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Beginners' Mafia 21.1: DP1

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2/17/2014 5:00:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION - Third Parties and Misinformation

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Depending on the game and the mod, third parties win by themselves, when certain conditions are met, or can win with either the Town or the Mafia.

This game also introduces the concept of flavors. Flavors are the adjectives of Mafia, altering how roles work. Here are some common flavors:

Even/Odd - Roles with these modifiers can only work on Even or Odd-numbered Night Phases
X-Shot - Roles with these modifiers can only be used X number of times.

(these flavors are usually made known to the player.)

Paranoid - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Guitly-type results. For Doctors, they role-block their target.
Naive - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Innocent-type results. For Doctors and other non-investigative roles, they do nothing.
Insane - For Cops, they receive results opposite of the Truth

(these flavors may be concealed from the player by the mod(s).)
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2/17/2014 5:10:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
SET-UP:

The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:

TOWN

Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Coroner - Can learn the affiliation and role of a dead player.
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Ascetic - Cannot be targeted by non-lethal actions.
Commuter - Cannot be targeted at night.
Sidekick - Redirects non-lethal actions from another player to himself.
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Cop, Doctor, Vigilante
Pacifist - may not place votes on people at L-1

MAFIA

Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Role Stealer- Can permanently steal and use another player's role.
Ascetic - Same as Town.
Bus Driver - Switches the actions performed on two players.
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Role Cop, Role Block, Frame
Commuter - Same as Town.
Framer - Can make another player investigate as non-Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Rolestopper - Can make another player immune to non-lethal actions.
Godfather - Investigates as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Janitor - Can choose to hide the role and affiliation of a killed player.
Lawyer - Can make another player investigate as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Ninja - Does not appear on tracker/watcher reports.
Redirector - Can change another player's intended target.
Roleblocker - Prevents the use of another player's role.

THIRD-PARTY

Serial Killer - Each night may kill another player. Wins when all other players are dead (joint win not possible).
Survivor - Wins by surviving until another faction achieves its win condition (joint win possible).
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2/17/2014 5:12:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

Josh
YYW
Jopo
GCL
Splash
Khaos
Oromagi
XLAV
Tyler
Fazz

Pots is town advisor.

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 5:00pm DDO time, on 2/19/14.


Good luck!
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2/17/2014 5:26:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Je suis la bombe. je n'ai aucune raison de mentir.

Are splash and fazz really back or is this a c&p from last game?

VTL Khaos on principle
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2/17/2014 5:27:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:26:44 PM, Oromagi wrote:
Je suis la bombe. je n'ai aucune raison de mentir.

Are splash and fazz really back or is this a c&p from last game?

VTL Khaos on principle

VTL Khaos
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2/17/2014 5:38:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:26:44 PM, Oromagi wrote:
Je suis la bombe. je n'ai aucune raison de mentir.

Are splash and fazz really back or is this a c&p from last game?

VTL Khaos on principle

Splash and Fazz have been invited back to play. Their continuance is the series is dependent on this game.
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2/17/2014 5:39:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Khaos (1/6) - Oromagi
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2/17/2014 5:53:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:47:53 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oracle here.

Hullo, XLAV

Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death

Does that mean the oracle's death or anybody's death?
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2/17/2014 5:53:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:27:13 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:26:44 PM, Oromagi wrote:
Je suis la bombe. je n'ai aucune raison de mentir.

Are splash and fazz really back or is this a c&p from last game?

VTL Khaos on principle

VTL Khaos

And what principle is that?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 5:55:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:53:10 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:47:53 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oracle here.

Hullo, XLAV

Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death

Does that mean the oracle's death or anybody's death?

My death.
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2/17/2014 5:57:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:47:53 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oracle here.
Out of curiosity, and obviously things will change, if it was the NP right now, how would you choose and why?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang
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2/17/2014 6:00:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:57:04 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:47:53 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oracle here.
Out of curiosity, and obviously things will change, if it was the NP right now, how would you choose and why?

I choose when I'm lynched and everyone will know before the DP ends. I reveal roles too. Lynch me now whoever wants to be confirmed first.
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2/17/2014 6:02:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed.

LMFAO! Nice one.
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2/17/2014 6:02:59 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Khaos (1/6) - Oromagi
XLAV (1/6) - XLAV
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2/17/2014 6:03:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

And 25% increase of zero is....(calculating)...(calculating)....(calculating)....ln e - 1.

But seriously, why should I out my role?
Are you afraid to be scum without me? Do you miss me in that PM?
I bet it is a cold and dark place without me.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 6:04:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 6:00:04 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:57:04 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:47:53 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oracle here.
Out of curiosity, and obviously things will change, if it was the NP right now, how would you choose and why?

I choose when I'm lynched and everyone will know before the DP ends. I reveal roles too. Lynch me now whoever wants to be confirmed first.

Confirm with bsh1. That doesn't sound right.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 7:05:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Quiet towns are dead towns, people. Let's start talking!

K- have u ever seen this image from early days of D & D? This is what comes to mind when I see your handle:

http://skylandgames.wordpress.com...
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2/17/2014 7:05:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 6:04:30 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/17/2014 6:00:04 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:57:04 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:47:53 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oracle here.
Out of curiosity, and obviously things will change, if it was the NP right now, how would you choose and why?

I choose when I'm lynched and everyone will know before the DP ends. I reveal roles too. Lynch me now whoever wants to be confirmed first.

Confirm with bsh1. That doesn't sound right.

Whenever I've played in other places oracle picked someone during the np and then if they were killed during that np or the next dp that's who they revealed
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2/17/2014 7:09:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

Enjoy that fight haha analyzing Khaos just makes my brain go "duhhh nuh-nuh-nuh, nuh-nuh, nuh-nuh can't touch this!" < because that is his meta
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2/17/2014 7:13:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Agreed. So I will assume he a serial killer or suicide bomber until irrefutable evidence is presented. I may not be 100% certain he's scum, but he's already playing games so I'm okay with stringing him up just to see what happens.
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2/17/2014 7:20:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

VTL Kaos on the same principle. You confused the sh**T out of me last game.
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2/17/2014 7:24:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 7:20:12 PM, Josh_b wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

VTL Kaos on the same principle. You confused the sh**T out of me last game.

I probably would have started with a vtl pots for the same prinicple, but splash is back. If she doesn't participate, please kick her out of the game.
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2/17/2014 7:25:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 7:20:12 PM, Josh_b wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

VTL Kaos on the same principle. You confused the sh**T out of me last game.

And what principle is that, hmmm?
Did Oro tell you this?
He disappeared for like an hour, and came back with reinforcements, didn't he?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 7:27:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 7:09:34 PM, jopo wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

Enjoy that fight haha analyzing Khaos just makes my brain go "duhhh nuh-nuh-nuh, nuh-nuh, nuh-nuh can't touch this!" < because that is his meta

It's funny because apparently, I have dead giveaways as town and scum, or the big boys lie to me.
Must be why I like playing in beginner series so much.

Tell me, do you understand this principle they are going for?
I mean, we only have our role. What if I was doc or cop?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 7:28:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 7:13:04 PM, Oromagi wrote:
Agreed. So I will assume he a serial killer or suicide bomber until irrefutable evidence is presented. I may not be 100% certain he's scum, but he's already playing games so I'm okay with stringing him up just to see what happens.

Hey, I'm not the one that left for an hour to grab reinforcements in jopo and josh.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 7:31:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 7:24:53 PM, Josh_b wrote:
At 2/17/2014 7:20:12 PM, Josh_b wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

VTL Kaos on the same principle. You confused the sh**T out of me last game.

I probably would have started with a vtl pots for the same prinicple, but splash is back. If she doesn't participate, please kick her out of the game.

This is also strange, since Pots played close to the chest. Why was he so confusing?
Those hardly seem like the same principle at all.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/17/2014 7:31:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/17/2014 7:25:25 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/17/2014 7:20:12 PM, Josh_b wrote:
At 2/17/2014 5:58:05 PM, Oromagi wrote:

And what principle is that?

Town is rule of law, so Khaos must be supressed. The fact that you did not claim in your first post has increased my suspicion by 25%. Talk or hang

VTL Kaos on the same principle. You confused the sh**T out of me last game.

And what principle is that, hmmm?
Did Oro tell you this?
He disappeared for like an hour, and came back with reinforcements, didn't he?

what does time have to do with it? I mean I got on the last round that Oro and GCL flash hammered. but what about the rest of it? Is that going to confirm bussing?
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