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Beginners' Mafia 21.1: Endgame

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2/15/2014 9:51:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Mafia wins!

MAFIA

GCL - You are the Watcher. Each night you may select a player. You will learn who visits them. You win with the mafia.

Formerly: Mimic

Oromagi - You are the role cop. Each night you may select a player. You will learn their role but not their affiliation. You win with the mafia.

Khaos - You are the Scout. Each nigh you may select a player. You will learn who that player visits. You win with the mafia.

TOWN

XLAV - You are the Sidekick. Each night you may select a player. You will redirect any non-lethal actions from them to you. You win with the town.

Jopo - You are the Watcher. Each night you may select a player. You will learn who visits them. You win with the town

Formerly: Universal Backup

Pots - You are the Priest. You learn the roles of those who visit you. You win with the town.

YYW - You are the Roleblocker. Each night you may select a player. You will prevent them from exercising their role. You win with the town.

Fazz - You are Bulletproof. You are immune to night kills. You win with the town.

Josh - You are the Watcher. Each night you may select a player. You will learn who visits them. You win with the town

Tyler - You are the PGO. You will kill anyone who visits you. You win with the town.

NIGHT ACTIONS

NP1

Josh - watch GCL
YYW - block Josh
XLAV - sidekick Fazz
GCL - mimic Jopo
Khaos - scout Josh
Oromagi - role cop Pots
Oromagi - NK Fazz

NP2:

YYW - block Pots
Oromagi - role cop Pots
Khaos - scout Jopo
Jopo - watch Pots
Oromagi - NK XLAV
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2/15/2014 9:54:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Knew it! Knew it knew knew it. Khaos was scum. At leas t I got one right.

Why did oro cop me twice? What purpose did that serve?

And khaos, how did you know it was safe to claim bomb?
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2/15/2014 9:59:01 PM
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Bsh1, would it be possible for me to join the next beginner game? I have read a fair amount of these games and would like to get my feet wet
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2/15/2014 10:01:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
AHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
Perfect game!!!!

To answer your questions:
At the end of NP1, we knew everyone's role except for fazz and Tyler; however, we knew that Fazz was BP or Tyler was doc. I honestly did not know Tyler was PGO until NP2 when Oro explained it to me.

Why XLAV?
With jopo alive it cast suspicion on him, even though he was the biggest threat in terms of ability and role.
I was hoping YYW would just open with a vote on Pots, so they had to stay alive.
Tyler was far more suspicious than XLAV, plus, XLAV could ruin the dreamer claim.
So, XLAV it is.

Coming out of NP2, I had Oro role cop Pots again, to bus me, since we needed some town cred, in addition to some dreamer action casting me in a bad light. However, with my teammates' delay and Pots' refusal to unvote, I saw my opening to get one vote on him. Thanks, Tyler :)

With GCL's natural confusion, it made sense to assign her a confusing role.

My fake claim was to be CC'd, since I don't like mafia trackers.
If I was not CC'd, then I get town cred.
If I was, we knew who not to target.

Tyler, that was incredibly stupid to do as PGO. Mafia usually comprise 20-33% of the players, so any riddle/code that you hope is decyphered may well be decyphered. However, had there been a doc in the game, they may well have protected you, only to die. That was a wholly unnecessary risk.
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2/15/2014 10:02:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 9:59:01 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Bsh1, would it be possible for me to join the next beginner game? I have read a fair amount of these games and would like to get my feet wet

Sure.
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2/15/2014 10:04:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 10:02:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/15/2014 9:59:01 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Bsh1, would it be possible for me to join the next beginner game? I have read a fair amount of these games and would like to get my feet wet

Sure.

Thanks! Looking forward to it
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2/15/2014 10:05:23 PM
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I wanted Oro to say that he was redirected to Pots.
This would have cast even more suspicion on me and jopo, plus Tyler, since mafia would have redirected a player to their death, any day of the week.

Pots, learn what confirmation is.
You were not confirmed at all.
You were informed of being roleblocked, which meant you wouldn't have knowledge anyway of anyone else.
NP1, a scummate could have watched (lookout) you to see who came.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/15/2014 10:06:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 10:05:14 PM, XLAV wrote:
Impressive scum play.

Lol, 3 watchers. XD

Well, universal backup and mafia mimic (who mimiced universal backup).
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/15/2014 10:07:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 9:54:12 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Knew it! Knew it knew knew it. Khaos was scum. At leas t I got one right.

Why did oro cop me twice? What purpose did that serve?

And khaos, how did you know it was safe to claim bomb?

See post 5.
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2/15/2014 10:15:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 9:58:34 PM, yay842 wrote:
GCL was not an innocent Child

( no I wasn't...
Better than deserved, as ALWAYS.
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2/15/2014 10:17:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 10:01:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
AHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
Perfect game!!!!

To answer your questions:
At the end of NP1, we knew everyone's role except for fazz and Tyler; however, we knew that Fazz was BP or Tyler was doc. I honestly did not know Tyler was PGO until NP2 when Oro explained it to me.

Why XLAV?
With jopo alive it cast suspicion on him, even though he was the biggest threat in terms of ability and role.
I was hoping YYW would just open with a vote on Pots, so they had to stay alive.
Tyler was far more suspicious than XLAV, plus, XLAV could ruin the dreamer claim.
So, XLAV it is.

Coming out of NP2, I had Oro role cop Pots again, to bus me, since we needed some town cred, in addition to some dreamer action casting me in a bad light. However, with my teammates' delay and Pots' refusal to unvote, I saw my opening to get one vote on him. Thanks, Tyler :)

With GCL's natural confusion, it made sense to assign her a confusing role.
Oh geee thanks for the humiliation here ^^ LOL jk

My fake claim was to be CC'd, since I don't like mafia trackers.
If I was not CC'd, then I get town cred.
If I was, we knew who not to target.

Tyler, that was incredibly stupid to do as PGO. Mafia usually comprise 20-33% of the players, so any riddle/code that you hope is decyphered may well be decyphered. However, had there been a doc in the game, they may well have protected you, only to die. That was a wholly unnecessary risk.
Better than deserved, as ALWAYS.
"The strongest principle of growth lies in human choices."
"The Lord doesn't promise us a perfect life that is free of problems, but he does promise that He'll get us through anything." ~SweeTea
"Good Times" ~ Max
"If Jesus isn't in heaven, then it's not heaven; instead, it's hell." ~anonymous
"Suffering is unimaginably confusing, but it's a way to be drawn closer to God" ~Me
"Tell me what consumes your heart most, and I'll tell you who your God is." ~Dad
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2/15/2014 10:19:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 10:17:13 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 2/15/2014 10:01:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

With GCL's natural confusion, it made sense to assign her a confusing role.
Oh geee thanks for the humiliation here ^^ LOL jk

It's an understandable position to be in. There is no need to for humiliation.
Being mafia is hard. Period.
Being mafia in your first game is super hard.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/15/2014 10:21:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 10:19:49 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/15/2014 10:17:13 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 2/15/2014 10:01:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

With GCL's natural confusion, it made sense to assign her a confusing role.
Oh geee thanks for the humiliation here ^^ LOL jk

It's an understandable position to be in. There is no need to for humiliation.
Being mafia is hard. Period.
Being mafia in your first game is super hard.
Copy that ;P
Better than deserved, as ALWAYS.
"The strongest principle of growth lies in human choices."
"The Lord doesn't promise us a perfect life that is free of problems, but he does promise that He'll get us through anything." ~SweeTea
"Good Times" ~ Max
"If Jesus isn't in heaven, then it's not heaven; instead, it's hell." ~anonymous
"Suffering is unimaginably confusing, but it's a way to be drawn closer to God" ~Me
"Tell me what consumes your heart most, and I'll tell you who your God is." ~Dad
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2/15/2014 11:00:24 PM
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I just realized there was only 3 of us playing mafia? Why is that?
Better than deserved, as ALWAYS.
"The strongest principle of growth lies in human choices."
"The Lord doesn't promise us a perfect life that is free of problems, but he does promise that He'll get us through anything." ~SweeTea
"Good Times" ~ Max
"If Jesus isn't in heaven, then it's not heaven; instead, it's hell." ~anonymous
"Suffering is unimaginably confusing, but it's a way to be drawn closer to God" ~Me
"Tell me what consumes your heart most, and I'll tell you who your God is." ~Dad
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2/15/2014 11:00:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 10:49:00 PM, Josh_b wrote:
why wasn't Fazz night killed on DP1?

He was bulletproof.
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2/15/2014 11:03:09 PM
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At 2/15/2014 11:00:33 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/15/2014 10:49:00 PM, Josh_b wrote:
why wasn't Fazz night killed on DP1?

He was bulletproof.

Yea, that would have helped us. If he wasn't mod killed instead. Is he coming back in the next round?
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2/15/2014 11:11:51 PM
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At 2/15/2014 10:56:59 PM, Bullish wrote:
You people be burning through beginner games.

Bullish- if u win your R2 Intermediate round, you and I will be head to head for the final round. Any debate ideas?
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2/15/2014 11:17:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/15/2014 11:11:51 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 2/15/2014 10:56:59 PM, Bullish wrote:
You people be burning through beginner games.

Bullish- if u win your R2 Intermediate round, you and I will be head to head for the final round. Any debate ideas?

This is a great place to talk about it...

You can take a look at my issues list. I don't want to do economic things yet.
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2/15/2014 11:21:39 PM
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This is a great place to talk about it...

You can take a look at my issues list. I don't want to do economic things yet.

ok I agree this is not the place u just popped up while I was starting to think about it. We're pretty in-sync politics-wise. How about robots/future tech something? Feel free to drop me a line if u have ideas
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2/15/2014 11:25:14 PM
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At 2/15/2014 10:05:23 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I wanted Oro to say that he was redirected to Pots.
This would have cast even more suspicion on me and jopo, plus Tyler, since mafia would have redirected a player to their death, any day of the week.


Pots, learn what confirmation is.
You were not confirmed at all.
You were informed of being roleblocked, which meant you wouldn't have knowledge anyway of anyone else.
NP1, a scummate could have watched (lookout) you to see who came.

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2/15/2014 11:28:02 PM
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At 2/15/2014 11:00:24 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
I just realized there was only 3 of us playing mafia? Why is that?
Better than deserved, as ALWAYS.
"The strongest principle of growth lies in human choices."
"The Lord doesn't promise us a perfect life that is free of problems, but he does promise that He'll get us through anything." ~SweeTea
"Good Times" ~ Max
"If Jesus isn't in heaven, then it's not heaven; instead, it's hell." ~anonymous
"Suffering is unimaginably confusing, but it's a way to be drawn closer to God" ~Me
"Tell me what consumes your heart most, and I'll tell you who your God is." ~Dad
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2/15/2014 11:29:51 PM
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At 2/15/2014 11:28:02 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 2/15/2014 11:00:24 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
I just realized there was only 3 of us playing mafia? Why is that?
The mafia usually consists of 33% or 25% of the total players.
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2/15/2014 11:33:32 PM
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At 2/15/2014 11:25:14 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/15/2014 10:05:23 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I wanted Oro to say that he was redirected to Pots.
This would have cast even more suspicion on me and jopo, plus Tyler, since mafia would have redirected a player to their death, any day of the week.

K was after me last night to talk up the redirect, but I was too worried that the second I showed my head, Pots would say "VTL Khaos or die" and if I didn't, I'd be the one to go.
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2/15/2014 11:35:15 PM
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At 2/15/2014 11:29:51 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/15/2014 11:28:02 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 2/15/2014 11:00:24 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
I just realized there was only 3 of us playing mafia? Why is that?
The mafia usually consists of 33% or 25% of the total players.

But why is what I'm asking though.
Better than deserved, as ALWAYS.
"The strongest principle of growth lies in human choices."
"The Lord doesn't promise us a perfect life that is free of problems, but he does promise that He'll get us through anything." ~SweeTea
"Good Times" ~ Max
"If Jesus isn't in heaven, then it's not heaven; instead, it's hell." ~anonymous
"Suffering is unimaginably confusing, but it's a way to be drawn closer to God" ~Me
"Tell me what consumes your heart most, and I'll tell you who your God is." ~Dad
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2/15/2014 11:43:18 PM
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At 2/15/2014 11:35:15 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 2/15/2014 11:29:51 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/15/2014 11:28:02 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 2/15/2014 11:00:24 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
I just realized there was only 3 of us playing mafia? Why is that?
The mafia usually consists of 33% or 25% of the total players.

But why is what I'm asking though.
If there is more mafia than the mafia is over powered. If there is less mafia than the town is over powered.