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Beginner's Mafia 19.2: DP1

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1/16/2014 4:28:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION - Third Parties and Misinformation

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Depending on the game and the mod, third parties win by themselves, when certain conditions are met, or can win with either the Town or the Mafia.

This game also introduces the concept of flavors. Flavors are the adjectives of Mafia, altering how roles work. Here are some common flavors:

Even/Odd - Roles with these modifiers can only work on Even or Odd-numbered Night Phases
X-Shot - Roles with these modifiers can only be used X number of times.

(these flavors are usually made known to the player.)

Paranoid - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Guitly-type results. For Doctors, they role-block their target.
Naive - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Innocent-type results. For Doctors and other non-investigative roles, they do nothing.
Insane - For Cops, they receive results opposite of the Truth

(these flavors may be concealed from the player by the mod(s).)
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1/16/2014 4:34:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
SET-UP:

The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:

TOWN

Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Coroner - Can learn the affiliation and role of a dead player.
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Ascetic - Cannot be targeted by non-lethal actions.
Commuter - Cannot be targeted at night.
Sidekick - Redirects non-lethal actions from another player to himself.
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Cop, Doctor, Vigilante
Pacifist - may not place votes on people at L-1

MAFIA

Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Role Stealer- Can permanently steal and use another player's role.
Ascetic - Same as Town.
Bus Driver - Switches the actions performed on two players.
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Role Cop, Role Block, Frame
Commuter - Same as Town.
Framer - Can make another player investigate as non-Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Rolestopper - Can make another player immune to non-lethal actions.
Godfather - Investigates as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Janitor - Can choose to hide the role and affiliation of a killed player.
Lawyer - Can make another player investigate as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Ninja - Does not appear on tracker/watcher reports.
Redirector - Can change another player's intended target.
Roleblocker - Prevents the use of another player's role.

THIRD-PARTY

Serial Killer - Each night may kill another player. Wins when all other players are dead (joint win not possible).
Survivor - Wins by surviving until another faction achieves its win condition (joint win possible).

There is a maximum of only one of each role. Roles were generated randomly, then assigned randomly.
Live Long and Prosper

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1/16/2014 4:36:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS:

Pots
TheBigF
Lannan
Jopo
Yay
DudeStop
Crypto
NightCats
Solon

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
DP ends at 6:30pm DDO time, on 1/18/14.


Good luck!
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1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.
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1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?
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1/16/2014 4:57:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Solon (1/5) - NightCats
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1/16/2014 4:58:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Sometimes people will start the games by participating in an RVS...or a random voting stage. It's designed to get some info to kickstart the conversation.
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1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?

Nope. You are very enthusiastic like I said mate. Hope that doesn't offend you.
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1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?

Nope. You are very enthusiastic like I said mate. Hope that doesn't offend you.

lol Why would it?
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1/16/2014 5:06:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?

Nope. You are very enthusiastic like I said mate. Hope that doesn't offend you.

lol Why would it?

Well you just seemed really angry. In my mind I heard:

"Was that Sarcasm?!"
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1/16/2014 5:12:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:06:36 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?

Nope. You are very enthusiastic like I said mate. Hope that doesn't offend you.

lol Why would it?

Well you just seemed really angry. In my mind I heard:

"Was that Sarcasm?!"

I read this in a sassy black women's voice. lol.

kk.

There's 9 players right?

Last game we had

6 town and 3 mafia

This game I predict it will be

5 Town,1 TP and 2 mafia

(5-1-2)

If it is

(4-2-2)

The game would be scum-sided, so a TP ruled game is unlikely,

(4-1-3)

This would place us at LYLO/MYLO today if we want to win as town.

So I bet my salt it is

5 town, 1 TP and 2 mafia
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1/16/2014 5:17:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:12:57 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:06:36 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?

Nope. You are very enthusiastic like I said mate. Hope that doesn't offend you.

lol Why would it?

Well you just seemed really angry. In my mind I heard:

"Was that Sarcasm?!"

I read this in a sassy black women's voice. lol.

kk.

There's 9 players right?

Last game we had

6 town and 3 mafia

This game I predict it will be

5 Town,1 TP and 2 mafia

(5-1-2)

If it is

(4-2-2)

The game would be scum-sided, so a TP ruled game is unlikely,

(4-1-3)

This would place us at LYLO/MYLO today if we want to win as town.

So I bet my salt it is

5 town, 1 TP and 2 mafia

Lol.

That seems reasonable. The question is... who's the mafia?!!?

(You can read that with a sassy black woman voice to...)
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1/16/2014 5:21:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:17:57 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:12:57 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:06:36 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:

Lol.


That seems reasonable. The question is... who's the mafia?!!?


(You can read that with a sassy black woman voice to...)

I'm feeling good about this game.
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1/16/2014 5:34:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:21:22 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:17:57 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:12:57 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:06:36 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:

Lol.


That seems reasonable. The question is... who's the mafia?!!?


(You can read that with a sassy black woman voice to...)

I'm feeling good about this game.

Lol it'd be funny if we lynched someone before they even got online...
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1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.
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1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.
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1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.
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1/16/2014 5:40:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.

I'll answer. But first, why me? Why not Solon? Why not DudeStop? What is the rationale behind this?
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1/16/2014 5:42:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:40:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.

I'll answer. But first, why me? Why not Solon? Why not DudeStop? What is the rationale behind this?

I already gave my reasoning.

Now role claim. Stalling is not pro-town behavior.

Also, I was already planning on VTL'ing dudestop for claim after you for reasoning I'll give later.
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1/16/2014 5:46:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:42:19 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:40:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.

I'll answer. But first, why me? Why not Solon? Why not DudeStop? What is the rationale behind this?

I already gave my reasoning.

Now role claim. Stalling is not pro-town behavior.

Also, I was already planning on VTL'ing dudestop for claim after you for reasoning I'll give later.

I'm not going to claim to a derp whose reason for wanting my claim is literally that I'm too towny.
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1/16/2014 5:51:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:46:23 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:42:19 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:40:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.

I'll answer. But first, why me? Why not Solon? Why not DudeStop? What is the rationale behind this?

I already gave my reasoning.

Now role claim. Stalling is not pro-town behavior.

Also, I was already planning on VTL'ing dudestop for claim after you for reasoning I'll give later.

I'm not going to claim to a derp whose reason for wanting my claim is literally that I'm too towny.

FOS on NTLC.

This is extremely suspicious. Honestly, little reasoning actually has to be given when VTL'ing someone to role-claim in the beginning. Its simply to get the game rolling.

The fact that you refuse to role claim either:

A) Means you have a power role.
B) You are Mafia.

The problem with A is that I already said you could soft claim and that would be sufficient when role-claiming while still protecting that you have a power role.
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1/16/2014 5:57:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:46:23 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:42:19 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:40:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.

I'll answer. But first, why me? Why not Solon? Why not DudeStop? What is the rationale behind this?

I already gave my reasoning.

Now role claim. Stalling is not pro-town behavior.

Also, I was already planning on VTL'ing dudestop for claim after you for reasoning I'll give later.

I'm not going to claim to a derp whose reason for wanting my claim is literally that I'm too towny.:

Will you claim for someone who advocates for everyone claiming in a reasonable amount of time so we can keep track of who is who without having to scroll back through the pages?
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1/16/2014 6:00:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:12:57 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:06:36 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:04:45 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:02:31 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:55:30 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:53:30 PM, DudeStop wrote:
At 1/16/2014 4:49:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
vtl Solon for a claim

You seem very enthusiastic.

Was that sarcasm?

Nope. You are very enthusiastic like I said mate. Hope that doesn't offend you.

lol Why would it?

Well you just seemed really angry. In my mind I heard:

"Was that Sarcasm?!"

I read this in a sassy black women's voice. lol.

kk.

There's 9 players right?

Last game we had

6 town and 3 mafia

This game I predict it will be

5 Town,1 TP and 2 mafia

(5-1-2)

If it is

(4-2-2)

The game would be scum-sided, so a TP ruled game is unlikely,

(4-1-3)

This would place us at LYLO/MYLO today if we want to win as town.

So I bet my salt it is

5 town, 1 TP and 2 mafia:

This is sound logic and I support it in theory just wanna confirm - it was only the first game that was like an "easier setup" right? I mean I'm just wondering if there would be a "biased" game that was slanted toward one side to encourage it to go faster?
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1/16/2014 6:06:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
And just as a probably incredibly soft claim to at least get this somewhat kicked off I'm gonna go ahead and say for this game I'll be sure to keep my eyes open during both the day and night
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1/16/2014 6:34:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2014 5:57:35 PM, jopo wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:46:23 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:42:19 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:40:52 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:38:58 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:37:51 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:36:24 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:34:31 PM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 1/16/2014 5:32:01 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
VTL Night of the Living Cats for claim

Why not Solon?

I always have suspicion against the person who leads the Townie effort. I always say sometimes the one who looks most Town is actually Mafia.

Mafia very rarely try to honestly lead town.

Role claim. Soft claim or hard, that way I'm giving you some leeway if you have a power role and are trying to avoid having to claim it.

I'll answer. But first, why me? Why not Solon? Why not DudeStop? What is the rationale behind this?

I already gave my reasoning.

Now role claim. Stalling is not pro-town behavior.

Also, I was already planning on VTL'ing dudestop for claim after you for reasoning I'll give later.

I'm not going to claim to a derp whose reason for wanting my claim is literally that I'm too towny.:

Will you claim for someone who advocates for everyone claiming in a reasonable amount of time so we can keep track of who is who without having to scroll back through the pages?

No! This is a mass claim, and is the worst thing town can do this early in the game.
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