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4/26/2014 12:04:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Town wins!

TOWN


Endark - You are DAYTONANERD. Whenever YYW and I seem to flirt...you always pop up to add your wry innuendo to the discussion. Yet, I have the strangest feeling that you're actually enjoy reading the convos more than you admit. Therefore, you are the 2-shot VOYEUR. Each night you may select another player. You will learn what actions, if any, were performed on them, but not who visited.

Lannan - You are AIRMAX. Because you are the mod, and can prevent people from being on DDO when they raise your ire, you are the 2-shot ROLEBLOCKER. You may select a player. That player will be unable to use their role that NP.

Niqash - You are KHAOS_MAGE. You are paranoid and way to suspicious of everyone and everything. Consequently, you can sometimes be a bit reactionary, and are the 2-shot VIGILANTE. You may select a player per night for death. You win with the town.

(Hidden Mod Note: Because you are paranoid, you are Paranoid. You roleblock your target.)

Mikal - You are TULLE. Because you are sweet, charming, well-liked, and have a fantastic voice, you are DDO's very own princess. Therefore, you are the BELOVED PRINCESS. If lynched, the next DP will be skipped. If NK'd, the next NP will be skipped. You win with the town.

GCL - You are MIKAL. You have motivated the community to embark on a new live mafia adventure, as well as been a model for debaters and voters alike. You are positive, you give of yourself, and you are always encouraging people to do better. Therefore, you are the 2-shot MOTIVATOR. During the night, you may select a player. That player will be able to use that role and extra time during that NP. This applies only to active roles. You win with the town.

Khaos - You are YYW. Sexy, tall, deep-voiced, and occasionally sassy, you are my knight in shining armor. You are always there to lend support and advice, and therefore, you are the SERAPH KNIGHT. On NP1 you may select one other player as your true love. As long as you live in all your knightly glory, your true love is protected from all NKs. You win with the town.

XLAV - You are THETT3. You are funny in a very nerdy, yet absolutely charming, fashion. You're lighthearted insouciances, hilarious megalomania, and general friendliness have made you a hit. Therefore, you are POPULAR. It takes on extra vote to lynch you. You win with the town.

MAFIA

Ford - You are GWL-CPA. Because you are a weird old looney who thinks everything is some big conspiracy, you are the odd-night PGO. Anyone visiting you on odd-nights will be killed.

Yay - You are IZBO10. Because you are a legend among DDO's trolls and troubles makers, you are the even-night STRONGMAN. Every even night, if you carry out the mafia NK, you will bypass any protective abilities your victim has shielding them.

TS - You are ANDOCTUIR. Because you constantly are using your outdated and weird psychoanalytic theories to try to read people and get inside their minds, you are the 2-shot ROLE COP. You may select a player and learn their ability, but not their affiliation.

NIGHT ACTIONS


NP1

Khaos - Prt. Lannan
Lannan - Rlbk. Khaos
Niqash - Vig Ford (rlbk. PGO)
Ford - NK Khaos
TS - Rlcp. Niqash

NP2

Lannan - No Action
Niqash - Vig Yay (rlbk. Stmn)
Yay - Stmn NK Lannan
Endark - Voy. Mikal
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4/26/2014 12:10:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Theme could've been interpreted in two ways:

1. People on DDO vs. People no longer on DDO
2. Productive Users vs. Twits
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4/26/2014 12:11:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:10:50 AM, bsh1 wrote:
Theme could've been interpreted in two ways:

1. People on DDO vs. People no longer on DDO
Could be.

2. Productive Users vs. Twits
This is subjective though.
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4/26/2014 12:13:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:11:49 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:10:50 AM, bsh1 wrote:
Theme could've been interpreted in two ways:

1. People on DDO vs. People no longer on DDO
Could be.

GWL and Izbo were perm-banned. AnDoc left awhile ago.

2. Productive Users vs. Twits
This is subjective though.

Mod-psych is inherently subjective. You needed to get inside my mind and ask, "who would bsh1 think was a bad/non-productive user." That is why theme analysis can occasionally be risky, because it is subjective.
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4/26/2014 12:32:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:06:06 AM, XLAV wrote:
Fvcking knew it. Yay was mafia.

yeah i knew i mafia was screwed when Ford died so i just hammered TS
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4/26/2014 12:34:20 AM
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i think MVP goes to Niqash, he had nailed the right actions and figured out all the scum
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4/26/2014 12:37:21 AM
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At 4/26/2014 12:34:20 AM, yay842 wrote:
i think MVP goes to Niqash, he had nailed the right actions and figured out all the scum

Lol, everytime the mafia kills Khaos first I always assume the mafia consist of noobs + Yay.
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4/26/2014 12:37:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:34:20 AM, yay842 wrote:
i think MVP goes to Niqash, he had nailed the right actions and figured out all the scum

I don't do superlatives in beginners' games.
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4/26/2014 12:41:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:37:58 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
So, how did Ford die without someone else dying?

Niqash was a paranoid vig, so he also roleblocks his target.
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4/26/2014 12:43:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:41:46 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:37:58 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
So, how did Ford die without someone else dying?

Niqash was a paranoid vig, so he also roleblocks his target.

Ahhh.
IMO, he should still have died.

Also, Lannan, you bastard. I was going to protect you.
My work here is, finally, done.
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4/26/2014 12:47:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:43:03 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:41:46 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:37:58 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
So, how did Ford die without someone else dying?

Niqash was a paranoid vig, so he also roleblocks his target.

Ahhh.
IMO, he should still have died.

I thought a lot about that one, and I decided that, because NKs are decided last, that the roleblocking took precedence to the NK. Otherwise, both Ford and Niqash would've perished.

Also, Lannan, you bastard. I was going to protect you.

Lol...that was so ironic.
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4/26/2014 12:48:05 AM
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In hindsight, there were way to many killing roles in this game.
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4/26/2014 12:54:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:47:35 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:43:03 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:41:46 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:37:58 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
So, how did Ford die without someone else dying?

Niqash was a paranoid vig, so he also roleblocks his target.

Ahhh.
IMO, he should still have died.

I thought a lot about that one, and I decided that, because NKs are decided last, that the roleblocking took precedence to the NK. Otherwise, both Ford and Niqash would've perished.

I would have RB'd the PGO, but still have died, so if another visitor arrived, they'd have survived. The death is the last to resolve, but is triggered by the visit.

But, to each his own.
Some mods don't allow the doctor to protect the NK, if the doc also dies.
Personally, if I had a jailkeeper jail a mafioso in charge of the NK, it would negate it. I think only me and Lucky would agree on that.

The important thing is to be consistent.

Also, Lannan, you bastard. I was going to protect you.

Lol...that was so ironic.

Honestly, I expected him to.
I was hoping he wouldn't, but what could I do.
I very well couldn't claim your crush and expect to live, could I?
It's not like there would have been any protection for me.
My work here is, finally, done.
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4/26/2014 12:56:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:54:11 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:47:35 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:43:03 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:41:46 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:37:58 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
So, how did Ford die without someone else dying?

Niqash was a paranoid vig, so he also roleblocks his target.

Ahhh.
IMO, he should still have died.

I thought a lot about that one, and I decided that, because NKs are decided last, that the roleblocking took precedence to the NK. Otherwise, both Ford and Niqash would've perished.

I would have RB'd the PGO, but still have died, so if another visitor arrived, they'd have survived. The death is the last to resolve, but is triggered by the visit.

I re-thought that as well, and no longer believe that.

But, to each his own.
Some mods don't allow the doctor to protect the NK, if the doc also dies.
Personally, if I had a jailkeeper jail a mafioso in charge of the NK, it would negate it. I think only me and Lucky would agree on that.

I agree with that.

The important thing is to be consistent.

Also, Lannan, you bastard. I was going to protect you.

Lol...that was so ironic.

Honestly, I expected him to.
I was hoping he wouldn't, but what could I do.
I very well couldn't claim your crush and expect to live, could I?

More than a crush, lol...

It's not like there would have been any protection for me.
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4/26/2014 1:03:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 12:56:47 AM, bsh1 wrote:

More than a crush, lol...
I don't know the status of your relationship.
He could be your husband. I wouldn't know.

The fact is, I highly doubted there was any protection other than me, so I couldn't claim.
I would have DP2, and forced the NK to me, hoping a watcher.

Would the strongman have overridden my protection?
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4/26/2014 1:05:36 AM
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At 4/26/2014 1:03:56 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:56:47 AM, bsh1 wrote:

More than a crush, lol...
I don't know the status of your relationship.
He could be your husband. I wouldn't know.

We're "e-dating."

The fact is, I highly doubted there was any protection other than me, so I couldn't claim.
I would have DP2, and forced the NK to me, hoping a watcher.

Would the strongman have overridden my protection?

Yes, but I tried to de-power mafia by making PGO and Strongman alternating, and by limiting the rolecops shots.
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4/26/2014 1:07:23 AM
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At 4/26/2014 12:37:21 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:34:20 AM, yay842 wrote:
i think MVP goes to Niqash, he had nailed the right actions and figured out all the scum

Lol, everytime the mafia kills Khaos first I always assume the mafia consist of noobs + Yay.

no, Khaos has always been the first NK or lynch in 69% of all mafia games. true story. have you ever seen Khaos gone beyond NP2?
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4/26/2014 1:10:24 AM
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At 4/26/2014 1:07:23 AM, yay842 wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:37:21 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:34:20 AM, yay842 wrote:
i think MVP goes to Niqash, he had nailed the right actions and figured out all the scum

Lol, everytime the mafia kills Khaos first I always assume the mafia consist of noobs + Yay.

no, Khaos has always been the first NK or lynch in 69% of all mafia games. true story. have you ever seen Khaos gone beyond NP2?

On my first beginner series, I think he made it until the end and he was mafia.

So the lesson here children is, if Khaos made it to DP2 that means he's scum!
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4/26/2014 1:16:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/26/2014 1:05:36 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/26/2014 1:03:56 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:56:47 AM, bsh1 wrote:

More than a crush, lol...
I don't know the status of your relationship.
He could be your husband. I wouldn't know.

We're "e-dating."
I have no idea what that means, or what dating means in the gay community.
Alas, it's almost like we aren't in the same age group.
My work here is, finally, done.
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4/26/2014 1:18:37 AM
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At 4/26/2014 1:16:29 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 1:05:36 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/26/2014 1:03:56 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/26/2014 12:56:47 AM, bsh1 wrote:

More than a crush, lol...
I don't know the status of your relationship.
He could be your husband. I wouldn't know.

We're "e-dating."
I have no idea what that means, or what dating means in the gay community.

Dating for gay guys is the same thing as dating for straight guys, they just do it with other guys instead of girls. "E-dating" means that we flirt shamelessly, and as soon as we can meet IRL, we'll probably spend the weekend in bed together.

Alas, it's almost like we aren't in the same age group.

I know, right?
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