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2/3/2014 11:16:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION

The essence of DDO Mafia is the themed game. Almost all games on mafia are themed games. A themed game introduces new elements (and sometimes new mechanics) that add complexity and (hopefully) fun to the game.

In addition to an alignment and a role, players are also given characters that fit in with the theme. The roles almost (but not always or necessarily) fit with the character. This can be expressed in a number of ways. For example, if the theme is a TV show or movie, and your character is a cop, officer, or policeman, he might very will have the Mafia role of "Cop" due to the similarity in profession, if not function. Alternatively, if the character isn't such an occupation, but is otherwise good at discerning between good and evil, they might also be a "Cop" due to the similarity in function, if not profession.

Themes are limited only by the imagination. Most have to do with some form of media, such as TV shows, Literature, and Movies. Others are more abstract, like philosophies or politics. Literally anything can be a theme.

As said, themes add new elements to the game, which are summarized as follows:

1. Partial-claiming - Role-claiming can be dangerous for Townies to do, as it helps mafia decide who they need to kill. Instead of role-claiming, you can character claim. While your character may hint at your role, it is still safer than full claiming.

2. Fake-claiming - Mafia normally have to fake claim their roles when forced to claim in theme-less games. In themed games they also have to fake claim characters. Arguably this is more difficult. In role-claiming, they simply have to avoid being counter-claimed. In character claiming, they have to claim a character from the theme, is consistent with their role, and is major enough to be expected (though not all characters in the game will be major).

3. Patterns - Usually, there will be some distinguishing factor between the different factions. Normally this is a good vs. evil type discrimination, but not always. Remember, the Mafia start the game knowing 1/3rd of the role PMs, so have a head start in discerning any patterns and obfuscating Town's ability to also learn it.

4. Mod Psychology - Creating a themed game, including writing PMs, requires more input from the mod. Based on analysis of the game's creation, how the role PMs are written, and any patterns discovered, you can try and determine how the game was constructed in an effort to hunt for scum. However, this is more of an art than a science. Mistakes and deliberately traps created by the mod can hinder such an analysis. Trying to predict the mod's psychology is a double edged sword.

In this game, role were assigned randomly, but not randomly generated. In other words, I selected the roles (and tried to balance them) and then randomly assigned each player one of the roles I had pre-selected.

I'll give you one hint as to this game's theme: there are no Muggles in this game...
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2/3/2014 11:19:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

DudeStop
YYW
XLAV
Jopo
7th
Tyler
Yay
Noumena
Khaos
Pots

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP will end at 11:00pm DDO time, on 2/5/14


MOD NOTE

All the roles seen on the this link could be in this game. Rule nothing out.
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2/3/2014 11:20:03 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:18:15 PM, yay842 wrote:
oh woops, was i too early?

-_- Yes, you were.
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2/3/2014 11:21:47 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:20:03 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:18:15 PM, yay842 wrote:
oh woops, was i too early?

-_- Yes, you were.

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2/3/2014 11:22:43 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:21:32 PM, DudeStop wrote:
Helloz.

oh, HI DUDESTOP
VTL DUDESTOP for character claim
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2/3/2014 11:23:45 PM
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VOTE COUNT

DudeStop - Yay
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2/3/2014 11:24:27 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:23:45 PM, bsh1 wrote:
VOTE COUNT

DudeStop (1/6) - Yay

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2/3/2014 11:25:11 PM
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Yeah! Harry Potter FTW!!

Okey dokey folks, let's get this show on the road.

Yay, have you read or watched Harry Potter?
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2/3/2014 11:26:02 PM
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Well, this has certainly been quite the learning exercise for me. Though I must say, my untimely deaths do not fare well for my future playing mafia.
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2/3/2014 11:26:04 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:25:11 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Yeah! Harry Potter FTW!!

Okey dokey folks, let's get this show on the road.

Yay, have you read or watched Harry Potter?

1. lucky b-
2. i watched it
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2/3/2014 11:26:46 PM
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Character Claims
YAY-Dumbledork
Pots-Hairy Potter
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2/3/2014 11:28:57 PM
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you know what? I see no point in hesitation of a character claim, it's practically a soft claim for those with badass roles, it may already be hard enough to guess the PR of a character (i.e. Dumbledore: you might think he's got some badass role, but you know what?) i see no reason to hide a gay role like Dumbledore's role, which is... UNLYNCHABLE WOOOO!

proof? lynch me at the end of this dp cuz we're not gonna figure out mafia just like that anyway, so yeah
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2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM
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Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE
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2/3/2014 11:29:58 PM
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CLARIFICATION

While mostly based on the movies, some influences from the books have been incorporated.
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2/3/2014 11:31:02 PM
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you also may have noticed that I am hyper now but i wont be availale tomorrow all the way until 4 ish PM tomorrow so i will have a buttload of readong to do, so NOW's FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY... TALK TO YAY!! WEEEEEEE!!! (before he runs out of caffeine and has to go to sleep)
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2/3/2014 11:36:53 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

Justification please? This doesn't seem to fit Dumbledore, but I may be missing something here.

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Where did you get this claim from? Not from me, that's for sure. I bet Nargles are responsible for it.
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2/3/2014 11:45:24 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:36:53 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

Justification please? This doesn't seem to fit Dumbledore, but I may be missing something here.
Well, i imagined Dumbledore as wise old fart who wants peace and will be like Doctor? I dont know, but i dont know how to paraphrase the description of dumbledore being unlynchable, something like, head foo, cant be arrested, something like that

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Where did you get this claim from? Not from me, that's for sure. I bet Nargles are responsible for it.

i didnt know you claimed hp, i didnt know you meant: WOO! HARRY POTTER FTW!!
but since you're here: Unvote VTL Pots for character claim
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2/3/2014 11:46:05 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

fixed
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2/3/2014 11:47:00 PM
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but easily confirmable, just lynch me at the end of DP when we get enough reads and claims, since we're most likely not gonna find scum anyway
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2/3/2014 11:47:11 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Pots (1/6) - Yay
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2/3/2014 11:48:51 PM
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well, let's see:
Dudestop came by and say, "Helloz" and left
YYW comes by and ... yeah
Pots comes by and talks for a while.... so....
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2/3/2014 11:57:23 PM
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At 2/3/2014 11:45:24 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:36:53 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

Justification please? This doesn't seem to fit Dumbledore, but I may be missing something here.
Well, i imagined Dumbledore as wise old fart who wants peace and will be like Doctor? I dont know, but i dont know how to paraphrase the description of dumbledore being unlynchable, something like, head foo, cant be arrested, something like that

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Where did you get this claim from? Not from me, that's for sure. I bet Nargles are responsible for it.

i didnt know you claimed hp, i didnt know you meant: WOO! HARRY POTTER FTW!!
but since you're here: Unvote VTL Pots for character claim

Nope. Not happening yet, not till I see good reason.
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2/4/2014 12:11:52 AM
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At 2/3/2014 11:57:23 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:45:24 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:36:53 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

Justification please? This doesn't seem to fit Dumbledore, but I may be missing something here.
Well, i imagined Dumbledore as wise old fart who wants peace and will be like Doctor? I dont know, but i dont know how to paraphrase the description of dumbledore being unlynchable, something like, head foo, cant be arrested, something like that

Pots-Hairy Potter
Where did you get this claim from? Not from me, that's for sure. I bet Nargles are responsible for it.

i didnt know you claimed hp, i didnt know you meant: WOO! HARRY POTTER FTW!!
but since you're here: Unvote VTL Pots for character claim

Nope. Not happening yet, not till I see good reason.

i really see no point in hesitating a soft claim/character claim. if it is a dope power role, then i see how one would not claim. but with characters, one does not simply guess what the PR would even be (i.e. you didnt think Dumbledore would by lynchproof) its not like we'll even be able to guess your role if you claim your character. THAT RIGHT THERE is suspicious. a character claim is practically a soft claim, the role ends up being so vague anyway
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2/4/2014 12:27:54 AM
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At 2/4/2014 12:11:52 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:57:23 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:45:24 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:36:53 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

Justification please? This doesn't seem to fit Dumbledore, but I may be missing something here.
Well, i imagined Dumbledore as wise old fart who wants peace and will be like Doctor? I dont know, but i dont know how to paraphrase the description of dumbledore being unlynchable, something like, head foo, cant be arrested, something like that

Pots-Hairy Potter
Where did you get this claim from? Not from me, that's for sure. I bet Nargles are responsible for it.

i didnt know you claimed hp, i didnt know you meant: WOO! HARRY POTTER FTW!!
but since you're here: Unvote VTL Pots for character claim

Nope. Not happening yet, not till I see good reason.

i really see no point in hesitating a soft claim/character claim. if it is a dope power role, then i see how one would not claim. but with characters, one does not simply guess what the PR would even be (i.e. you didnt think Dumbledore would by lynchproof) its not like we'll even be able to guess your role if you claim your character. THAT RIGHT THERE is suspicious. a character claim is practically a soft claim, the role ends up being so vague anyway

Will you be happy if I soft claimed my character?
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2/4/2014 12:38:33 AM
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At 2/4/2014 12:27:54 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/4/2014 12:11:52 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:57:23 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:45:24 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:36:53 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/3/2014 11:29:32 PM, yay842 wrote:
Character Claims

YAY-Dumbledork-UNLYNCHABLE

Justification please? This doesn't seem to fit Dumbledore, but I may be missing something here.
Well, i imagined Dumbledore as wise old fart who wants peace and will be like Doctor? I dont know, but i dont know how to paraphrase the description of dumbledore being unlynchable, something like, head foo, cant be arrested, something like that

Pots-Hairy Potter
Where did you get this claim from? Not from me, that's for sure. I bet Nargles are responsible for it.

i didnt know you claimed hp, i didnt know you meant: WOO! HARRY POTTER FTW!!
but since you're here: Unvote VTL Pots for character claim

Nope. Not happening yet, not till I see good reason.

i really see no point in hesitating a soft claim/character claim. if it is a dope power role, then i see how one would not claim. but with characters, one does not simply guess what the PR would even be (i.e. you didnt think Dumbledore would by lynchproof) its not like we'll even be able to guess your role if you claim your character. THAT RIGHT THERE is suspicious. a character claim is practically a soft claim, the role ends up being so vague anyway

Will you be happy if I soft claimed my character?

... meh, ok Unvote enlighten me
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2/4/2014 12:40:19 AM
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So, honest question here... should I actually make an effort to read all of this or am I just going to get lynched on DP1?
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2/4/2014 12:51:38 AM
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At 2/4/2014 12:40:19 AM, YYW wrote:
So, honest question here... should I actually make an effort to read all of this or am I just going to get lynched on DP1?

about 69% stuff here is legit, i claimed Dumbledore-unlynchable and thats pretty much all thats important... while you're here, just character claim and thats all i need
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