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Khaos_Mage
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1/4/2014 12:50:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Welcome to Epic Rap Battles of History Mafia.
The standard rules apply, save for one:


MAFIA DO NOT WIN AT 50% PLAYER TOTAL.
They must play until they are assured victory.

So, let's begin, shall we:

Living Players:
1. Solon
2. YAY
3. lannan13
4. TNO5
5.NotReallySmart
6.Bullish
7. Beginner
8. DetectableNinja
9. bsh1
10. Lucky
11. Zaradi
12. TUF

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
This DP ends no later than 1 PM Jan 7.
My work here is, finally, done.
Zaradi
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1/4/2014 12:57:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Mestari/Lucky

Mestari is always scum. If he's not scum, then he's town. And if he's town, he's lying and is scum.
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1/4/2014 1:33:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

^
The public wants to know.
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1/4/2014 1:34:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

he closed his old account down named mestari and started back up this new account named Lucky_Luciano
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TUF
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1/4/2014 1:34:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:33:14 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

^
The public wants to know.

Have your played mafia before?
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TUF
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1/4/2014 1:36:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Khaos, by "assured victory" do you mean until the entire town is desolated?
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SolonKR
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1/4/2014 1:37:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:34:59 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:33:14 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

^
The public wants to know.

Have you played mafia before?

Not sure what poor newscaster imitations have to do with having played mafia before, but yes, I have.

VTL TUF
for character claim
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TUF
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1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:37:04 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:34:59 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:33:14 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

^
The public wants to know.

Have you played mafia before?

Not sure what poor newscaster imitations have to do with having played mafia before,

What??

but yes, I have.

Here on DDO?


VTL TUF
for character claim

Ben Franklin.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
Bullish
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1/4/2014 1:43:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:34:19 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

he closed his old account down named mestari and started back up this new account named Lucky_Luciano

Ok I see.
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Khaos_Mage
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1/4/2014 1:49:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:36:50 PM, TUF wrote:
Khaos, by "assured victory" do you mean until the entire town is desolated?

No, just that it must be statistically impossible for mafia to lose, given any town roles available to them.

For example, let's say it is 2:2 going into the NP and town has redirector. Redirector redirects mafia NK to mafia. It is now 2:1 adv town come DP.

This is not to be construed that there is or is not a redirector of either affiliation in this game.
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Zaradi
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1/4/2014 1:49:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Honestly I think mass claiming might be a good idea. Try to get some kind of idea as to who is scum and who is town through the character trend. Because I can't think of any kind of distinction that would separate town ERBOHs from scum ERBOHs.
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1/4/2014 1:49:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:36:50 PM, TUF wrote:
Khaos, by "assured victory" do you mean until the entire town is desolated?

@TUF - I'm assuming it probably has something to do with certain town roles
@solon - How much mafia have you played on DDO thus far?
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Zaradi
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1/4/2014 1:51:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Actually, just kidding. I think I have an idea but I need more claims to work off of since two is hardly enough to get a trend.
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Zaradi
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1/4/2014 1:52:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:49:59 PM, Beginner wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:36:50 PM, TUF wrote:
Khaos, by "assured victory" do you mean until the entire town is desolated?

@TUF - I'm assuming it probably has something to do with certain town roles
@solon - How much mafia have you played on DDO thus far?

He's just in the beginner's series going on now.
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1/4/2014 1:53:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:49:12 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:36:50 PM, TUF wrote:
Khaos, by "assured victory" do you mean until the entire town is desolated?

No, just that it must be statistically impossible for mafia to lose, given any town roles available to them.

For example, let's say it is 2:2 going into the NP and town has redirector. Redirector redirects mafia NK to mafia. It is now 2:1 adv town come DP.

This is not to be construed that there is or is not a redirector of either affiliation in this game.

Gotcha.
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SolonKR
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1/4/2014 1:53:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:37:04 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:34:59 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:33:14 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

^
The public wants to know.

Have you played mafia before?

Not sure what poor newscaster imitations have to do with having played mafia before,

What??


Y'know how in all of the terrible movies from the 90s, the newscasters would always be like "The public needs to know" or whatever.

but yes, I have.

Here on DDO?

Yup.


VTL TUF
for character claim

Ben Franklin.

Unvote
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1/4/2014 1:55:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:45:43 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM, TUF wrote:

Ben Franklin.

Do we have a Billy Mays?

Are you suggesting someone's innocence or guilt is based off of their counter part rapper being in the game? If so how would you discern affiliation from that? If not why ask?
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Zaradi
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1/4/2014 1:56:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:55:33 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:45:43 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM, TUF wrote:

Ben Franklin.

Do we have a Billy Mays?

Are you suggesting someone's innocence or guilt is based off of their counter part rapper being in the game? If so how would you discern affiliation from that? If not why ask?

Could lead to understanding of the theme and how the roles break down (i.e. only rappers who their counterparts are in are town/scum). It's a valid question.
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1/4/2014 1:57:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:53:58 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:37:04 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:34:59 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:33:14 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:07:40 PM, Bullish wrote:
Why is he called Mestari?

^
The public wants to know.

Have you played mafia before?

Not sure what poor newscaster imitations have to do with having played mafia before,

What??


Y'know how in all of the terrible movies from the 90s, the newscasters would always be like "The public needs to know" or whatever.

Oh. There wasn't a link between your statement and my question. I was simply responding to you to ask you specifically.

but yes, I have.

Here on DDO?

Yup.



VTL TUF
for character claim

Ben Franklin.

Unvote
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1/4/2014 1:59:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I hear Hatstand was amazing mafia.. and that solon is good with fake claiming.. i wouldn't be surprised if our mass claims would include several fake ones.
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1/4/2014 1:59:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:56:43 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:55:33 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:45:43 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM, TUF wrote:

Ben Franklin.

Do we have a Billy Mays?

Are you suggesting someone's innocence or guilt is based off of their counter part rapper being in the game? If so how would you discern affiliation from that? If not why ask?

Could lead to understanding of the theme and how the roles break down (i.e. only rappers who their counterparts are in are town/scum). It's a valid question.

I asked him thanks. Why do you feel the need to answer for him?
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Zaradi
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1/4/2014 2:00:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:59:12 PM, Beginner wrote:
I hear Hatstand was amazing mafia.. and that solon is good with fake claiming.. i wouldn't be surprised if our mass claims would include several fake ones.

They'd include fake ones regardless of who's mafia. The point would be to force them to be BAD fake-claims so that once we have information as too how the game was designed we can easily spot said fake-claims and find the scum.
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1/4/2014 2:01:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 1:59:46 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:56:43 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:55:33 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:45:43 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:42:39 PM, TUF wrote:

Ben Franklin.

Do we have a Billy Mays?

Are you suggesting someone's innocence or guilt is based off of their counter part rapper being in the game? If so how would you discern affiliation from that? If not why ask?

Could lead to understanding of the theme and how the roles break down (i.e. only rappers who their counterparts are in are town/scum). It's a valid question.

I asked him thanks. Why do you feel the need to answer for him?

Because a) I agree with the question being asked and think that it should be asked and that b) I therefore didn't understand your questioning of him so I wanted to reply to get your insight on it.
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1/4/2014 2:02:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 2:00:14 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:59:12 PM, Beginner wrote:
I hear Hatstand was amazing mafia.. and that solon is good with fake claiming.. i wouldn't be surprised if our mass claims would include several fake ones.

They'd include fake ones regardless of who's mafia. The point would be to force them to be BAD fake-claims so that once we have information as too how the game was designed we can easily spot said fake-claims and find the scum.

What would you consider a bad fake claim?
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1/4/2014 2:02:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org...
There are literally 78 possible roles. I think it'd be fair to assume the rap battle character counterparts may not necessarily be in the role pool. That said, there are 78 roles that can be used for fake claiming, I wouldn't leave off a person just for his/her role being protagonistic
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1/4/2014 2:03:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/4/2014 2:02:15 PM, TUF wrote:
At 1/4/2014 2:00:14 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 1/4/2014 1:59:12 PM, Beginner wrote:
I hear Hatstand was amazing mafia.. and that solon is good with fake claiming.. i wouldn't be surprised if our mass claims would include several fake ones.

They'd include fake ones regardless of who's mafia. The point would be to force them to be BAD fake-claims so that once we have information as too how the game was designed we can easily spot said fake-claims and find the scum.

What would you consider a bad fake claim?

A fake-claim that sticks out against the trend of sound claims that we know are town either from POE or flipping town. If you're asking for specific examples from this theme I don't know, hence wanting to know more about the theme.
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