless mafia has a second killing role, we get two shots here.

VTL Khaos

If he flips innocent, we kill Hatstand.

Gah, too much WIFOM.

Unvote VTNL

This is how the night will go:

Hatstand will investigate Khaos and I will protect her, ensuring her cop goes through. If Khaos flips guilty, we lynch him - if he flips innocent, we disregard the results entirely because Bladerunner, the claimed Neo, cannot be mafia.

There is the possibility that Neo is not in the game.but I agree, Khaos seems the most likely mafia of the two.
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11/13/2013 2:27:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/13/2013 2:22:03 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/13/2013 2:12:55 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 2:09:25 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:58:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/13/2013 1:57:42 PM, TN05 wrote:
VTL Khaos

Bladerunner is neo.

Actually, unvote

We need to kill TUF to confirm that Hatstand is cop. If she is lying we kill her, and if she is telling the truth we kill Khaos.

VTL TUF

How will this prove that I'm cop? If I'm not, then I'm the only scum left (presumably. I don't think there were three scum and a cult in this game) -.-

You've confirmed him as innocent, and he's the only other person not to have claimed. If he is innocent, than we know you are indeed cop and you can investigate Khaos to find if he is guilty or not. If you are lying, we lynch you the next day phase.

Does this scenario seem likely to you?

DP1 (6-3-1) (town - scum - cult) (assuming mislynch)
NP1 (5-3-1) (assuming town NK and town recruitment)
DP2 (3-3-2)

And there the town has basically lost. There is very little possibility that there were three scum. We've already caught Srehtiw, so that means there's one left. That means that if I was scum and pretending to be cop, everyone else would be town. Thus if you lynched my investigations, they would flip innocent.

I can see what you mean, but I've never felt you as mafia this game.

If you're thinking of a scenario where there are two scum left, the ratio would be

DP4 (3-2) and this would be LYLO. Thus, you could not afford to take chances.

There is almost certainly not two scum.

Also, chances are I'm going to die in this NP before I can confirm the whole town.

Not if I protect you.
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11/13/2013 2:30:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
So here are really three plans we could do here:
*No lynch, trust Hatstand is cop. I protect Hatstand and ensure cop goes through (if she is indeed cop), and then we act accordingly.
*Lynch Hatstand to confirm as cop by the most effective means (death), and then lynch Khaos.
*Lynch Khaos, and lynch Hatstand if he flips innocent.

Too many choices! Honestly the second might be the best, but I hate to kill a cop. The third is also a good option. I like the first but it seems to be limited in comparison to the other two now that I think about it.
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11/13/2013 2:51:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Here's a question...
1. Why would I as mafia CC someone, even if did think they were CC? That is a pretty risky gambit.
2. Why do you think I didn't die NP1?
My work here is, finally, done.