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1/11/2014 8:41:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Died in the night:

Hatstand:
You are Jean Grey - With your telepathic and telekinetic powers, you often are able to create an invisible shield. Using this power, you are the DOCTOR. Each night, you may select one player and they will be protected from death. You win with the mutants (town).

Previously dead:
Zaradi - BP - town - NP2
Crypto - TP - modified survivor - Lynched DP2
PotBelliedGeek - Cop - Town - NP1

Living Players:

1. Aloke
2. Sparkies
3. bsh1
4. SolonKR
5. Yay842
6. TN05

With six players alive, it takes four to lynch.
This DP ends no later than 9 AM Jan/14/14
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1/11/2014 9:17:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 8:47:25 AM, Sparkies wrote:
Can we get an updated claims lost? And i wont be on till another 12 hrs as im going to bed

Could you please explain why we could not lynch you?
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1/11/2014 9:59:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 9:17:59 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 8:47:25 AM, Sparkies wrote:
Can we get an updated claims lost? And i wont be on till another 12 hrs as im going to bed

Could you please explain why we could not lynch you?

Yea what the heck happened there?
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1/11/2014 10:56:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Alright, this changes things a lot. We are working with the assumption that there are two scum, so here is the spread.

There are six of us alive: four town, two scum.

I already have the scum team pegged as solon and sparkies. This is of course from my view point, as i am not confirmed.

We have already established that if I am town, and I am misslynched, Scum wins.
a misslynch today will take us to 2-2, scum wins. The only way for us to win is if we lynch scum. I think everyone here agrees that sparkies is scum. Why he was not lynched, I don't know. seeing as this is the balanced game in this program, I doubt chaos made an unlynchable mafioso, as it would be impossible for us win. The other two scenarios is that Hats protected him, or that he was somehow protected from only one lynch. Either way, he has lost his protection. Therefore, I VTL sparkies . If I am worng and this does not work, that will take us to 3-2 and we will have another chance.

Anyone see any flaws with this?
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1/11/2014 11:33:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Because people have asked:
https://docs.google.com...

The above link is a substantial list of available roles, compiled by Drafterman.
Feel free to peruse the list, and see the countless possibilities that are available in mafia games.
And, again, that is assuming there are roles in this game that are on this list. Obviously, Crypto's TP role was not.
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1/11/2014 1:39:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 10:56:39 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Alright, this changes things a lot. We are working with the assumption that there are two scum, so here is the spread.

There are six of us alive: four town, two scum.

I already have the scum team pegged as solon and sparkies. This is of course from my view point, as i am not confirmed.

We have already established that if I am town, and I am misslynched, Scum wins.
a misslynch today will take us to 2-2, scum wins. The only way for us to win is if we lynch scum. I think everyone here agrees that sparkies is scum. Why he was not lynched, I don't know. seeing as this is the balanced game in this program, I doubt chaos made an unlynchable mafioso, as it would be impossible for us win. The other two scenarios is that Hats protected him, or that he was somehow protected from only one lynch. Either way, he has lost his protection. Therefore, I VTL sparkies . If I am worng and this does not work, that will take us to 3-2 and we will have another chance.

Anyone see any flaws with this?

Nope, no flaws to me.

VTL Sparkies
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1/11/2014 1:50:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:33:46 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Because people have asked:
https://docs.google.com...

The above link is a substantial list of available roles, compiled by Drafterman.
Feel free to peruse the list, and see the countless possibilities that are available in mafia games.
And, again, that is assuming there are roles in this game that are on this list. Obviously, Crypto's TP role was not.

ok, has there ever been an unkillable mafia before?
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1/11/2014 2:09:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 1:50:29 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:33:46 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Because people have asked:
https://docs.google.com...

The above link is a substantial list of available roles, compiled by Drafterman.
Feel free to peruse the list, and see the countless possibilities that are available in mafia games.
And, again, that is assuming there are roles in this game that are on this list. Obviously, Crypto's TP role was not.

ok, has there ever been an unkillable mafia before?

Probably, and that is, what is called, unbalanced. Since, if a mafia is unkillable, than town cannot win. However, an unkillable townie can be balanced, since not all townies need to die.
Want to see an unbalanced game? Look at Lannan's DDO mafia.

This is where mod psychology and balance are helpful to analyze.
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1/11/2014 3:01:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 10:56:39 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Alright, this changes things a lot. We are working with the assumption that there are two scum, so here is the spread.

There are six of us alive: four town, two scum.

I already have the scum team pegged as solon and sparkies. This is of course from my view point, as i am not confirmed.

We have already established that if I am town, and I am misslynched, Scum wins.
a misslynch today will take us to 2-2, scum wins. The only way for us to win is if we lynch scum. I think everyone here agrees that sparkies is scum. Why he was not lynched, I don't know. seeing as this is the balanced game in this program, I doubt chaos made an unlynchable mafioso, as it would be impossible for us win. The other two scenarios is that Hats protected him, or that he was somehow protected from only one lynch. Either way, he has lost his protection. Therefore, I VTL sparkies . If I am worng and this does not work, that will take us to 3-2 and we will have another chance.

Anyone see any flaws with this?

somehow i feel this plan has gone awry where somehow Sparkies has a- wait for it... another LYNCH PROTECTION
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1/11/2014 3:04:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 2:09:53 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 1/11/2014 1:50:29 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:33:46 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Because people have asked:
https://docs.google.com...

The above link is a substantial list of available roles, compiled by Drafterman.
Feel free to peruse the list, and see the countless possibilities that are available in mafia games.
And, again, that is assuming there are roles in this game that are on this list. Obviously, Crypto's TP role was not.

ok, has there ever been an unkillable mafia before?

Probably, and that is, what is called, unbalanced. Since, if a mafia is unkillable, than town cannot win. However, an unkillable townie can be balanced, since not all townies need to die.
Want to see an unbalanced game? Look at Lannan's DDO mafia.

This is where mod psychology and balance are helpful to analyze.

However, I should point out that unkillable means being permanently unlynchable, bulletproof, and immune to reactive deaths (e.g. hunter, bomb, lover, super saint, etc.). That does not mean that mafia could not have one of these traits, or a 1x of them, or an odd/even flavor.

This is not to be interpreted as evidence of the existence of said flavor, affilation, or anything else present in this game. I am merely commenting on the question, since the two ringers are dead.
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1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?
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1/11/2014 6:55:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

wow, like just... -.- wow
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1/11/2014 6:56:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
shouldnt we lynch solon instead in case sparkie has more than one unlynchable? unless no, then we just need bsh
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1/11/2014 7:09:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 6:56:58 PM, yay842 wrote:
shouldnt we lynch solon instead in case sparkie has more than one unlynchable? unless no, then we just need bsh

do it. I dare you to ;) Bsh1 get on plz
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1/11/2014 7:10:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:09:38 PM, Sparkies wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:56:58 PM, yay842 wrote:
shouldnt we lynch solon instead in case sparkie has more than one unlynchable? unless no, then we just need bsh

do it. I dare you to ;) Bsh1 get on plz

omg, hes f*cking with my mind, bsh youre genius think hard bout dis
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1/11/2014 7:11:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?

yea you could lynch me, it looks like theres nothing I can say to prevent my lynch at all so w/e but Im not hammering my self. Hint (Look at previous beginers game)
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1/11/2014 7:15:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:11:43 PM, Sparkies wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?

yea you could lynch me, it looks like theres nothing I can say to prevent my lynch at all so w/e but Im not hammering my self. Hint (Look at previous beginers game)

Ladies and gents, it is safe to say that we caught ourselves a scumbag. However, he seems too eager for us to lynch him, So im going to unvote and VTL solon instead. Everyone else is confirmed, and I am 100% positive about solon being scum.
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1/11/2014 7:21:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:20:51 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Vote Count:

Sparkies (2/4) - TN05, Yay
Solon (2/4) - Sparkies, PotBelliedGeek

um i voted bsh1 :P
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1/11/2014 7:22:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Vote Count:

Sparkies (2/4) - TN05, Yay
bsh1 (1/4) - Sparkies
Solon (1/4) - PotBelliedGeek

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1/11/2014 7:23:42 PM
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omg, no wait Sparkies using reverse psychology, i think,, i dont know, omg, we need bsh
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1/11/2014 7:26:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:15:41 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:11:43 PM, Sparkies wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?

yea you could lynch me, it looks like theres nothing I can say to prevent my lynch at all so w/e but Im not hammering my self. Hint (Look at previous beginers game)

Ladies and gents, it is safe to say that we caught ourselves a scumbag. However, he seems too eager for us to lynch him, So im going to unvote and VTL solon instead. Everyone else is confirmed, and I am 100% positive about solon being scum.

we know 99% for sure Solon and Sparkies is scum but we dont know what their PR is and we dont know if Sparkies could stop another lynch
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1/11/2014 7:28:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:26:29 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:15:41 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:11:43 PM, Sparkies wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?

yea you could lynch me, it looks like theres nothing I can say to prevent my lynch at all so w/e but Im not hammering my self. Hint (Look at previous beginers game)

Ladies and gents, it is safe to say that we caught ourselves a scumbag. However, he seems too eager for us to lynch him, So im going to unvote and VTL solon instead. Everyone else is confirmed, and I am 100% positive about solon being scum.

we know 99% for sure Solon and Sparkies is scum but we dont know what their PR is and we dont know if Sparkies could stop another lynch

What do you suggest we do? I will vote sparkies again if it really looks like we can lynch him.
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1/11/2014 7:31:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:28:49 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:26:29 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:15:41 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:11:43 PM, Sparkies wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?

yea you could lynch me, it looks like theres nothing I can say to prevent my lynch at all so w/e but Im not hammering my self. Hint (Look at previous beginers game)

Ladies and gents, it is safe to say that we caught ourselves a scumbag. However, he seems too eager for us to lynch him, So im going to unvote and VTL solon instead. Everyone else is confirmed, and I am 100% positive about solon being scum.

we know 99% for sure Solon and Sparkies is scum but we dont know what their PR is and we dont know if Sparkies could stop another lynch

What do you suggest we do? I will vote sparkies again if it really looks like we can lynch him.

i dont know if that unlynchable is a one time thing or forever
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1/11/2014 7:35:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 7:31:05 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:28:49 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:26:29 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:15:41 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 7:11:43 PM, Sparkies wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:55:15 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 1/11/2014 6:53:49 PM, Sparkies wrote:
Meh let get this pver with. VTL BSH1

Is this an admission of guilt? Care to explain why we could lynch you?

yea you could lynch me, it looks like theres nothing I can say to prevent my lynch at all so w/e but Im not hammering my self. Hint (Look at previous beginers game)

Ladies and gents, it is safe to say that we caught ourselves a scumbag. However, he seems too eager for us to lynch him, So im going to unvote and VTL solon instead. Everyone else is confirmed, and I am 100% positive about solon being scum.

we know 99% for sure Solon and Sparkies is scum but we dont know what their PR is and we dont know if Sparkies could stop another lynch

What do you suggest we do? I will vote sparkies again if it really looks like we can lynch him.

i dont know if that unlynchable is a one time thing or forever

I highly doubt it is forever. But he is really pushing to be lynched this DP, and I dont really buy the reverse psychology thing. It seems more like he took an action to protect himself this DP. I propose lynching his scumbuddy, who is obviously Solon, as a sort of "surprise", then we lynch sparkies next DP.
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