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Beginners' Mafia 23.1: DP3

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4/13/2014 10:39:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LYNCHED LAST DP

Niqash - You are the bodyguard. Each night you may select a player. Any lethal actions aimed at them will be redirected to you. You win with the mafia.

DIED IN THE NIGHT

XLAV - You are the Cop. Each night you may select a player. You will learn whether or not they win with the town (innocent) or the mafia (guilty.) You win with the town.

GRAVEYARD

Khaos
Mastery
Endark
Niqash
XLAV

LIVING PLAYERS

Lannan
Khaos
Ford
NOTC
Yay

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
DP ends at 11:59pm DDO time, on 4/15/14.


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4/13/2014 11:47:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 11:06:03 PM, yay842 wrote:
so... massive role claim?

Yes. There should only be one scum left, but just in case there's two, nobody should vote and give them a chance to hammer until everyone has full claimed.

I am doctor, NP1 I protected yay and NP2 I protected Khaos.
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4/13/2014 11:53:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 11:47:01 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/13/2014 11:06:03 PM, yay842 wrote:
so... massive role claim?

Yes. There should only be one scum left, but just in case there's two, nobody should vote and give them a chance to hammer until everyone has full claimed.

I am doctor, NP1 I protected yay and NP2 I protected Khaos.

no theres only one scum left, 4 scum does not simply happen, even in a bigass game like Concealment mafia... in which there was only two there anyway
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4/13/2014 11:53:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Also, I am super confused because I definitely thought XLAV was the last remaining scum, since he was the only one who didn't vtl niqash. Khaos is least suspicious right now, because XLAV basically said he copped him NP1, and he was the one who first pointed out we should lynch niqash.

So I'd say either yay or Lannan is the last scum. Lannan makes the most sense to me, because if Lannan was town, then his dream shouldn't have included two scum (niqash and yay). I would suggest lynching lannan today and if that doesn't end the game, we will start DP4 knowing yay is either confirmed town or the last scum.
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4/13/2014 11:58:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 11:53:16 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also, I am super confused because I definitely thought XLAV was the last remaining scum, since he was the only one who didn't vtl niqash. Khaos is least suspicious right now, because XLAV basically said he copped him NP1, and he was the one who first pointed out we should lynch niqash.

So I'd say either yay or Lannan is the last scum. Lannan makes the most sense to me, because if Lannan was town, then his dream shouldn't have included two scum (niqash and yay). I would suggest lynching lannan today and if that doesn't end the game, we will start DP4 knowing yay is either confirmed town or the last scum.

wow totally forgot about NOTC. Probably because he has yet to post. He also should not be scum if Lannan is town. So really, I think it's Lannan, unless he can dream of multiple scum at the same time. Actually I think this exact same issue came up in the last beginner's series, so I'm gonna go back and see what the ruling was on that.
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4/14/2014 12:11:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
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post #64 the dreamer states that at least one of the three names is scum. Same mod, same beginners series, I think same rules. Therefore, even if Lannan is town, NOTC or yay could easily be scum. So,

VTL NOTC

if he is innocent, tomorrow we will know about yay. If he is confirmed as IC, we lynch lannan and win.
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4/14/2014 12:14:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
ATTENTION

XLAV is replacing in for NOTC
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4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
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4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.
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4/14/2014 12:37:56 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.

umm, i dont think you can talk about your past life like that i think
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4/14/2014 12:40:03 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.

You should not overtly reveal any results or actions taken while Cop in this DP. Pretend like you never knew you were Cop.
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4/14/2014 12:44:27 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.

well since you already spilled it
Unvote VTL Ford
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4/14/2014 12:48:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
woops one to hammer
Unvote

we should give Ford a chance
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4/14/2014 12:48:24 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:40:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.

You should not overtly reveal any results or actions taken while Cop in this DP. Pretend like you never knew you were Cop.

I'm not, I'm basing it off my previous reads when I was the cop.
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4/14/2014 12:54:20 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:48:16 AM, yay842 wrote:
woops one to hammer
Unvote

we should give Ford a chance

Jesus thanks yay

XLAV, do not lie. Even if you're not supposed to use previous life knowledge, at least don't lie to the town about your cop results. I am doctor. You are almost definitely scum. You can't blame me for assuming you were scum when you were the only active player to not vote for niqash, who was guilty. I thought you were scum, turns out you were just dumb.

Oh and btw, who was the only other player to not vote for him? That's right, NOTC, who you just conveniently replaced in for.

VTL XLAV
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4/14/2014 12:56:59 AM
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Not that it'll change my mind, but go ahead and make up a fake claim, XLAV. shouldn't be too hard, you don't even have any night actions to fake. Lemme guess, vig?
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4/14/2014 1:13:01 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:56:59 AM, ford_prefect wrote:
Not that it'll change my mind, but go ahead and make up a fake claim, XLAV. shouldn't be too hard, you don't even have any night actions to fake. Lemme guess, vig?

cant be vig, theres been only one night kill throught all 3 NPs, and if you were doctor, that is surprisingly impressive
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4/14/2014 1:14:21 AM
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At 4/14/2014 12:54:20 AM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:48:16 AM, yay842 wrote:
woops one to hammer
Unvote

we should give Ford a chance

Jesus thanks yay

XLAV, do not lie. Even if you're not supposed to use previous life knowledge,
at least don't lie to the town about your cop results. I am doctor. You are almost :definitely scum. You can't blame me for assuming you were scum when you were the : only active player to not vote for niqash, who was guilty. I thought you were scum, :turns out you were just dumb.
Time for your case.

I am not reading you as scum from my past life, I am reading you scummy from my previous life's reads, who was the cop: http://www.debate.org...

So I'm pretty much sheeping from XLAV the First's reads. XLAV the First knew he was going to die so he posted all the information, reads and knowledge from the last DP.

The cop said on his read that TN was town, so TN is town. He did say to trust him when he's dead, right?


Oh and btw, who was the only other player to not vote for him? That's right, NOTC, who you just conveniently replaced in for.
NOTC was INACTIVE. Of course he didn't vote.

Your logic is failing my friend.
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4/14/2014 1:14:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 12:48:24 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:40:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.

You should not overtly reveal any results or actions taken while Cop in this DP. Pretend like you never knew you were Cop.

I'm not, I'm basing it off my previous reads when I was the cop.

which is something that will get you modkilled which is a bad move for town to do. you cant base your your current reads on previous lives. you have to act like you are a completely new person with a new brain
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4/14/2014 1:17:15 AM
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At 4/14/2014 1:14:28 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:48:24 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:40:03 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:35:05 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:17:10 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:15:37 AM, XLAV wrote:
Back from the dead b*tches.

VTL Ford

So fvcking obvious.

how so?
He knows I'm cop last DP and this DP his reason to not doc me is because he thought I was scum.

Bvllshit.

You should not overtly reveal any results or actions taken while Cop in this DP. Pretend like you never knew you were Cop.

I'm not, I'm basing it off my previous reads when I was the cop.

which is something that will get you modkilled which is a bad move for town to do. you cant base your your current reads on previous lives. you have to act like you are a completely new person with a new brain
I am. I am sheeping XLAV the First's reads am I not?
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4/14/2014 1:17:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm going to sleep. I really don't wanna wake up mislynched.

Khaos, in the event that I get lynched, please make sure town kills XLAV next.

Yay, unless XLAV is the redirector, I can make sure you survive to dp4, then you and khaos will both be confirmed and town wins.

Everyone, please read my previous posts this Dp. I guarantee a town victory if we lynch XLAV today. He replaced NOTC, who is the only remaining player who didn't vote for niqash. Also, notice how bsh was willing to start other dps without replacing NOTC, but not this one. Could it be because the other 2 active scum got killed and he needed a replacement for the game to continue? I think that's exactly what happened.
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4/14/2014 1:17:39 AM
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clearly either XLAV or Ford is lying, i dont know whom yet but this DP is crucial, so we should also factor in Khaos's opinion (since Lannan and NOTC is awol) before we decide something
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4/14/2014 1:19:11 AM
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At 4/14/2014 1:13:01 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:56:59 AM, ford_prefect wrote:
Not that it'll change my mind, but go ahead and make up a fake claim, XLAV. shouldn't be too hard, you don't even have any night actions to fake. Lemme guess, vig?

cant be vig, theres been only one night kill throught all 3 NPs, and if you were doctor, that is surprisingly impressive

THAT'S MY POINT is that he can claim whatever the f he wants, NOTC was inactive so we have no way of knowing what actions he took. (obviously he probably didn't take any at all, otherwise he wouldn't have been replaced)
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4/14/2014 1:19:33 AM
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yeah i really cant tell who is lying, ill just go with whatever Khaos says since he is neutral. this would be more weighed in if Lannan was here
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4/14/2014 1:20:38 AM
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At 4/14/2014 1:17:39 AM, yay842 wrote:
clearly either XLAV or Ford is lying, i dont know whom yet but this DP is crucial, so we should also factor in Khaos's opinion (since Lannan and NOTC is awol) before we decide something

I agree, khaos will see through his lies
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4/14/2014 1:22:47 AM
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well Khaos is good at looking through this stuff, as of right now, im gonna side with Ford
Unvote VTL XLAV
im pretty sure Khaos will get it right, so if he sees Ford as scum, ill just VTL Ford, and if he sees XLAV as scum, then ill go with that
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