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Chaos Theory Mafia - DP2

Khaos_Mage
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4/30/2014 7:44:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
"I finally figured out that not every crisis can be managed. As much as we want to keep ourselves safe, we can't protect ourselves from everything. If we want to embrace life, we also have to embrace chaos.""
-"Susan Elizabeth Phillips,"Breathing Room

Died in the night:
Lannan:

"You must carry a chaos inside you to give birth to a dancing star.""
R13; Nietzsche
Your role is CHAOS. You win with mayhem.

Lynched last DP:
XLAV:

"Here's to those who love the quiet, but thrive in chaos.""
R13;"Verscon
Your role is CHAOS. You have a secondary passive role of CHAOS. You win with mayhem.

Living players:
1. Yraelz/FT
2. Niqash.
3. TN05
4. Lucky
5. Bullish
6. Ford
7. bsh1
8. yay
9. josh-B
10. Zaradi
11. SeventhProfessor (replacing Mikal)
12.withers

The DP ends in 48 hours.
With 12 alive, it takes seven to lynch.
My work here is, finally, done.
FourTrouble
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4/30/2014 7:46:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Lannan was scum? Not expected.
Anyway, pretty sure last scum is Bullish or Lucky. Both awkwardly defended Xlav. I targeted Bullish last night hoping I was vig. He didn't die though so... no idea what my role is.

VTL Bullish
FourTrouble
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4/30/2014 7:48:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Also, whoever targeted Lannan is a vig. Apparently. Or Lannan visited a PGO. Who knows. Also, no night-kill. Which means someone was protected and that person is town.

I'm kinda curious to see how all the chaotic roles panned out.
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4/30/2014 7:52:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I can't post much now, and won't be able to until tomorrow evening (although I'll probably be exhausted and put it off until Friday morning). I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong about XLAV. I'm going to drop my claim because I will probably be pressured this DP. I'm only going to be on for a few minutes but I have a question I'm asking Khaos that could be very important.

There's not many ways to give my quote/author without C&P, so if I get modkilled whatever:

"Invention, it must be humbly admitted, does not consist in creating out of void but out of chaos.""
R13;"Mary Shelley
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 7:56:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Anyhoo, my question to Khaos was whether people given items would be informed. I thought I was an inventor based on the quote, but didn't know how I would submit a night action so I assumed I give out the same item every night. I targeted myself and decided to ask the question to see if perhaps I gave myself a BP vest. He said that people would be informed of receiving items and I was not informed, so that is ruled out. I don't see myself being a doctor with the quote I got, so I don't think that is an option either. I was not informed of any effects nor did I receive any results. ITT: I have no clue what my role is.
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 7:58:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Also according to Khaos, if an inventor were in the game they would choose a player and a random gift would be given. In other words, unless I was role blocked then I am definitely not an inventor. Let me check what Khaos said about role blocks and people being informed.
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 7:58:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 7:55:26 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Okay, so last night I got 7.....I don't understand...

7. Lucky. Lucky number 7. Half-life 3 confirmed!
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:02:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Okay, people aren't informed if they are role blocked. So maybe I am an inventor and I didn't get to use my role last night. Fvck if I know. I wonder how Khaos expected the NPs to go...

Zaradi, what night action did you submit last night?
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4/30/2014 8:05:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 7:46:27 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
Lannan was scum? Not expected.
Anyway, pretty sure last scum is Bullish or Lucky. Both awkwardly defended Xlav. I targeted Bullish last night hoping I was vig. He didn't die though so... no idea what my role is.

VTL Bullish

I would agree that there is 1 scum left. 3 scum means the game has 2.5 mislynches. 4 scum would make it 1.5 and that seems unreasonable. On a side note, given that 2 scum died before the first town death, that would make the game 11 town 1 mafia. That gives us 4.5 mislynches.
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:06:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Given that the game is either 1v11 or 2v10, most likely 1v11 (remember Khaos said no TP), we should mass claim and try to figure out what our characters/quotes mean.
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:07:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
FT, what about my defense of XLAV in particular was awkward?
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Zaradi
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4/30/2014 8:10:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:02:02 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Okay, people aren't informed if they are role blocked. So maybe I am an inventor and I didn't get to use my role last night. Fvck if I know. I wonder how Khaos expected the NPs to go...

Zaradi, what night action did you submit last night?

Well if I knew that...
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:10:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I need to reread DP1 to look for interactions now that we have two dead mafia, but I'm going to log off for the night. My vote is going to sit on bsh1 for the same reasons as last DP, blatant lying and mischaracterization is scum motivated. VTL bsh1.

Something to note, I doubt an experienced player is the last mafioso (FT/Yraelz, Mikal, Zaradi, Me) because Khaos was upset with the team balance. Now that's just my word on what Khaos said, so I don't expect anyone to believe it, but consider it at least.
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:11:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:10:29 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/30/2014 8:02:02 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Okay, people aren't informed if they are role blocked. So maybe I am an inventor and I didn't get to use my role last night. Fvck if I know. I wonder how Khaos expected the NPs to go...

Zaradi, what night action did you submit last night?

Well if I knew that...

I mean who did you target?
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:12:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:12:04 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Josh, who did you visit last night?

Why does it matter?
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:15:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
FT/Yraelz, can you do a meta-analysis of how Lannan interacted with scum teammates in past games?
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Zaradi
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4/30/2014 8:15:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:12:30 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 4/30/2014 8:12:04 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Josh, who did you visit last night?

Why does it matter?

Seriously? Even a 4 year old could reason this one out.
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:16:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Just a thought, both Lannan and bsh1 jumped on me when I posted my role claim from another game. It was cleared up before bsh1 posted. What if in the mafia pm somebody said to attack me on my claim and bsh1 just jumped on without reading? That's probably tin-foil hat stuff, I'm tired. Zaradi answer my question so I can sleep. -_-
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Lucky_Luciano
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4/30/2014 8:16:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:15:12 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/30/2014 8:12:30 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 4/30/2014 8:12:04 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Josh, who did you visit last night?

Why does it matter?

Seriously? Even a 4 year old could reason this one out.

Shh.
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TN05
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4/30/2014 8:28:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Awesome results!

If it helps anyone, I used my role, whatever it was, on Lucky last night.
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4/30/2014 8:36:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I targeted Yraelz/FT. I received the following results:

Josh, Lannan, Lucky, Niqash
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4/30/2014 8:39:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:36:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I targeted Yraelz/FT. I received the following results:

Josh, Lannan, Lucky, Niqash

Whelp, we know what you are now.
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4/30/2014 8:41:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
My quote:

"I accept chaos, I'm not sure whether it accepts me.""
- Bob Dylan

After looking at my results, I am not sure what I am. It is possible I am a tracker, watcher, some dreamer variant, etc.

Frankly, though, seeing Lucky's name makes me feel disinclined to believe that he visited no one. Of course, since I don't know my role, that's only a feeling, and insufficient to lynch on, but still.

@FT/Yraelz - Can we lynch Lucky instead?
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4/30/2014 8:41:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:39:42 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 4/30/2014 8:36:25 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I targeted Yraelz/FT. I received the following results:

Josh, Lannan, Lucky, Niqash

Whelp, we know what you are now.

What am I? Excuse me if I haven't quite figured it out yet.
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4/30/2014 8:43:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/30/2014 8:16:06 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Just a thought, both Lannan and bsh1 jumped on me when I posted my role claim from another game. It was cleared up before bsh1 posted. What if in the mafia pm somebody said to attack me on my claim and bsh1 just jumped on without reading? That's probably tin-foil hat stuff, I'm tired. Zaradi answer my question so I can sleep. -_-

Lol...LAME.
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