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Beginners Mafia 21.3: DP3 (take two)

bsh1
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2/24/2014 12:25:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
LYNCHED LAST DP

Josh - You are Rayquaza. Because you are the only one who can halt the battle between Groudon and Kyogre, you are the 1-shot Governor. You can, at the end of a DP where a lynch is about to occur, prevent the lynch from occurring. This ends the DP. You win with the Legendaries.

DIED IN THE NIGHT

GCL - You are Deoxys. Because you can change form, you are the Mimic. You may select a player and take on their role. This change is permanent. You win with the Legendaries.

(1-shot Vig)

GRAVEYARD

Jopo
Oromagi
Josh
GCL

LIVING PLAYERS

YYW
Pots
Khaos
XLAV
Tyler
Yay

With 6 players it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at noon, DDO time, on 2/26/14/.


Good luck!
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2/24/2014 12:38:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
so Pots must die? ok. GOOD NIGHT PEOPLE
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2/24/2014 12:43:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Pots (1/4) - Yay
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XLAV
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2/24/2014 12:43:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Claims List
[Name](T,M,TP,N) - [Character], [Role]

Alive:

Pots(T) - Mew, Elite Bodyguard
XLAV(T) - Zapdos, 1-Shot Vigilante
Yay(N) - Girantina, ???
YYW(T) - ???, Bulletproof
Tyler(N) - ???, Popular
Khaos(N) - ???, Hider

Dead:

Oro(T) - Ho-Oh, Cop
Josh(T) - Rykuza, 1-Shot Governor
Jopo(M) - Charmander, 2-Shot Strongman
GCL(T) - Deoxys, 1-Shot Vigilante (Mimic)

Legend:
T= Town
M= Mafia
TP= Third Party
N= Null
XLAV
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2/24/2014 12:50:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 12:43:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
Claims List
[Name](T,M,TP,N) - [Character], [Role]


Alive:

Pots(T) - Mew, Elite Bodyguard
XLAV(T) - Zapdos, 1-Shot Vigilante
Yay(N) - Girantina, ???
YYW(N) - ???, Bulletproof
Tyler(N) - ???, Popular
Khaos(N) - ???, Hider

Dead:

Oro(T) - Ho-Oh, Cop
Josh(T) - Rykuza, 1-Shot Governor
Jopo(M) - Charmander, 2-Shot Strongman
GCL(T) - Deoxys, 1-Shot Vigilante (Mimic)

Legend:
T= Town
M= Mafia
TP= Third Party
N= Null
Screw that. I'm not town reading YYW for now.
The only confirmed townies right now, for me at least, is Me and Pots.
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2/24/2014 12:54:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 12:38:29 AM, yay842 wrote:
so Pots must die? ok. GOOD NIGHT PEOPLE
VTL Pots
We are in MYLO if there are 2 scums and you voted for Pots for no reason at all. That is very scummy.
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2/24/2014 1:09:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Claims List
[Name](T,M,TP,N) - [Character], [Role]

Alive:

Pots(T) - Mew, Elite Bodyguard
XLAV(T) - Zapdos, 1-Shot Vigilante
Yay(N) - Girantina, ???
YYW(N) - ???, Bulletproof
Tyler(N) - Landorus, Popular
Khaos(N) - ???, Hider

Dead:

Oro(T) - Ho-Oh, Cop
Josh(T) - Rykuza, 1-Shot Governor
Jopo(M) - Charmander, 2-Shot Strongman
GCL(T) - Deoxys, 1-Shot Vigilante (Mimic)

Legend:
T= Town
M= Mafia
TP= Third Party
N= Null
Khaos_Mage
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2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Darkrai, here.

I am concerned with the mad rush on Josh.
I told you he was town, and you didn't even let him speak XLAV...
Why the rush?

We are at likely at MYLO. Unless we have a solid read on scum, we might as well no lynch. But, instead of no lynching, we might as well lynch YYW to prove his role and confirm him.

Assuming GCL successfully shot YYW, he is bullet proof. There is no way scum can be deathproof.
VTL YYW

I am rethinking the "confirmed" status of Pots and XLAV, even though XLAV was never confirmed in any way.
XLAV has been hopping from wagon to wagon blindly following Pots and Oro DP1. Plus, he wanted my lynch over jopo's. His shooting jopo could well have been for town cred, since jopo was going to die anyway.

Pots led the charge against Josh, and is turning a blind eye to the rule of: role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation. He also read GCL as town, just because she was a mimic. He was right in that case, but mafia would love to get their hands on a vig for extra NKs.

YYW, if death proof is obviously town.
Khaos did not hide behind anyone, because i am an odd-night hider. Also, I wonder if I am flavored...after all, there was a cop, too.

Tyler was late to the party, but mention the master ball, seems legit, but who knows.

Yay is only confirmed through me, and I am having doubts as to my roll's utility. I think it may be a protective role (for myself) and nothing more.

We can't all be confirmed townies, right? So, we need to re-assess everyone.
Lynch YYW to confirm him, let mafia kill tonight to eliminate suspects, and we'll reassess tomorrow.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/24/2014 7:58:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Darkrai, here.

I am concerned with the mad rush on Josh.
I told you he was town, and you didn't even let him speak XLAV...
Why the rush?
B!tch VTL'ed me.
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2/24/2014 8:01:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Khaos did not hide behind anyone, because i am an odd-night hider. Also, I wonder if I am flavored...after all, there was a cop, too.
Why did you lie about hiding with Yay?
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2/24/2014 8:07:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Lynch YYW to confirm him, let mafia kill tonight to eliminate suspects, and we'll reassess tomorrow.
Why lynch YYW? Why not a no lynch?

You said it yourself, not everyone is confirmed townie but you want to lynch YYW. If YYW is town and Mafia NKs a townie then town losses.
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2/24/2014 8:08:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 8:07:15 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Lynch YYW to confirm him, let mafia kill tonight to eliminate suspects, and we'll reassess tomorrow.
Why lynch YYW? Why not a no lynch?
If YYW is deathproof, then it is a no lynch.

You said it yourself, not everyone is confirmed townie but you want to lynch YYW. If YYW is town and Mafia NKs a townie then town losses.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/24/2014 8:09:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 8:08:17 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/24/2014 8:07:15 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Lynch YYW to confirm him, let mafia kill tonight to eliminate suspects, and we'll reassess tomorrow.
Why lynch YYW? Why not a no lynch?
If YYW is deathproof, then it is a no lynch.

You said it yourself, not everyone is confirmed townie but you want to lynch YYW. If YYW is town and Mafia NKs a townie then town losses.
Oh, Deathproof is a role? Hmm, I didn't know that.
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2/24/2014 8:09:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 8:01:23 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Khaos did not hide behind anyone, because i am an odd-night hider. Also, I wonder if I am flavored...after all, there was a cop, too.
Why did you lie about hiding with Yay?

*facepalm
I did hide behind Yay (NP1).
I did not hide behind anyone last night (NP2).
I do not wholly believe my hiding behind Yay confirms him anymore.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/24/2014 8:10:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 8:09:56 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/24/2014 8:01:23 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Khaos did not hide behind anyone, because i am an odd-night hider. Also, I wonder if I am flavored...after all, there was a cop, too.
Why did you lie about hiding with Yay?

*facepalm
I did hide behind Yay (NP1).
I did not hide behind anyone last night (NP2).
I do not wholly believe my hiding behind Yay confirms him anymore.
Damn I need sleep...
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2/24/2014 8:11:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 8:10:54 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 8:09:56 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/24/2014 8:01:23 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Khaos did not hide behind anyone, because i am an odd-night hider. Also, I wonder if I am flavored...after all, there was a cop, too.
Why did you lie about hiding with Yay?

*facepalm
I did hide behind Yay (NP1).
I did not hide behind anyone last night (NP2).
I do not wholly believe my hiding behind Yay confirms him anymore.
Damn I need sleep...

In fairness, I did word it poorly.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/24/2014 8:13:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 7:58:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:55:49 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Darkrai, here.

I am concerned with the mad rush on Josh.
I told you he was town, and you didn't even let him speak XLAV...
Why the rush?
B!tch VTL'ed me.

So?
Were you afraid of his case against you?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/24/2014 8:13:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Here is my analysis so for. This is from the POV that there were only two scum, and one TP. No one has yet disputed this supposition.


LIVING PLAYERS

YYW

Unconfirmed. Claimed to be completely deathproof.

Pots

Confirmed via obviously knowing the Wincon. Khaos seems to be rethinking this, with good reason. I would too, If I were in his shoes.

Khaos

Confirmed via Wincon, plus hiding behind yay. Hider is almost always town.

XLAV

Confirmed via GCL. As far as I am aware, vig is one of the few roles that are town by definition.

Tyler

Unconfirmed. Claimed popular. Soft claimed "masterball" before Wincon had been outed. Personally, I think this is not good enough.

Yay

Confirmed via khaos hiding.

Regardless of whether we started with two or three scum, we can all agree that we are looking to lynch at least two more people. There are two people who are not confirmed. I saw we lynch one of them. I don't care which.

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2/24/2014 8:16:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 8:13:41 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/24/2014 7:56:40 AM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Wow. I did not expect that.

Expect what?

Josh to flip town. He didn't make a single post that I didn't see as scummy.

Dat confirmation bias.
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2/24/2014 8:18:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/24/2014 12:38:29 AM, yay842 wrote:
so Pots must die? ok. GOOD NIGHT PEOPLE
VTL Pots

Why?
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