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Beginners' Mafia 22.2: DP2

bsh1
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3/6/2014 11:15:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LYNCHED LAST DP

Josh - You are the Ninja. You cannot be tracked. You win with the Mafia.

(Jopo, please make you vote easier to see. I am sorry for missing it earlier, but please put it on a separate line. Thanks!)

DIED IN THE NIGHT

Khaos "Ka-pow" Mage - You're the tracker. Ka-pow! You win with the town.

LIVING PLAYERS

XLAV
Fazz
Ford
Oro
Jopo
Tyler
TS
Yay

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 7:30, DDO time, 3/9/14.


Good luck!
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3/7/2014 12:39:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 2:24:24 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/6/2014 11:15:14 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Bsh, where's my mod-confirmation!


^ This would be a really excellent start.
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3/7/2014 1:37:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 2:24:24 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/6/2014 11:15:14 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Bsh, where's my mod-confirmation!


Poof. You're mod-confirmed town. Sorry 'bout that. I was dead last night.
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3/7/2014 2:12:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 1:37:50 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 2:24:24 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/6/2014 11:15:14 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Bsh, where's my mod-confirmation!


Poof. You're mod-confirmed town. Sorry 'bout that. I was dead last night.

Me too.
Ka-Pow!!
My work here is, finally, done.
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3/7/2014 2:44:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
so josh was mafia, and he was dangerously close to being lynched. Jopo hammered with very little time left in the DP, so I think it's safe to say she is probably town. Scum would probably have tried to wait it out. Oro, Tyler, TS... why did none of you vote for Josh? Especially when it was becoming clear we were close to ending DP1 with a no lynch?
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3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)
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3/7/2014 4:08:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 2:44:39 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
so josh was mafia, and he was dangerously close to being lynched. Jopo hammered with very little time left in the DP, so I think it's safe to say she is probably town. Scum would probably have tried to wait it out. Oro, Tyler, TS... why did none of you vote for Josh? Especially when it was becoming clear we were close to ending DP1 with a no lynch?

whoops i just reread the dp and realized i messed up... Jopo wasn't the hammer vote after all. It was yay. Bsh just missed Jopo's vote bc it was in a block of text. So, this makes things interesting. It is unclear if yay knew he was hammering when he cast the final vote, since bsh's vote count incorrectly said josh only had 4 votes on him. therefore, IMO jopo still gets some town cred for vtl'ing, but not as much as she would have gotten for hammering at the last second. Yay on the other hand doesn't gain as much town cred bc we don't know if he intended to hammer or not.

So revised reads are:
Confirmed town: XLAV
slightly town: yay, jopo, fazz
leaning scum: TS, Tyler, Oro
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3/7/2014 4:33:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Oro, Tyler, TS... why did none of you vote for Josh?

I was on the road & out of touch for most of DP1
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3/7/2014 4:40:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)

We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?
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3/7/2014 5:00:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?

Unfortunately I don't have an info role. How can you confirm Tyler is town?
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3/7/2014 9:37:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 9:07:33 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
XLAV what do you think of Oro saying he knows Tyler is town?

He should elaborate why he thinks Tyler is town first. I still think the three of them are possible scums and those who VTL'd Josh could just be bussing him.
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3/7/2014 11:26:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 4:40:35 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)

We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?

actually, I said it wasn't from last time. And no info role.
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3/7/2014 11:28:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 11:26:32 PM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 4:40:35 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)

We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?

actually, I said it wasn't from last time. And no info role.
No info role?

Are you saying you're Vanilla?
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3/7/2014 11:28:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 11:28:19 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/7/2014 11:26:32 PM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 4:40:35 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)

We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?

actually, I said it wasn't from last time. And no info role.
No info role?

Are you saying you're Vanilla?

There was vanilla last time, right?
so no.
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3/7/2014 11:29:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 11:28:54 PM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 11:28:19 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/7/2014 11:26:32 PM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 4:40:35 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)

We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?

actually, I said it wasn't from last time. And no info role.
No info role?

Are you saying you're Vanilla?

There was vanilla last time, right?
so no.
Is you're role useful?
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3/7/2014 11:31:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/7/2014 11:29:20 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/7/2014 11:28:54 PM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 11:28:19 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/7/2014 11:26:32 PM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/7/2014 4:40:35 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 3/7/2014 2:47:38 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
My reads:
confirmed Town: XLAV
leaning town: Jopo due to hammering josh with little time left in the DP
Null: fazz, yay (although both voted to lynch josh, which is good)
leaning scum: Oro, Tyler, TS (didn't vote for josh, weren't very active)

We should be down to 1 scum and 1 TP now. If TP was a serial killer, somebody would have died this last round, so I think we can assume TP is Survivor- which means 1 scum to kill for win.

I can confirm Tyler is town. I've got nothing on TS or Yay. You said your role was from last time- so it seems like odds are good you've got an info role. Can you confirm whether you picked up any info in NP?

actually, I said it wasn't from last time. And no info role.
No info role?

Are you saying you're Vanilla?

There was vanilla last time, right?
so no.
Is your role useful?

fixed. How many new roles are useless?
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3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
My reads:
XLAV - Confirmed Town
Ford - Leaning Town
Yay - Leaning Scum
Jopo - Leaning Scum
Oro - Leaning Scum
Fazz - Null
TS - Null
Tyler - Null

Scum is either Jopo, Oro or Yay.

@Yay - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

@Jopo - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was town?

@Oro - What did you do that made you think Tyler is Town?

Anyone who has the survivor role claim now.
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3/8/2014 12:11:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I am going to a quidditch tournament tomorrow in DC, so I expect to be out of contact for most of the day. I would strongly advise lynching one of the people who didn't vote for josh. I know there's a possibility that someone was bussing him, but i don't think its likely for the following reasons.
1: There's likely only 2 mafia and 1 third party. Three mafia would mean only six town. Not that likely.
2: With only 2 mafia, it would have been very dangerous for them to suffer a loss on DP 1. Thus, bussing would be an extremely risky move for them to make.
3: Especially since at the end of the DP, we were running out of time and it looked like we could end on a no lynch. Any person who was scum would have had a huge incentive to take their vote off of josh saying something like "we just don't have any evidence of his guilt, i'm just not convinced he's scum, let's wait and see..." etc
4: Since nobody did that, and we ended up lynching him at the last second, I think the remaining scum teammate is somebody who didn't vote for josh.

Since I know it looks scummy to say I'll be out of touch for a while, I'll go ahead and full-claim. I am bodyguard. Last night I protected XLAV because I was 99% sure he was town. Unless we confirm someone else this DP, I'll probably protect XLAV again tomorrow night as well.
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3/8/2014 1:36:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
My reads:
XLAV - Confirmed Town
Ford - Leaning Town
Yay - Leaning Scum
Jopo - Leaning Scum
Oro - Leaning Scum
Fazz - Null
TS - Null
Tyler - Null

Scum is either Jopo, Oro or Yay.

@Yay - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

@Jopo - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was town?

@Oro - What did you do that made you think Tyler is Town?

Anyone who has the survivor role claim now.

why do you want survivor to claim?
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3/8/2014 1:37:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/8/2014 1:36:38 AM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
My reads:
XLAV - Confirmed Town
Ford - Leaning Town
Yay - Leaning Scum
Jopo - Leaning Scum
Oro - Leaning Scum
Fazz - Null
TS - Null
Tyler - Null

Scum is either Jopo, Oro or Yay.

@Yay - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

@Jopo - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was town?

@Oro - What did you do that made you think Tyler is Town?

Anyone who has the survivor role claim now.

why do you want survivor to claim?
Why not?
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3/8/2014 1:42:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/8/2014 1:37:16 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/8/2014 1:36:38 AM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
My reads:
XLAV - Confirmed Town
Ford - Leaning Town
Yay - Leaning Scum
Jopo - Leaning Scum
Oro - Leaning Scum
Fazz - Null
TS - Null
Tyler - Null

Scum is either Jopo, Oro or Yay.

@Yay - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

@Jopo - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was town?

@Oro - What did you do that made you think Tyler is Town?

Anyone who has the survivor role claim now.

why do you want survivor to claim?
Why not?

I'm survivor. New role-useless
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3/8/2014 3:25:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/8/2014 1:42:07 AM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/8/2014 1:37:16 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/8/2014 1:36:38 AM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
My reads:
XLAV - Confirmed Town
Ford - Leaning Town
Yay - Leaning Scum
Jopo - Leaning Scum
Oro - Leaning Scum
Fazz - Null
TS - Null
Tyler - Null

Scum is either Jopo, Oro or Yay.

@Yay - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

@Jopo - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was town?

@Oro - What did you do that made you think Tyler is Town?

Anyone who has the survivor role claim now.

why do you want survivor to claim?
Why not?

I'm survivor. New role-useless
Why didn't you VTL Josh in DP1?
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3/8/2014 3:43:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/8/2014 3:25:24 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/8/2014 1:42:07 AM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/8/2014 1:37:16 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 3/8/2014 1:36:38 AM, TS-387 wrote:
At 3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM, XLAV wrote:
My reads:
XLAV - Confirmed Town
Ford - Leaning Town
Yay - Leaning Scum
Jopo - Leaning Scum
Oro - Leaning Scum
Fazz - Null
TS - Null
Tyler - Null

Scum is either Jopo, Oro or Yay.

@Yay - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

@Jopo - http://www.debate.org...
What made you think Josh was town?

@Oro - What did you do that made you think Tyler is Town?

Anyone who has the survivor role claim now.

why do you want survivor to claim?
Why not?

I'm survivor. New role-useless
Why didn't you VTL Josh in DP1?

sorry, I posted my post at 10 pm and I was really tired- I fell asleep pretty much straight afterwards.
You know how I play, based off tf2 mafia and the fandom mafia (but that time I really was mafia, yet still had no idea how to play.)
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3/8/2014 2:10:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Fazz (1/5) - XLAV
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3/8/2014 4:37:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/8/2014 12:04:44 AM, XLAV wrote:

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What made you think Josh was scum and why do you "need" to lynch Jopo?

i dont think he's scum, i just said that because WHY NOT? I dont need to lynch Jopo because I said that because WHY NOT? but in all seriousness, both of those statements were not said by me in the conscious sense. Also, really important, can you get a list of role claims? thanks, cuz im too lazy to read past DP and can base by reads upon thus
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3/8/2014 7:36:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Wow...this is inactive...
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