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2/2/2014 9:01:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
DIED IN THE DAY

YYW - You are the Hunter. If lynched, you may choose another player to kill. You win with the town.

Pots - You are the Bodyguard. Each night you may select a player. Any lethal actions directed at said player shall be redirected towards you. You win with the town.

DIED IN THE NIGHT

Noumena - You are Vanilla. You have no role.

GRAVEYARD


YYW
Pots
Noumena

LIVING PLAYERS

DudeStop
XLAV
Jopo
7th
Tyler
Yay
Khaos

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 9:00pm DDO time, on 2/4/14.

Good luck!
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2/2/2014 9:07:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 9:01:09 PM, bsh1 wrote:
DIED IN THE DAY

YYW - You are the Hunter. If lynched, you may choose another player to kill. You win with the town.

Pots - You are the Bodyguard. Each night you may select a player. Any lethal actions directed at said player shall be redirected towards you. You win with the town.

DIED IN THE NIGHT

Noumena - You are Vanilla. You have no role.

GRAVEYARD


YYW
Pots
Noumena

LIVING PLAYERS

DudeStop
XLAV
Jopo
7th
Tyler
Yay
Khaos

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 9:00pm DDO time, on 2/4/14.

Good luck!

Yeah, I saw Pot's coming... Careful player my @ss.
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2/2/2014 9:07:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
CORRECTION:

Pots - You are the Sidekick. Each night you may select a player. Any non-lethal actions directed at them will be redirected towards you. You win with the town.
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2/2/2014 9:18:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Whelp now that that excuse of a super bowl is over (go Broncos next year? :/) - anyone got anything that they can/should report from the np? Let's kick this puppy off
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2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
and he was so confident that he was scum...
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2/2/2014 9:34:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 9:18:18 PM, jopo wrote:
Whelp now that that excuse of a super bowl is over (go Broncos next year? :/) - anyone got anything that they can/should report from the np? Let's kick this puppy off

Nothing from me.
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2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
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2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer.
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2/2/2014 10:22:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer.
She's*
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2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.
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2/2/2014 10:32:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.
Both the mafia or the serial killer could have killed the same guy or the mafia killed someone and you didn't so you could give the illusion that there is no SK.
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2/2/2014 10:40:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:32:20 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.
Both the mafia or the serial killer could have killed the same guy or the mafia killed someone and you didn't so you could give the illusion that there is no SK. :

While you threw out some probable scenarios they aren't likely - both sides are playing with different objectives so they view different people as targets that will best serve as means to their ends, therefore it's very unlikely they would choose the same person. Also, they may go for a no kill option, but I don't see how this would be beneficial, since both sides only win by killing others - it's just like a how a no lynch harms town, basically you're giving everyone more of an opportunity to find you. So now we see that for this to be true - these two sides either both happened to target Noumena because they both found him a threat and both killed vanilla which really takes an incredible lack of skill on their part. Or, I am serial killer and for some reason decided that there was something that posed a serious threat to me being able to kill anyone so I went with a no kill. This really just doesn't stand.
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2/2/2014 10:46:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.

"close, but not quite?" what serious proof is that? can you disprove that you are the SK?
VTL jopo
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2/2/2014 10:48:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
saying that you are not the SK means that XLAV is not the role cop
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2/2/2014 10:49:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:46:55 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.

"close, but not quite?" what serious proof is that? can you disprove that you are the SK?
VTL jopo :

"Serious proof"? Look above at my analysis about how that doesn't work, I just posted a little paragraph explaining how the kills don't add up and how XLAV's counters to that isn't realistic. What don't you buy about that?
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2/2/2014 10:49:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer.

what was your reasoning to role cop jopo?
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2/2/2014 10:49:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:48:58 PM, yay842 wrote:
saying that you are not the SK means that XLAV is not the role cop :

That's why I voted him.
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2/2/2014 10:51:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:49:07 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:46:55 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.

"close, but not quite?" what serious proof is that? can you disprove that you are the SK?
VTL jopo :

"Serious proof"? Look above at my analysis about how that doesn't work, I just posted a little paragraph explaining how the kills don't add up and how XLAV's counters to that isn't realistic. What don't you buy about that?

many time before has SK and scum killed the same target because they posed a threat. it is realistic and happened many times before
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2/2/2014 10:51:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:49:33 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer.

what was your reasoning to role cop jopo? :

It was post 13.
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2/2/2014 10:52:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
jopo, if you are the serial killer, let us know.
I will not advocate your lynch, and you'll get second place.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/2/2014 10:54:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Jopo (2/4) - XLAV, Yay
XLAV (1/4) - Jopo
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2/2/2014 10:54:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:51:03 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:49:07 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:46:55 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.

"close, but not quite?" what serious proof is that? can you disprove that you are the SK?
VTL jopo :

"Serious proof"? Look above at my analysis about how that doesn't work, I just posted a little paragraph explaining how the kills don't add up and how XLAV's counters to that isn't realistic. What don't you buy about that?

many time before has SK and scum killed the same target because they posed a threat. it is realistic and happened many times before :

But that would mean we both picked Noumena, who was vanilla. If I was SK, I would probably like to keep Noumena alive, he provided a lot of reads on characters that could help me better identify people to kill at night. Plus there were people with some semi/passive investigative roles that outed before - wouldn't it make sense to target them since they pose a direct threat to me?
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2/2/2014 10:56:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:52:18 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
jopo, if you are the serial killer, let us know.
I will not advocate your lynch, and you'll get second place. :

I'm not SK, that's why we should kill XLAV he's clearly scum because that's not my role and so he's placing a false claim on me. Please believe me - you tend to be good at piecing together good reads on people, did I play like SK? Are my claims as to how that's unlikely outrageous?
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2/2/2014 10:58:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:54:57 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:51:03 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:49:07 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:46:55 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.

"close, but not quite?" what serious proof is that? can you disprove that you are the SK?
VTL jopo :

"Serious proof"? Look above at my analysis about how that doesn't work, I just posted a little paragraph explaining how the kills don't add up and how XLAV's counters to that isn't realistic. What don't you buy about that?

many time before has SK and scum killed the same target because they posed a threat. it is realistic and happened many times before :

But that would mean we both picked Noumena, who was vanilla. If I was SK, I would probably like to keep Noumena alive, he provided a lot of reads on characters that could help me better identify people to kill at night. Plus there were people with some semi/passive investigative roles that outed before - wouldn't it make sense to target them since they pose a direct threat to me?

Noumena didnt claim Vanilla (or did he?) so there would be no way to know that he would be a useful or useless kill
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2/2/2014 10:59:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
There's too many mafia-sided roles in this game.
VTL XLAV

If he is role cop, then we'll kill jopo.
Sound good?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/2/2014 11:00:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Jopo (2/4) - XLAV, Yay
XLAV (2/4) - Jopo, Khaos
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2/2/2014 11:01:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:56:57 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:52:18 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
jopo, if you are the serial killer, let us know.
I will not advocate your lynch, and you'll get second place. :

I'm not SK, that's why we should kill XLAV he's clearly scum because that's not my role and so he's placing a false claim on me. Please believe me - you tend to be good at piecing together good reads on people, did I play like SK? Are my claims as to how that's unlikely outrageous?

1. Meh.
2. Perhaps.

So, why don't you tell us your role and action last night?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/2/2014 11:01:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:58:03 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:54:57 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:51:03 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:49:07 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:46:55 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:28:09 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:18:00 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:41:11 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM, yay842 wrote:
and he was so confident that he was scum...:

No in the pm where we aren't supposed to post he mentioned that he thought he had a way to make bsh to kill mafia, just in general. So I guess he thought he could say "Mafia I choose you!" and that didn't really happen. It wasn't that he thought he had caught one person as scum, but he thought he found a way to kill scum.
YYW wasn't able to catch a scum, but I did.

I'm the role cop, I win with the town.
VTL: Jopo
He's a serial killer. :

Lol close, but not quite. VTL XLAV. So since that's not the truth, you're obviously scum unless this is some weird "reaction test", which I doubt. If there was a serial killer, more people would've died in the night phase as both mafia and serial killer would've killed someone.

"close, but not quite?" what serious proof is that? can you disprove that you are the SK?
VTL jopo :

"Serious proof"? Look above at my analysis about how that doesn't work, I just posted a little paragraph explaining how the kills don't add up and how XLAV's counters to that isn't realistic. What don't you buy about that?

many time before has SK and scum killed the same target because they posed a threat. it is realistic and happened many times before :

But that would mean we both picked Noumena, who was vanilla. If I was SK, I would probably like to keep Noumena alive, he provided a lot of reads on characters that could help me better identify people to kill at night. Plus there were people with some semi/passive investigative roles that outed before - wouldn't it make sense to target them since they pose a direct threat to me?

Noumena didnt claim Vanilla (or did he?) so there would be no way to know that he would be a useful or useless kill :

He did not claim vanilla, but like I said there are a host of other roles that can be seem as threatening. Also, Khaos is threatening as he's yet another experienced player who I've played with before - he'll have clearer reads on me than Noumena would. All I'm trying to show is that it's not impossible that I am SK and that I and mafia both targeted Noumena, but that this is highly unlikely given the host of options that would've been available to both of us.