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Beginners Mafia 17.2 - Day Phase 1

Khaos_Mage
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11/16/2013 1:04:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Introduction - Third Parties and Misinformation

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Depending on the game and the mod, third parties win by themselves, when certain conditions are met, or can win with either the Town or the Mafia. In this game, joint wins are possible!

This game also introduces the concept of flavors. Flavors are the adjectives of Mafia, altering how roles work. Here are some common flavors:

These Flavors are usually made known to the player:
Even/Odd - Roles with these modifiers can only work on Even or Odd-numbered Night Phases
X-Shot - Roles with these modifiers can only be used X number of times.

These Flavors are usually hidden from the player (their role PM is that of the normal, unflavored variety):
Paranoid - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Guitly-type results. For Doctors, they role-block their target.
Naive - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Innocent-type results. For Doctors and other non-investigative roles, they do nothing.
Insane - For Cops, they receive results opposite of the Truth
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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11/16/2013 1:07:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Round 2:
This Round will introduce you to third parties and flavors.

Set-Up:
The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:
Town Roles
Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Coroner - Can learn the affiliation and role of a dead player.
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Ascetic - Cannot be targeted by non-lethal actions.
Commuter - Cannot be targeted at night.
Sidekick - Redirects non-lethal actions from another player to himself.
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Cop, Doctor, Vigilante

Mafia Roles
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Role Stealer- Can permanently steal and use another player's role.
Ascetic - Same as Town.
Bus Driver - Switches the actions performed on two players.
Jack of All Trades has 1x: Role Cop, Role Block, Frame
Commuter - Same as Town.
Framer - Can make another player investigate as non-Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Rolestopper - Can make another player immune to non-lethal actions.
Godfather - Investigates as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Janitor - Can choose to hide the role and affiliation of a killed player.
Lawyer - Can make another player investigate as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Ninja - Does not appear on tracker/watcher reports.
Redirector - Can change another player's intended target.
Roleblocker - Prevents the use of another player's role.

Third Party Roles
Serial Killer - Each night may kill another player. Wins when all other players are dead (joint win not possible).
Survivor - Wins by surviving until another faction achieves its win condition (joint win possible).

There is a maximum of only one of each role.

Roles, Affiliations, and any Flavors. have been assigned randomly.
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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11/16/2013 1:13:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The current list of players is:

1. NotreallysmAart
2. Mrs. Lynch
3. SpencerJiyage 14
4. bsh1
5. Hatstand
6. JonMilne
7. srehtiw
8. nightcats

Sparkies is the town advisor.

WIth 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
This DP ends no later than 2PM Tuesday 11/19, DDO time.


I am also instigating an activity rule:
If any player does not log into DDO for a period of two days, they will be replaced.
If any player goes 72 hours without posting in either their PM or in the DP, they will be replaced.


Mafia is best taught by playing, and inactivity hinders this.
You are here to learn, and you learn by playing. Get your feet wet and have fun.
My work here is, finally, done.
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 1:28:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 1:13:42 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Sparkies is the town advisor.

Is Zaradi now the scum advisor? (I saw him volunteer in the endgame). It'd be good to know whether the scum have an experienced player looking over their shoulder by default or not.
Khaos_Mage
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11/16/2013 1:33:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 1:28:05 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:13:42 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Sparkies is the town advisor.

Is Zaradi now the scum advisor? (I saw him volunteer in the endgame). It'd be good to know whether the scum have an experienced player looking over their shoulder by default or not.

You know, I never asked....
He seemed not into it, by his "convince me" verbiage. We'll see if he responds.
My work here is, finally, done.
NightofTheLivingCats
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11/16/2013 1:34:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 1:28:05 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:13:42 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Sparkies is the town advisor.

Is Zaradi now the scum advisor? (I saw him volunteer in the endgame). It'd be good to know whether the scum have an experienced player looking over their shoulder by default or not.

Is this a scumslip?
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 1:37:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 1:34:36 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:28:05 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:13:42 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Sparkies is the town advisor.

Is Zaradi now the scum advisor? (I saw him volunteer in the endgame). It'd be good to know whether the scum have an experienced player looking over their shoulder by default or not.

Is this a scumslip?

No. Why would it be? If they have no advisor, and they're acting unusually rationally, it wouldn't be too much to assume that you, Jon, or I were scum. If they have an advisor, there is an experienced person guiding the scum team by default, and so this assumption is useless.
NightofTheLivingCats
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11/16/2013 1:40:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 1:37:48 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:34:36 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:28:05 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/16/2013 1:13:42 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Sparkies is the town advisor.

Is Zaradi now the scum advisor? (I saw him volunteer in the endgame). It'd be good to know whether the scum have an experienced player looking over their shoulder by default or not.

Is this a scumslip?

No. Why would it be? If they have no advisor, and they're acting unusually rationally, it wouldn't be too much to assume that you, Jon, or I were scum. If they have an advisor, there is an experienced person guiding the scum team by default, and so this assumption is useless.

Sorry. You acted as if you were hinting at it.
JonMilne
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11/16/2013 2:50:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 1:24:18 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Jon for claim

I'd like to protect my role, for now. The wording of this should give you enough of a clue.
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 3:26:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 3:24:04 PM, srehtiw wrote:
Ok so let the investigating begin. vtl hatstand for role.

May I just say that it is in the best interests of the town that my role remains protected also, and this leads me to be curious about what Jon's role could be.
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 3:51:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 3:49:09 PM, srehtiw wrote:
unvote ok so so-far it seems that no one is willing to out their role.

Indeed.

1. How do you think we should proceed?
2. What do you think of the presence of two protective roles?
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 5:34:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Srehtiw, where did you go? You know it doesn't look good dissapearing when you're asked for a claim, especially when you had posted yourself 15 minutes beforehand.
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 7:17:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Some questions to think about:

What are the implications of two claimed protective roles?
What does it mean that Srehtiw dissapeared so soon after being asked for a claim?
We have a TP in this game. A SK has to kill every night. Is it worth no lynching to discover how many hostiles we're dealing with.

Please think about these things and whatever else you think could be important and post your thoughts in the thread. The game will always start slowly, but unless you do something to get the ball rolling it will never go anywhere.
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 7:20:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Also, may I just point out that the ratio of this game is probably (5-1-2) town, TP, scum. That means that every townie counts, and none of us can afford complacency.
Sparkies
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11/16/2013 7:34:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
tbh this is what i mean town with activity newbies. only srehtiw is the only one to post excepting the experienced players. Also being in a proper game while in beginners do help with understanding the game.
Mikal
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11/16/2013 8:56:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I have been allowed to replace someone, but still at a lost as to what to do. Requesting help from zaradi and kaos. I will be quite active though
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 9:02:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 8:56:04 PM, Mikal wrote:
I have been allowed to replace someone, but still at a lost as to what to do. Requesting help from zaradi and kaos. I will be quite active though

Scumslip?

Why are you specifically asking help from the guy who volunteered as scum advisor?
Mikal
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11/16/2013 9:03:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 9:02:44 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Welcome to the game, by the way :)

I have no idea , just saw him offer to help and im literally freaking lost as to what to do lol. Cant ask khazo cus hes the mod but I shall study
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 9:11:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 9:03:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/16/2013 9:02:44 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Welcome to the game, by the way :)

I have no idea , just saw him offer to help and im literally freaking lost as to what to do lol. Cant ask khazo cus hes the mod but I shall study

You can ask Sparkies, he's the official town advisor. You can also ask Jon, Cats, and myself. We're more experienced players, and we can't really lie to you without one of the others catching us.

I do find it mildly concerning that you have contact with the scum advisor, but lets start with this: I'll answer any questions you have to the best of my ability, and you answer the ones I have to the best of yours.
Mikal
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11/16/2013 9:12:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 9:11:32 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/16/2013 9:03:31 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/16/2013 9:02:44 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Welcome to the game, by the way :)

I have no idea , just saw him offer to help and im literally freaking lost as to what to do lol. Cant ask khazo cus hes the mod but I shall study

You can ask Sparkies, he's the official town advisor. You can also ask Jon, Cats, and myself. We're more experienced players, and we can't really lie to you without one of the others catching us.

I do find it mildly concerning that you have contact with the scum advisor, but lets start with this: I'll answer any questions you have to the best of my ability, and you answer the ones I have to the best of yours.

Will do Im watching a tutorial video in a bit on youtube that tuf made. And then ima try to ease into it
Khaos_Mage
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11/16/2013 9:44:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I am on my phone and at work. This is more hassle than i thought.
Zaradi will be helping mikil personally, like a hydra.
No assumption of affiliation should be made by this.
They know each other somehow.
My work here is, finally, done.
Hatstand
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11/16/2013 9:54:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/16/2013 9:44:16 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I am on my phone and at work. This is more hassle than i thought.
Zaradi will be helping mikil personally, like a hydra.
No assumption of affiliation should be made by this.
They know each other somehow.

Alright. Thanks for letting us know. Does that mean the scum team is still floundering in the dark, then?