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1/9/2014 7:01:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Died in the night:

Zaradi:
You are Magneto - As a survivor of the Holocaust, you know how evil men can be. You founded the Brotherhood of Mutants to end the tyranny of man and usher in a peaceful age for all mutant kind. With your helmet which repels psychic energy, along with a mastery of metallic substances and their magnetic fields, you are BULLETPROOF. Each night, you are automatically protected from death. You win with the mutants (town).

Previously dead:
Crypto - TP - modified survivor - Lynched DP2
PotBelliedGeek - Cop - Town - NP1

Living Players:

1. Aloke
2. Sparkies
3. bsh1
4. SolonKR
5. Yay842
6. TN05
7. Hatstand

With seven players alive, it takes four to lynch.
This DP ends no later than Jan/12/14
My work here is, finally, done.
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1/9/2014 7:07:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
If Zaradi is protected from death tjen how on earth did he die?
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1/9/2014 7:08:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:07:32 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
If Zaradi is protected from death tjen how on earth did he die?

I'm guessing Strongman. That would explain why you died the first time around too, despite the call for protection.
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1/9/2014 7:09:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:08:34 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:07:32 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
If Zaradi is protected from death tjen how on earth did he die?

I'm guessing Strongman. That would explain why you died the first time around too, despite the call for protection.

What's that?
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1/9/2014 7:10:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:09:12 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:08:34 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:07:32 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
If Zaradi is protected from death tjen how on earth did he die?

I'm guessing Strongman. That would explain why you died the first time around too, despite the call for protection.

What's that?

Strongman is a mafia role. Any kill performed by a Strongman cannot be prevented, except by not being there (bus driving or commuting).
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1/9/2014 7:13:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:06:55 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Yay, didn't you bond to Crypto? Why are you still alive?

or did I? wait, who told you that. I lied to figure whether he was mafia or not. my real target was what i told to Khaos in which i accidentally forgot and he gave me a random target
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1/9/2014 7:14:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
and i noticed Pots accidentally told everyone that we're lovers so whatever, i bonded with Pots
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1/9/2014 7:15:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:14:34 PM, yay842 wrote:
and i noticed Pots accidentally told everyone that we're lovers so whatever, i bonded with Pots

Sorry.
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1/9/2014 7:17:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:15:28 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:14:34 PM, yay842 wrote:
and i noticed Pots accidentally told everyone that we're lovers so whatever, i bonded with Pots

Sorry.

well we were gonna blurt it out anyway
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1/9/2014 7:18:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:17:17 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:15:28 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:14:34 PM, yay842 wrote:
and i noticed Pots accidentally told everyone that we're lovers so whatever, i bonded with Pots

Sorry.

well we were gonna blurt it out anyway

I guwss it goes without saying that I can confirm yay as town.
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1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

Otherwise

1. Pots 2 - conformed via PM
2. Sparkies
3. bsh1 - confirmed via wincon
4. SolonKR
5. Yay842 - confirmed via PM
6. TN05 - confirmed via exact phrasing of wincon, plus role confirmed by me.
7. Hatstand - visited TN last night. I can tell you. Who visited him and confirm myself.

Does anyone see any problems here? Otherwise our scumteam is Sparkies, and Solon.

Good game, people.
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1/9/2014 7:20:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If they lied in the announcement PM, that is.
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1/9/2014 7:27:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well, as I announce last DP, I am the Vigilante.
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1/9/2014 7:27:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:20:56 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If they lied in the announcement PM, that is.
Two questions. First, I don't quite follow the modkill request. Why would we be modkilled for lying about being lovers?
Second, I am trying to wrap my head around these terms. Based on the numbers, we are at MYLO atm, correct?
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1/9/2014 7:32:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:27:51 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:56 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If they lied in the announcement PM, that is.
Two questions. First, I don't quite follow the modkill request. Why would we be modkilled for lying about being lovers?

It's a modkillable offence for scum to post in the announcement PM with the intention of misleading the town. That post clearly indicated that you were both town ( the mafia know that you've bonded to a townie), so you wouldn't have said that to each other if you are scum. Therefore, if you are scum it would have had to be deliberate.

If you are town, you have nothing to worry about. If you're scum, then you should worry.

Second, I am trying to wrap my head around these terms. Based on the numbers, we are at MYLO atm, correct?

No. 1 TP almost definitely means 2 scum, especially given the fact that every player except two are confirmed. If there were three scum left then today would have been LYLO.
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1/9/2014 7:35:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
@hats, is crypto's lynch advantageous to scum or not? If scum was better off with survivor alive, that explained why solon blocked his lynch during DP one.

This scenario raises two questions. How would scum know his role? And why did solon vtl crypto next DP?

@khaos: do TP and scum share a PM?
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1/9/2014 7:39:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:35:24 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
@hats, is crypto's lynch advantageous to scum or not? If scum was better off with survivor alive, that explained why solon blocked his lynch during DP one.

It's better for the mafia if the TP is dead. However, it's also a scum tactic to oppose a townie lynch to try to get town cred. Solon wouldn't have known that Crypto was scum.

This scenario raises two questions. How would scum know his role? And why did solon vtl crypto next DP?

@khaos: do TP and scum share a PM?

No, they do not.
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1/9/2014 7:39:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:32:45 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:27:51 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:56 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If they lied in the announcement PM, that is.
Two questions. First, I don't quite follow the modkill request. Why would we be modkilled for lying about being lovers?

It's a modkillable offence for scum to post in the announcement PM with the intention of misleading the town. That post clearly indicated that you were both town ( the mafia know that you've bonded to a townie), so you wouldn't have said that to each other if you are scum. Therefore, if you are scum it would have had to be deliberate.

If you are town, you have nothing to worry about. If you're scum, then you should worry.

Second, I am trying to wrap my head around these terms. Based on the numbers, we are at MYLO atm, correct?

No. 1 TP almost definitely means 2 scum, especially given the fact that every player except two are confirmed. If there were three scum left then today would have been LYLO.

Then I guess I don't exactly understand the term yet. What would be MYLO?
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1/9/2014 7:39:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

Otherwise

1. Pots 2 - conformed via PM
2. Sparkies
3. bsh1 - confirmed via wincon
4. SolonKR
5. Yay842 - confirmed via PM
6. TN05 - confirmed via exact phrasing of wincon, plus role confirmed by me.
7. Hatstand - visited TN last night. I can tell you. Who visited him and confirm myself.

Does anyone see any problems here? Otherwise our scumteam is Sparkies, and Solon.

Good game, people.

such logic, much doge... can you explain the 7 points?
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1/9/2014 7:41:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:39:52 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

Otherwise

1. Pots 2 - conformed via PM
2. Sparkies
3. bsh1 - confirmed via wincon
4. SolonKR
5. Yay842 - confirmed via PM
6. TN05 - confirmed via exact phrasing of wincon, plus role confirmed by me.
7. Hatstand - visited TN last night. I can tell you. Who visited him and confirm myself.

Does anyone see any problems here? Otherwise our scumteam is Sparkies, and Solon.

Good game, people.

such logic, much doge... can you explain the 7 points?

I copied the list from Khaos's opening post. I didn't bother to remove the numbers.
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1/9/2014 7:41:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:35:24 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
@hats, is crypto's lynch advantageous to scum or not? If scum was better off with survivor alive, that explained why solon blocked his lynch during DP one.

This scenario raises two questions. How would scum know his role? And why did solon vtl crypto next DP?

@khaos: do TP and scum share a PM?

No.
And TP are scum.
Scum is mafia and TP.
Mafia work as a group, while TP work by themselves.
My work here is, finally, done.
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1/9/2014 7:42:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:39:40 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:32:45 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:27:51 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:56 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If they lied in the announcement PM, that is.
Two questions. First, I don't quite follow the modkill request. Why would we be modkilled for lying about being lovers?

It's a modkillable offence for scum to post in the announcement PM with the intention of misleading the town. That post clearly indicated that you were both town ( the mafia know that you've bonded to a townie), so you wouldn't have said that to each other if you are scum. Therefore, if you are scum it would have had to be deliberate.

If you are town, you have nothing to worry about. If you're scum, then you should worry.

Second, I am trying to wrap my head around these terms. Based on the numbers, we are at MYLO atm, correct?

No. 1 TP almost definitely means 2 scum, especially given the fact that every player except two are confirmed. If there were three scum left then today would have been LYLO.

Then I guess I don't exactly understand the term yet. What would be MYLO?

When there are two more town than mafia.
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1/9/2014 7:46:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If Pots and Yay were the scum team, they would be modkilled if there was any inlking that this was their intention. If however, I deem it an honest mistake (since if they are both scum, they would be in the same PM, and accidentally using the wrong thread happens from time to time...), they will not be killed.

Further, if they were both town and lovers, and this was their plan to use the announcements thread on purpose, they, too, would be modkilled.

I deem the act in question as an accidental use of the wrong PM, and as such, should not be treated as a mod confirming of anything.
My work here is, finally, done.
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1/9/2014 7:51:32 PM
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At 1/9/2014 7:45:16 PM, Zaradi wrote:
So much for being bulletproof.

dam, that really sucks
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1/9/2014 7:51:59 PM
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At 1/9/2014 7:46:54 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If Pots and Yay were the scum team, they would be modkilled if there was any inlking that this was their intention. If however, I deem it an honest mistake (since if they are both scum, they would be in the same PM, and accidentally using the wrong thread happens from time to time...), they will not be killed.

Further, if they were both town and lovers, and this was their plan to use the announcements thread on purpose, they, too, would be modkilled.

I deem the act in question as an accidental use of the wrong PM, and as such, should not be treated as a mod confirming of anything.

Right. I forgot the possibility that Pots could be scum and lying through his teeth to Yay. We should take this as a confirmation of Yay, at least. I can't see scum saying that to one another.
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1/9/2014 7:58:21 PM
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At 1/9/2014 7:51:59 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:46:54 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If Pots and Yay were the scum team, they would be modkilled if there was any inlking that this was their intention. If however, I deem it an honest mistake (since if they are both scum, they would be in the same PM, and accidentally using the wrong thread happens from time to time...), they will not be killed.

Further, if they were both town and lovers, and this was their plan to use the announcements thread on purpose, they, too, would be modkilled.

I deem the act in question as an accidental use of the wrong PM, and as such, should not be treated as a mod confirming of anything.

Right. I forgot the possibility that Pots could be scum and lying through his teeth to Yay. We should take this as a confirmation of Yay, at least. I can't see scum saying that to one another.

so your evaluation of Sparkies and Solon as scumteam?
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1/9/2014 7:59:10 PM
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If we mislynch today, we go to (4:2) for the NP. A double NK would take us to (2:2), but if Pots is scum then they can't pull a double kill, so we end up at (3:2), we lynch correctly, go to (2:1) and then lynch Pots going to (1).

If we lynch correctly today, and Pots is also scum, again, he can't pull a double NK. We will go to (5:1), mislynch the remaining townie, taking us to (3:1), where we lynch Pots going to (2).

If Pots is town, we lynch Solon and Sparkies, and the game is over. We go to (3:1) after the NP with the double NK and then lynch again.

I really can't see how this could go wrong.
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1/9/2014 7:59:59 PM
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At 1/9/2014 7:58:21 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:51:59 PM, Hatstand wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:46:54 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 1/9/2014 7:20:14 PM, Hatstand wrote:
Khaos, if Pots and Yay are scum and lying to be town confirmed, I expect a modkill.

If Pots and Yay were the scum team, they would be modkilled if there was any inlking that this was their intention. If however, I deem it an honest mistake (since if they are both scum, they would be in the same PM, and accidentally using the wrong thread happens from time to time...), they will not be killed.

Further, if they were both town and lovers, and this was their plan to use the announcements thread on purpose, they, too, would be modkilled.

I deem the act in question as an accidental use of the wrong PM, and as such, should not be treated as a mod confirming of anything.

Right. I forgot the possibility that Pots could be scum and lying through his teeth to Yay. We should take this as a confirmation of Yay, at least. I can't see scum saying that to one another.

so your evaluation of Sparkies and Solon as scumteam?

See my evaluation in my last post.