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Beginner's Mafia 17.2 - DP2

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11/18/2013 10:03:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Died in the night:
NightCats - Ascetic - Cannot be targeted by non-lethal actions.

Lynched last DP:
srehtiw - Survivor

Living players:
1. NotreallysmAart
2. Mrs. Lynch
3. SpencerJiyage 14
4. bsh1
5. Hatstand
6. JonMilne

With six living players, it takes four to lynch.
This DP will end no later than 10 PM 11/20 DDO time.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.
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11/18/2013 10:11:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

that people would be a great idea but townies you need to be active.
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11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim
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11/18/2013 10:16:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim

My soft claim wasn't enough for you? What are your motives? Why do you want my claim? What have I done to make you think I'm scum? Wanting a protective role to out themselves isn't exactly pro-town.
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11/18/2013 10:17:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim

Also, you need to bold my name as well for the vote to be official.
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11/18/2013 10:18:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Although, really, I'd like to hear more from Jon. There are only two roles on that list that I'd really call protective. What are the odds they'd both be in this game?
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11/18/2013 10:18:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim

I'll allow this vote, but technically a valid vote would look like this or that:
VTL Hatstand for claim
VTL Hatstand for claim
My work here is, finally, done.
Mikal
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11/18/2013 10:22:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:16:29 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim

My soft claim wasn't enough for you? What are your motives? Why do you want my claim? What have I done to make you think I'm scum? Wanting a protective role to out themselves isn't exactly pro-town.

I was almost positive jon and cats were mafia. But with the way it played out for one of them to be mafia, it almost seemed as if the next logical step was they both had to be.

Sre was lynched and he was third party

Nights was town

I am claiming my role up front. I am a priest.

Mrs lynch and spencer have been almost entirely obsolete from this game.

I am putting you at like 95 percent scum
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11/18/2013 10:24:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:22:01 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:16:29 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim

My soft claim wasn't enough for you? What are your motives? Why do you want my claim? What have I done to make you think I'm scum? Wanting a protective role to out themselves isn't exactly pro-town.

I was almost positive jon and cats were mafia. But with the way it played out for one of them to be mafia, it almost seemed as if the next logical step was they both had to be.

Sre was lynched and he was third party

Nights was town

I am claiming my role up front. I am a priest.

Mrs lynch and spencer have been almost entirely obsolete from this game.

I am putting you at like 95 percent scum

... You do realise that activity is a town tell, and lurking (aka inactivity) is a scum tell?
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11/18/2013 10:24:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:22:01 PM, Mikal wrote:

Mrs lynch and spencer have been almost entirely obsolete from this game.
You replaced SpencerJoyage14. I forgot to make the change from the last list.
My work here is, finally, done.
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11/18/2013 10:26:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:24:21 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:22:01 PM, Mikal wrote:

Mrs lynch and spencer have been almost entirely obsolete from this game.
You replaced SpencerJoyage14. I forgot to make the change from the last list.

Fault sorry
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11/18/2013 10:27:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:22:01 PM, Mikal wrote:

I am claiming my role up front. I am a priest.


Let's confirm each other. I visited you last night. What is my role?
Mikal
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11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:24:15 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:22:01 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:16:29 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:15:05 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:07:24 PM, Hatstand wrote:
The ratio is at (4-2). If we mislynch today, we end up at (2-2) tomorrow. Aka a scum win. Welcome to MYLO.

Today, unless we are absolutely certain of someone's scumminess, we let the DP time out, and instead use all our time here hunting out targets for the next DP.

VTL Hatstand for claim

My soft claim wasn't enough for you? What are your motives? Why do you want my claim? What have I done to make you think I'm scum? Wanting a protective role to out themselves isn't exactly pro-town.

I was almost positive jon and cats were mafia. But with the way it played out for one of them to be mafia, it almost seemed as if the next logical step was they both had to be.

Sre was lynched and he was third party

Nights was town

I am claiming my role up front. I am a priest.

Mrs lynch and spencer have been almost entirely obsolete from this game.

I am putting you at like 95 percent scum

... You do realise that activity is a town tell, and lurking (aka inactivity) is a scum tell?

Lynch has not even been on in a day, and is probably on the verge of being replaced.

So this is how I see it so far

Jon - town
Bsh - town
Hasta - mafia
Me - Priest
Lynch - town
notreally smart - no idea

granted it could flip and be this

Jon - Mafia
Bsh - town
Hasta - town
Me - Priest
Lynch - Town
Notreallysmart - clueless

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.
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11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.
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11/18/2013 10:40:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

actualy i am wrong, i was gambit on a bus driver but even that would not add up
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11/18/2013 10:42:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

unvote hatsand
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11/18/2013 10:51:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:42:04 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

unvote hatsand


Reluctant to confirm yourself? If we confirm two townies, then 50% of the remaining players will be scum.
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11/18/2013 10:53:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:51:58 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:42:04 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

unvote hatsand


Reluctant to confirm yourself? If we confirm two townies, then 50% of the remaining players will be scum.

I don't want to confirm your role, it can be vital and it will also leave people to target you. Sometimes you cant save yourself
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11/18/2013 10:54:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:51:58 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:42:04 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

unvote hatsand


Reluctant to confirm yourself? If we confirm two townies, then 50% of the remaining players will be scum.

At least that should give you confirmation
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11/18/2013 10:55:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:54:13 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:51:58 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:42:04 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

unvote hatsand


Reluctant to confirm yourself? If we confirm two townies, then 50% of the remaining players will be scum.

At least that should give you confirmation

If Jon claims before you reveal, you lose your confirmation. If you lose your confirmation, I lose mine. Bear that in mind.
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11/18/2013 10:59:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:55:45 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:54:13 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:51:58 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:42:04 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:35:21 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:31:21 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you are jon are mafia, that is apparent. If you claim it will she light. I also have a tell from my passive during night phase, so if you claim and it doesnt match your soft claim, it only increases the probability.

I know that someone visited you in the night. I know the role of that person. You know that someone visited you in the night. You know the role of that person. I have offered up one piece of information, now you offer the other. If you don't know what I am, you're scum. If you do, we're both town. And it's not like I can just claim whatever you say. I'd get CC'd.

unvote hatsand


Reluctant to confirm yourself? If we confirm two townies, then 50% of the remaining players will be scum.

At least that should give you confirmation

If Jon claims before you reveal, you lose your confirmation. If you lose your confirmation, I lose mine. Bear that in mind.

I am aware. It could be a bluff, but what we know with 100 percent certainty was my assertion from early

Either you or Mafia or Jon is mafia. Both of you are not town.
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11/18/2013 10:59:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm starting to think Mikal might be scum as he won't confirm w/ Hatstand...
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11/18/2013 11:00:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:59:12 PM, Mikal wrote:

Either you or Mafia or Jon is mafia. Both of you are not town.

How's this? If Jon claims my role, you CC on my behalf. Then we still both get a confirmation.
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11/18/2013 11:02:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:59:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I'm starting to think Mikal might be scum as he won't confirm w/ Hatstand...

I've already done my half of the confirmation. It's himself he's refusing to confirm.
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11/18/2013 11:05:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 10:59:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I'm starting to think Mikal might be scum as he won't confirm w/ Hatstand...

If I confirm hasta and she acknowledges her role. It would almost guarantee a lynch on jon.

Thing is both of them soft claimed the same thing in dp1. So me claiming priest she can very well bluff and say she visited me thinking jon may visit me because i openly claimed town.

Thing is we have to consider a bus driver. What if mafia has a DP and they forced john to visit me in hopes of revealing his role.
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11/18/2013 11:06:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 11:05:18 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:59:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I'm starting to think Mikal might be scum as he won't confirm w/ Hatstand...

If I confirm hasta and she acknowledges her role. It would almost guarantee a lynch on jon.

Thing is both of them soft claimed the same thing in dp1. So me claiming priest she can very well bluff and say she visited me thinking jon may visit me because i openly claimed town.

Thing is we have to consider a bus driver. What if mafia has a DP and they forced john to visit me in hopes of revealing his role.

re director sorry* , if you throw a bus drive and that into the mix it could be a giant ploy for you, but it is highly unlikely.
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11/18/2013 11:09:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 11:05:18 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:59:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I'm starting to think Mikal might be scum as he won't confirm w/ Hatstand...

If I confirm hasta and she acknowledges her role. It would almost guarantee a lynch on jon.

Thing is both of them soft claimed the same thing in dp1. So me claiming priest she can very well bluff and say she visited me thinking jon may visit me because i openly claimed town.

Thing is we have to consider a bus driver. What if mafia has a DP and they forced john to visit me in hopes of revealing his role.

How the heck would they have known that you would find out his role if he did?
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11/18/2013 11:14:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/18/2013 11:09:34 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 11/18/2013 11:05:18 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 11/18/2013 10:59:28 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I'm starting to think Mikal might be scum as he won't confirm w/ Hatstand...

If I confirm hasta and she acknowledges her role. It would almost guarantee a lynch on jon.

Thing is both of them soft claimed the same thing in dp1. So me claiming priest she can very well bluff and say she visited me thinking jon may visit me because i openly claimed town.

Thing is we have to consider a bus driver. What if mafia has a DP and they forced john to visit me in hopes of revealing his role.

How the heck would they have known that you would find out his role if he did?

out of chance, i just feel forcing a CC from both of you is a necessity.