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Beginner Mafia 18.2 - DP1

Khaos_Mage
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12/16/2013 10:55:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Introduction - Third Parties and Misinformation

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Depending on the game and the mod, third parties win by themselves, when certain conditions are met, or can win with either the Town or the Mafia. In this game, joint wins are possible!

This game also introduces the concept of flavors. Flavors are the adjectives of Mafia, altering how roles work. Here are some common flavors:

These Flavors are usually made known to the player:
Even/Odd - Roles with these modifiers can only work on Even or Odd-numbered Night Phases
X-Shot - Roles with these modifiers can only be used X number of times.

These Flavors are usually hidden from the player (their role PM is that of the normal, unflavored variety):
Paranoid - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Guitly-type results. For Doctors, they role-block their target.
Naive - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Innocent-type results. For Doctors and other non-investigative roles, they do nothing.
Insane - For Cops, they receive results opposite of the Truth
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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12/16/2013 10:56:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Round 2:
This Round will introduce you to third parties and flavors.

Set-Up:
The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:
Town Roles
Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Coroner - Can learn the affiliation and role of a dead player.
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Ascetic - Cannot be targeted by non-lethal actions.
Commuter - Cannot be targeted at night.
Sidekick - Redirects non-lethal actions from another player to himself.
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Cop, Doctor, Vigilante

Mafia Roles
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Role Stealer- Can permanently steal and use another player's role.
Ascetic - Same as Town.
Bus Driver - Switches the actions performed on two players.
Jack of All Trades has 1x: Role Cop, Role Block, Frame
Commuter - Same as Town.
Framer - Can make another player investigate as non-Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Rolestopper - Can make another player immune to non-lethal actions.
Godfather - Investigates as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Janitor - Can choose to hide the role and affiliation of a killed player.
Lawyer - Can make another player investigate as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Ninja - Does not appear on tracker/watcher reports.
Redirector - Can change another player's intended target.
Roleblocker - Prevents the use of another player's role.

Third Party Roles
Serial Killer - Each night may kill another player. Wins when all other players are dead (joint win not possible).
Survivor - Wins by surviving until another faction achieves its win condition (joint win possible).

There is a maximum of only one of each role.

Roles were generated randomly, then assigned randomly.
My work here is, finally, done.
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12/16/2013 10:59:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Living Players:
1. Aloke
2. sketchn
3. bsh1
4. PotbelliedGeek
5. SolonKR
6. Yay842
7. Mikal
8. Crypto
9. Zaradi
10. Hatstand

With 10 players, it takes six votes to lynch.
This DP ends no later than 11 AM December 19th. (extra time for late start)


Unlike the last game, mafia has been afforded no help, and neither will town.
My work here is, finally, done.
bsh1
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12/16/2013 11:03:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:00:47 PM, Zaradi wrote:
VTL Hats for death.

I ain't even salty.

LMFAO...Hats, good game last time. Can't let you slip by this time, lol...time to bring pressure, though I doubt you'll give in. But, it's worth a shot. We'll see...

VTL Hats for claim
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12/16/2013 11:03:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:02:46 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
I am Tracker. I win with Town.

Why early claim something that can be of value?
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Aloke
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12/16/2013 11:21:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:18:28 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Slight scum read on Aloke.

;)

VTL Sketchin. I don't like inactives.
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12/16/2013 11:44:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:21:25 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:18:28 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Slight scum read on Aloke.

;)

VTL Sketchin. I don't like inactives.

Sketch was scum. That hardly counts.
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12/16/2013 11:46:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:42:22 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:02:46 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
I am Tracker. I win with Town.

Why? You saw all the good it did you in the last game.

Which is exactly why I town read him.
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12/16/2013 11:48:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Am I to assume that you want to proceed with RVS?

Personally, I would like to hear from Crypto. His role has a town and a scum equivalent, so that's suspect in and of itself, but what I really want to know is how he thought claiming immediately and without pressure could possibly benefit the town.

The only thing that we know about him is that he's not TP. Tracker is role-confirmable, if not town-confirmable, and there's no way TP could fake it.
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12/16/2013 11:48:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:44:01 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:21:25 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:18:28 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Slight scum read on Aloke.

;)

VTL Sketchin. I don't like inactives.

Sketchin was scum. That hardly counts.

The only other option is you atm.

If Sketchin shows activity, I will unvote.
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12/16/2013 11:49:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:48:57 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:44:01 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:21:25 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:18:28 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Slight scum read on Aloke.

;)

VTL Sketchin. I don't like inactives.

Sketchin was scum. That hardly counts.

The only other option is you atm.

If Sketchin shows activity, I will unvote.

What perceived list of options are you choosing from?
Hatstand
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12/16/2013 11:51:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:46:56 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:42:22 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:02:46 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
I am Tracker. I win with Town.

Why? You saw all the good it did you in the last game.

Which is exactly why I town read him.

WIFOM. He should have learnt that it would not benefit the town. He might have thought that repeating town his behaviour would get him town read. That's why I want to hear him justify it.
Aloke
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12/16/2013 11:53:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:49:39 PM, Hatstand wrote:
What perceived list of options are you choosing from?

You're right. You and Sketch aren't the only options. I just don't see a reason to vote for anybody else right now.

My vote is for inactivity, but if Sketch becomes active, I will unvote. So if she was only inactive because she was mafia last game, she should have no problem getting me to unvote if she's town this game.
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12/16/2013 11:54:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:41:38 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Oracle

Why did you give in so quickly...you never do that

Unvote

I'll be back on tomorrow. Adios!
Live Long and Prosper

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Hatstand
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12/16/2013 11:54:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:53:04 PM, Aloke wrote:

You're right. You and Sketch aren't the only options. I just don't see a reason to vote for anybody else right now.

My vote is for inactivity, but if Sketch becomes active, I will unvote. So if she was only inactive because she was mafia last game, she should have no problem getting me to unvote if she's town this game.

How would you suggest we start the DP, assuming that Sketch shows up?
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12/16/2013 11:55:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:54:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:41:38 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Oracle

Why did you give in so quickly...you never do that

Unvote

I'll be back on tomorrow. Adios!

Because right now you have no good reason to trust me. I know when not to push things.
bsh1
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12/16/2013 11:59:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:55:09 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:54:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:41:38 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Oracle

Why did you give in so quickly...you never do that

Unvote

I'll be back on tomorrow. Adios!

Because right now you have no good reason to trust me. I know when not to push things.

That's not the Hats I'm used to--I'll reevaluate with fresh eyes tomorrow though.
Live Long and Prosper

I'm a Bish.


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"[Bsh1] is the Guinan of DDO." - ButterCatX

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Khaos_Mage
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12/17/2013 12:02:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:58:16 PM, Zaradi wrote:
@Khaos: Were all roles randomized?

Yes.
Roles were randomly generated and randomly assigned, just like last game using the teams' respective lists.
Any flavors, hidden or otherwise, were not.
My work here is, finally, done.
Hatstand
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12/17/2013 12:05:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/16/2013 11:59:50 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:55:09 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:54:13 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 12/16/2013 11:41:38 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Oracle

Why did you give in so quickly...you never do that

Unvote

I'll be back on tomorrow. Adios!

Because right now you have no good reason to trust me. I know when not to push things.

That's not the Hats I'm used to--I'll reevaluate with fresh eyes tomorrow though.

Usually I refuse to claim because people can generally townread me when I'm town, so there's no point in handing out my role. In the last game you all townread me. I had a feeling that no matter how I acted, I was going to be under extreme suspicion. Think about what I told you: the times to back down are when your doing so will prevent or allow a lynch. I wouldn't put it past the town to mislynch me out of paranoia, so my backing down was me preventing a mislynch.