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trekie
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4/14/2014 2:38:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Lynched Last Phase

Josh_b - You are 'Word of God'. You are the ultimate authority in all things TV Tropes Mafia with a 100% Mod approval rating. As such, you are the MEDIUM. Each night you will learn predetermined information about the game setup.
Affiliation/Win Condition: You win with the Town. The Town wins when it eliminates all opposing factions.

Died Last Night

Lucky_Luciano - You are the 'Wild Card'. As long as you get what you want you couldn"t care less about who do you have to sell out in the process. You are the SURVIVOR. When you are night killed for the first time you have the option to either a) die and change your original win-condition to win with the Town, or b) survive and modify your original win condition to allow for a joint win with the Mafia.
Affiliation/Win Condition: You win with Yourself. You win if you survive until either faction meets its win condition.

Previously Dead
Zaradi - Mafia JOAT
Noumena/Fazz - Town JOAT

Livivng Players
1. XLAV
2. TN05
3. Khaos_Mage
4. Skepsikyma
5. TUF
6. Yay
7. Mastery
8. SolonKR
9. ford_prefect

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch or end the DP in a "No Lynch.".

Time Limit: ~48 hours
4/16/2014 11:59 PM Central Time (DDO time)
4/17/2014 6:59 AM Central European Time
4/17/2014 2:59 PM Australian Eastern Standard Time
ford_prefect
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4/14/2014 2:59:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 2:47:59 AM, XLAV wrote:
Great, mafia NK'd the self-win survivor.

This is the most likely scenario. However, it is also possible that town vig'd him and mafia's kill failed for whatever reason.
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4/14/2014 7:23:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 2:56:44 AM, trekie wrote:
A bit of a clarification: Lucky's win-condition changed to winnig with the Town posthumusly.

Ohhh, so it is a posthumous choice.
I like it!!
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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4/14/2014 12:08:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL TUF
Has he said anything?

If we don't have any solid leads, I suggest either inactive or Skep.
My work here is, finally, done.
XLAV
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4/14/2014 12:12:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 12:08:14 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
VTL TUF
Has he said anything?

If we don't have any solid leads, I suggest either inactive or Skep.

Why Skep?
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4/14/2014 12:35:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 12:12:39 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:08:14 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
VTL TUF
Has he said anything?

If we don't have any solid leads, I suggest either inactive or Skep.

Why Skep?

Miller claim is scummy.
CC is townie.
Zaradi being uberpowerful is townie, although WIFOM (would Zaradi do that to himself? It's been said he is quite manipulative as scum).
Hammering to end the DP on a mislynch is scummy.
My work here is, finally, done.
ford_prefect
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4/14/2014 1:23:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Why Skep?

Miller claim is scummy.
CC is townie.
Zaradi being uberpowerful is townie, although WIFOM (would Zaradi do that to himself? It's been said he is quite manipulative as scum).
Hammering to end the DP on a mislynch is scummy.

Yeah I actually really want to hear more from skep than his "oh well, at least we will know from who voted!" That sounded way too casual. Maybe he was overestimating how much town cred he got from ccing earlier.
SolonKR
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4/14/2014 4:54:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm going to pressure Skep.
VTL Skep

Perhaps we can allow this day phase to last longer than 37 posts...
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Skepsikyma
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4/14/2014 9:08:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SolonKR wrote:
I'm going to pressure Skep.
VTL Skep

Perhaps we can allow this day phase to last longer than 37 posts...

Pressure me for what?
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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4/14/2014 9:19:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:08:26 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 4/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SolonKR wrote:
I'm going to pressure Skep.
VTL Skep

Perhaps we can allow this day phase to last longer than 37 posts...

Pressure me for what?

probably for abruptly hammering josh, resulting in not only a mislynch but also the complete waste of a DP. Why did you do it?
yay842
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4/14/2014 9:24:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Skep

seems like the thing to do
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4/14/2014 9:39:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:26:30 PM, XLAV wrote:
DON'T HAMMER SKEP.

We need this DP to discuss.

but seriously guys...
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4/14/2014 9:44:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
"lets lynch this guy because i want the DP to be over" ~Skep (paraphrase)
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4/14/2014 9:45:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:44:28 PM, yay842 wrote:
"lets lynch this guy because i want the DP to be over" ~Skep (paraphrase)

lol basically
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4/14/2014 9:45:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:45:12 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:44:28 PM, yay842 wrote:
"lets lynch this guy because i want the DP to be over" ~Skep (paraphrase)

lol basically

how is that simply not scummy?
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4/14/2014 9:46:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
but yea, dont hammer yet, we can gather some intel before proceeding
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Skepsikyma
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4/14/2014 9:49:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:24:11 PM, yay842 wrote:
VTL Skep

seems like the thing to do

I did it because of this. Josh was scummy, he was either an incompetent town player who would get himself lynched and always throw the veracity of his predictions into doubt until he was, or a mafia player who would string us along with false predictions. By killing him we verified his prediction by learning his affiliation outright. But that wasn't the primary reason. I had scum reads on a few people, and Lucky was one of them. However, everyone was being extremely cautious. I figured that if I hammered someone without explanation the town players would be confused, and begin asking questions. The scum, on the other hand, would begin driving for my lynch immediately, because only they could be assured of my affiliation. As FT drilled into my head repeatedly, behavior is the best indicator of affiliation. I recommend a DP of extended behavioral analysis. I also would not blame you for lynching me; I suspect that there are two, maybe three at the most, scum players remaining. If that must happen, at least it will cause you to take my advice to heart. But, first: reads, claims, and results.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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4/14/2014 9:53:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:19:46 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:08:26 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 4/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SolonKR wrote:
I'm going to pressure Skep.
VTL Skep

Perhaps we can allow this day phase to last longer than 37 posts...

Pressure me for what?

probably for abruptly hammering josh, resulting in not only a mislynch but also the complete waste of a DP. Why did you do it?

Pressuring isn't necessary. The only time it can be justified (albeit flimsily) is when you are driving for a claim. Did anyone really think I would just walk into this DP like nothing happened? I find the immediate pressure slightly suspicious.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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4/14/2014 9:54:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:53:13 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:19:46 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:08:26 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 4/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SolonKR wrote:
I'm going to pressure Skep.
VTL Skep

Perhaps we can allow this day phase to last longer than 37 posts...

Pressure me for what?

probably for abruptly hammering josh, resulting in not only a mislynch but also the complete waste of a DP. Why did you do it?

Pressuring isn't necessary. The only time it can be justified (albeit flimsily) is when you are driving for a claim. Did anyone really think I would just walk into this DP like nothing happened? I find the immediate pressure slightly suspicious.

more or less suspicious than hammering a townie 37 posts into a DP?
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4/14/2014 9:59:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 9:54:04 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:53:13 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:19:46 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 4/14/2014 9:08:26 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 4/14/2014 4:54:55 PM, SolonKR wrote:
I'm going to pressure Skep.
VTL Skep

Perhaps we can allow this day phase to last longer than 37 posts...

Pressure me for what?

probably for abruptly hammering josh, resulting in not only a mislynch but also the complete waste of a DP. Why did you do it?

Pressuring isn't necessary. The only time it can be justified (albeit flimsily) is when you are driving for a claim. Did anyone really think I would just walk into this DP like nothing happened? I find the immediate pressure slightly suspicious.

more or less suspicious than hammering a townie 37 posts into a DP?

That was intended to be suspicious. It's so suspicious that it pretty much disqualifies me from being mafia; why on earth would I bus a powerful scum player for massive town cred, and then blow it all on hammering a character who was, from what I could see, going to be lynched anyway, and who proved no threat playstyle-wise to the mafia, and who could act as a useful distraction? The scum motivation just isn't there.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
trekie
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4/15/2014 1:15:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Vote Count
"Go ahead. Make my day."

TUF (1/5) - Khaos
Skep (2/5) - SolonKR, Yay

~26 hours remaining. (I messed up the times in the OP, so please, disregard them.)
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4/15/2014 2:36:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/14/2014 12:08:14 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
VTL TUF
Has he said anything?

If we don't have any solid leads, I suggest either inactive or Skep.

Mwahaha, I have replaced TUF and I will lead this town to victory. Sheep me Khaos the mage!

(I don't have a vote yet, I'll read this tonight or tomorrow.)
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4/15/2014 3:31:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/15/2014 2:36:30 AM, Yraelz wrote:
At 4/14/2014 12:08:14 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
VTL TUF
Has he said anything?

If we don't have any solid leads, I suggest either inactive or Skep.

Mwahaha, I have replaced TUF and I will lead this town to victory. Sheep me Khaos the mage!

(I don't have a vote yet, I'll read this tonight or tomorrow.)

Trekie: Is this legit?