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Zaradi
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2/16/2014 11:18:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Died During the Night:

Yay, you are QUINN, DEMACIA'S WINGS. You may watch one player on odd nights, and track one player on even nights. You win with the town.

Alive Players:

1. Mestari
2. Khaos
3. Yraelz/FT
4. Dudestop
5. Solon
6. Aloke

With six players remaining, it takes four to lynch.
This DP will end at 11:59 pm DDO time on 2/21.
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DudeStop
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2/16/2014 11:54:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 11:25:43 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
What the hell Dudestop?!?
VTNL

I swear I used my ability.
DudeStop
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2/16/2014 12:55:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 12:17:24 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
You're fvcking dumb. You said you can stop any kills, not 1 kill...

Actually, you're the retard.

I said I can protect 1 person per night.

I also have a one shot protect everybody, which I used.

I'm guessing I was rolebocked.
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2/16/2014 12:57:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 11:25:43 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
What the hell Dudestop?!?
VTNL

Why VTNL?
SO to Bailey, the love of my life <3
Khaos_Mage
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2/16/2014 1:09:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 12:57:10 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 2/16/2014 11:25:43 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
What the hell Dudestop?!?
VTNL

Why VTNL?

Isn't that standard at MYLO?
However, FT is really pissing me off, so I'm down for his death.
My work here is, finally, done.
SolonKR
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2/16/2014 2:03:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 1:09:06 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/16/2014 12:57:10 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 2/16/2014 11:25:43 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
What the hell Dudestop?!?
VTNL

Why VTNL?

Isn't that standard at MYLO?
However, FT is really pissing me off, so I'm down for his death.

We had established yesterday that we were going to lynch Yraelz/FT. I'm surprised that I'm still alive, considering that Aloke said he was going to kill me. I'm also surprised that the mafia didn't kill him.

Regardless, I still vouch for VTL Yraelz/FT
SO to Bailey, the love of my life <3
Khaos_Mage
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2/16/2014 2:08:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 1:09:06 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/16/2014 12:57:10 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 2/16/2014 11:25:43 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
What the hell Dudestop?!?
VTNL

Why VTNL?

Isn't that standard at MYLO?
However, FT is really pissing me off, so I'm down for his death.

Let me rephrase:
I think it best to no lynch today, and let the scum teams kill each other, giving us the best chance of victory. Aloke said he wants town to win, so he'll be gunning for mafia. However, since he didn't die last night, and clearly death was possible, it makes me wonder if the SK was a scum gambit.

Either way, I don't think town will be eliminated tonight, especially if there is me and doc around.

As far as FT goes, I think he was all over the map last DP, and contradicted himself. Especially, when he said we should lynch TDK, then recanted upon realizing he was TDK, then manufactured a reason to disbelieve the result. Yes, it was false, but it showed 100% contradiction on him.

Further, I don't know what to make of Lucky's "reaction test", but my reaction was to buddy him, since I believed him, is suspicious how? I was under the impression he knew my role, and I often buddy good players, if I believe them. Lucky later exposed his lie, which I lost my trust for him, and here I am alone in the world again.
It reminds me of the time Yraelz trolled a game he wasn't in, claimed DP Cop and got a guilty on me, and I immediately full claimed to prove my innocense. The fact that this is so similar in reaction should prove to Yraelz that I am town.

However, he is blinded by confirmation bias that we can't have the same role, even though, there are allegedly two doctors, two day-vigs, and two BP.

So, all in all, I think no lynch is the way to go today. If SK fails to kill mafia, we lynch him to get second. I honestly don't think town can win without the help of SK.
If we lynch SK, we lose. (3:2) -> (2:2)
If we lynch town, it's up to SK to kill right. (2:2:1) -> (1:1:1) or (0:2:1) or (2:1) or (1:2)
If we lynch mafia, we have a shot, but SK still has to kill right. (3:1:1) -> (1:1:1)
If we no lynch, SK still has to kill right. (3:2:1) -> (3:1) or (2:2) or (1:2:1)

But, to get second place, SK has to help us otherwise, he'll get third.

My best read for mafia is FT. Maybe Dude, given two docs and two 1x protects seems too many.
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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2/16/2014 2:09:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 2:03:26 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 2/16/2014 1:09:06 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/16/2014 12:57:10 PM, SolonKR wrote:
At 2/16/2014 11:25:43 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
What the hell Dudestop?!?
VTNL

Why VTNL?

Isn't that standard at MYLO?
However, FT is really pissing me off, so I'm down for his death.

We had established yesterday that we were going to lynch Yraelz/FT. I'm surprised that I'm still alive, considering that Aloke said he was going to kill me. I'm also surprised that the mafia didn't kill him.

Regardless, I still vouch for VTL Yraelz/FT

Do you think Dude was lying about the protect?
Do you think mafia RB'd SK?
My work here is, finally, done.
Zaradi
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2/16/2014 2:25:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Eating Too Many Nidalee Spears:

VTNL (1/4) - Khaos
Khaos (1/4) - Yraelz/FT
Yraelz/FT (1/4) - Solon
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FourTrouble
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2/16/2014 3:45:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Khaos, Aloke, and someone else are scum.

We have 3 town, 3 scum.

If we lynch mafia Today, and mafia kills a townie Tonight, that leaves us 2 scum and 2 town. If we lynch Aloke next, town loses. If we lynch the other mafia next, Aloke wins. Town loses if we lynch mafia Today.

If we lynch Aloke Today, mafia wins, straight-up.

We literally cannot win this game.

If you townies want Aloke to win, lynch Khaos Today.

If you townies want mafia to win, lynch Aloke Today.

The game is that simple. Town has lost. Our only chance at winning was Dudestop stopping the night-kill last night, lynching Aloke or mafia Yesterady, or Aloke killing mafia. Neither of those happened. So...

GG.

Do what you want. The game is over for Town.
FourTrouble
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2/16/2014 3:47:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Or Aloke can help us win by killing mafia Tonight, in which case we will lynch him Tomorrow. That scenario is unlikely, as he'll be playing to win himself. His best strategy will be not killing mafia, cause then we'll have to decide between lynching him or mafia.

The mafia can kill Aloke Tonight, which would leave 4 players left. We'd basically have to figure out who the mafia are at that point. That's probably mafia's best strategy -- since they'll probably be able to get us lynched Tomorrow, given how clueless the town appears to be.
FourTrouble
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2/16/2014 3:52:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
IFLY, what are you abilities as SK? Do you have any sort of protection (bulletproof) or other abilities other than killing each night?
Khaos_Mage
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2/16/2014 3:56:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 3:45:20 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
Khaos, Aloke, and someone else are scum.

We have 3 town, 3 scum.

If we lynch mafia Today, and mafia kills a townie Tonight, that leaves us 2 scum and 2 town. If we lynch Aloke next, town loses. If we lynch the other mafia next, Aloke wins. Town loses if we lynch mafia Today.
Nice analysis bro, even though I already got it covered.
Except you forget about SK's kill.

If we lynch Aloke Today, mafia wins, straight-up.

We literally cannot win this game.

If you townies want Aloke to win, lynch Khaos Today.

If you townies want mafia to win, lynch Aloke Today.

The game is that simple. Town has lost. Our only chance at winning was Dudestop stopping the night-kill last night, lynching Aloke or mafia Yesterady, or Aloke killing mafia. Neither of those happened. So...

GG.

Do what you want. The game is over for Town.

So, you largely parrot what I am saying, misrepresent the outcomes, and state "you townies".
Unvote VTL FT
My work here is, finally, done.
Aloke
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2/16/2014 4:32:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 3:57:57 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
IFLY, if you're actually SK, shoot a mafioso tonight. You can win the game.

Town has already lost.

Good luck.

I tried to kill Khaos last night. I even had a strongman kill left. Whatever.

VTL Khaos.

I say we lynch Khaos and I go back to trying to kill Solon.
Iflyhigh
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2/16/2014 4:34:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 4:32:02 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 2/16/2014 3:57:57 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
IFLY, if you're actually SK, shoot a mafioso tonight. You can win the game.

Town has already lost.

Good luck.

I tried to kill Khaos last night. I even had a strongman kill left. Whatever.

VTL Khaos.

I say we lynch Khaos and I go back to trying to kill Solon.

Why did you try to kill me last night?
Why am I scum?
Did you read my posts?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/16/2014 4:34:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 3:52:45 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
IFLY, what are you abilities as SK? Do you have any sort of protection (bulletproof) or other abilities other than killing each night?

Each successful NK I have, I gain another ability. I gained a one shot strongman ability, but I forgot to use it last night. That means Khaos was protected last night. If anybody believes me, then they should be vtl khoas since mafia obviously protected him. And let's be honest here, what do I have to gain by lying now?
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2/16/2014 4:36:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 4:34:57 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 2/16/2014 3:52:45 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
IFLY, what are you abilities as SK? Do you have any sort of protection (bulletproof) or other abilities other than killing each night?

Each successful NK I have, I gain another ability. I gained a one shot strongman ability, but I forgot to use it last night. That means Khaos was protected last night. If anybody believes me, then they should be vtl khoas since mafia obviously protected him. And let's be honest here, what do I have to gain by lying now?

Yeah, Dude said he protected me (or everyone) or something.
What exactly does that prove?
My work here is, finally, done.
Aloke
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2/16/2014 4:36:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 4:34:28 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Why did you try to kill me last night?
Why am I scum?
Did you read my posts?

Yes, I read your post. I believe your scum due to POE and Yraelz/FT's arguments last DP. Anyways, you're definitely scum since you were protected by mafia(unless Dudestop protected you?)
Iflyhigh
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2/16/2014 4:38:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 4:36:48 PM, Aloke wrote:
At 2/16/2014 4:34:28 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Why did you try to kill me last night?
Why am I scum?
Did you read my posts?

Yes, I read your post. I believe your scum due to POE and Yraelz/FT's arguments last DP. Anyways, you're definitely scum since you were protected by mafia(unless Dudestop protected you?)

So, even though when you fake guiltied FT, and he agreed with you, his back track means nothing.
Are you mafia, bro?

And Dude said he protected everyone.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/16/2014 4:39:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 4:36:16 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Yeah, Dude said he protected me (or everyone) or something.

Well it's one of those. Which is it?

What exactly does that prove?

If Dudestop didn't protect you, then a non-town role did. This is because there isn't any protective roles left and Lucky already shot you which means you shouldn't be BP anymore. It's unlikely you're TP, so it's likely that mafia protected you last night. That's the only explanation. Why would mafia protect a townie?
Iflyhigh
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2/16/2014 4:40:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/16/2014 4:38:50 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
And Dude said he protected everyone.

Then why is Yay dead? Obviously he didn't do jack sh!t last night.
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