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Beginners' Mafia 24.3: ENDGAME

bsh1
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5/10/2014 2:53:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Mafia wins!

1st Place: MAFIA

rross - You are PINOCHLE. Because you not only speak during the auction, but because you can communicate with your partner and learn about their deck secondhand, you are the INFORMANT. Each night you may select another player. If that player receives information as a result of their role, or game-related messages from the mod, you will receive a copy of those messages.

XLAV - You are POKER. Because you have so many variants that apply to a diverse panoply of people, you are the JOAT. You have the following 1x abilities: Bulletproof, Roleblocker, Ninja.

Wylted - You are SLAP JACK. Because the game is purely random, where the Jacks appear and whether you can spot and slap them are more chance than skill, you are the 1-shot RANDOMIZER. During one NP, you may select another player. If that player receives information as a result of their role, or game-related messages from the mod, you will receive a copy of those messages.

2nd Place: THIRD PARTY

Oro - You are CHARADES. You bore the living sh!t out of people, causing them to drop like flies from your party. Therefore, you are the SERIAL KILLER. Each night you MUST select a player for death. You win when all other players are dead.

3rd Place: TOWN

Khaos - You are RISK. Because the whole goal of the game is to obliterate the opposing factions, you are the even-night VIGILANTE. Ka-pow!

Lannan - You are PERFECTION. Because you sense/see when your board isn't full, you are the SENSOR. Once per game, you may learn how many mafia voted on the previous day's lynch. You win with the town.

Niqash - You are CLUE. Because your goal is to unearth the identity of the villain, you are the 2-shot ROLE COP. You may twice select a player. You will learn their role, but not their affiliation. You win with the town.

Angel - You are OPERATION. Because your goal is to save someone, you are the DOCTOR. Each night you may select a player. That player will be saved from any lethal actions aimed at them. You win with the town.

Endark - You are LIFE. Because you track the path of your pieces through their lives, you are the TRACKER. Each night you may select a player. You will learn who that player visits. You win with the town.

Josh - You are SCRABBLE. Because you're just an average party game, one that is either everyone's last choice or compromise decision, you are VANILLA. You have no role. You win with the town.

Pots - You are CANDYLAND. Because you can't really control what's going on in the game, after all, everything is determined by the shuffle of the cards, you're not really affected by much (besides random chance.) Therefore you are the ASCETIC. You are unaffected by non-lethal actions. You win with the town.

NIGHT ACTIONS

NP1

Niqash - Rcp. Josh
Endark - Trk. Josh
Oro - NK Niqash
Angel - Doc XLAV
XLAV - Rlbk. Khaos
Rross - Inform Endark
XLAV - NK Khaos

NP2

Wylted NKs Pots
Oro - NK Rross
Angel - Doc Rross

MOD COMMENTS

Despite the presence of the Serial Killer, I called the game here because it was mathematically impossible for him to win. If Angel had not doctored rross, there would've been a DP3 because the SK could, in theory, still have won. There was no way, after DP2 that town could possibly have pulled out a victory in this game, hence their last-place finish. The theme was Card Games vs. Board Games vs. Activities.

It sure was a deadly party ;)
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5/10/2014 3:07:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 3:05:04 PM, Wylted wrote:
Wtf was angel thinking.

Actually she had you and XLAV pegged as mafia...so she wasn't doing that badly.
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5/10/2014 3:19:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 3:05:04 PM, Wylted wrote:
Wtf was angel thinking.

idk i honestly thought she was just bandwagoning in lynching endark
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5/10/2014 3:20:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 3:03:35 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
I figured out XLAV easily. Rross and Wylted played out well, and I suppose Oro NK-ed me randomly.

Only because your game CLUE suggested the likliest informational role
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5/10/2014 4:14:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 3:19:12 PM, AngelofDeath wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:05:04 PM, Wylted wrote:
Wtf was angel thinking.

idk i honestly thought she was just bandwagoning in lynching endark

What other options were there? Pots and oro both seemed guilty and Josh was absent. Wylted was the guiltiest but nobody looked town at that point.

Lol. I thought Angel was the sk. :) because angel of death.
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5/10/2014 4:23:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:22:23 PM, rross wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:07:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Thanks for modding, bsh1 and solon. :)

You're welcome :)
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5/10/2014 4:25:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:14:18 PM, rross wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:19:12 PM, AngelofDeath wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:05:04 PM, Wylted wrote:
Wtf was angel thinking.

idk i honestly thought she was just bandwagoning in lynching endark

What other options were there? Pots and oro both seemed guilty and Josh was absent. Wylted was the guiltiest but nobody looked town at that point.

Lol. I thought Angel was the sk. :) because angel of death.

The roles were random....
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5/10/2014 4:30:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:25:06 PM, AngelofDeath wrote:

What other options were there? Pots and oro both seemed guilty and Josh was absent. Wylted was the guiltiest but nobody looked town at that point.

Lol. I thought Angel was the sk. :) because angel of death.

The roles were random....

I know but you said your character was who you are, and later you said the doctor/operation thing. It seemed weak to me. lol. Although obviously it wasn't.

I'm amazed how I've read so much wrong in this game. Mostly overthinking stuff.
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5/10/2014 4:36:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well, I was right about those three. I should have trusted my gut on Lannan.
Wylted and XLAV were the targets.

Angel, why didn't you protect me?
Why did you town lynch ER? Really, a sensor, cop, watcher, AND tracker?
My work here is, finally, done.
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5/10/2014 4:38:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:36:39 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Well, I was right about those three. I should have trusted my gut on Lannan.
Wylted and XLAV were the targets.

Angel, why didn't you protect me?
Why did you town lynch ER? Really, a sensor, cop, watcher, AND tracker?

Potts said he was following SOP. In game 2 weren't you advocating for blindly following SOP.
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5/10/2014 4:39:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:26:57 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:15:29 PM, rross wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:01:46 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
Lol. Rross was Mafia.

=D

By the way, a new episode is out. http://www.debate.org...

I need a break before I play this again.
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5/10/2014 4:39:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:39:04 PM, rross wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:26:57 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:15:29 PM, rross wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:01:46 PM, NiqashMotawadi3 wrote:
Lol. Rross was Mafia.

=D

By the way, a new episode is out. http://www.debate.org...

I need a break before I play this again.

I don't mean an episode of this.
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5/10/2014 4:42:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:38:38 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:36:39 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Well, I was right about those three. I should have trusted my gut on Lannan.
Wylted and XLAV were the targets.

Angel, why didn't you protect me?
Why did you town lynch ER? Really, a sensor, cop, watcher, AND tracker?

Potts said he was following SOP. In game 2 weren't you advocating for blindly following SOP.

It is not SOP to blindly follow an unconfirmed result, with the game potentially on the line, with too many investigation roles in the game.

The watcher/tracker issue was fine, but you adding the CC was too much, and proved to me that you and rross were scum.
I did not think there were three mafia and SK, however.
My work here is, finally, done.
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5/10/2014 4:43:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:36:39 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Well, I was right about those three. I should have trusted my gut on Lannan.
Wylted and XLAV were the targets.

Angel, why didn't you protect me?
Why did you town lynch ER? Really, a sensor, cop, watcher, AND tracker?

Actually there was only one town vote on the er lynch. It was hardly a town lynch.

And yeah. I didn't actually want wylted to cc (then there would be no tracker role) but it worked so it was a good decision.
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5/10/2014 4:44:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:42:33 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:38:38 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:36:39 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Well, I was right about those three. I should have trusted my gut on Lannan.
Wylted and XLAV were the targets.

Angel, why didn't you protect me?
Why did you town lynch ER? Really, a sensor, cop, watcher, AND tracker?

Potts said he was following SOP. In game 2 weren't you advocating for blindly following SOP.

It is not SOP to blindly follow an unconfirmed result, with the game potentially on the line, with too many investigation roles in the game.

The watcher/tracker issue was fine, but you adding the CC was too much, and proved to me that you and rross were scum.
I did not think there were three mafia and SK, however.

Me either. I thought the exta death came from a PGO.
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5/10/2014 4:45:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
To the mods, mafia was overpowered in the game.
Town needed a BP.

Mafia had protection for one night, learned information, and redirected the few actions we had. Or, at least, I should have been a normal vig.

Regardless, with SK and mafia, the game is lost by town with one mislynch with bad luck.
7:3:1
6:3:1
4:3:1
Town already needs to buddy with scum to win.
My work here is, finally, done.
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5/10/2014 4:49:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:44:03 PM, Wylted wrote:
Do you understand why it is not SOP at late stages in the game to blindly follow a cop or CC?
My work here is, finally, done.
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5/10/2014 4:51:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:49:17 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 5/10/2014 4:44:03 PM, Wylted wrote:
Do you understand why it is not SOP at late stages in the game to blindly follow a cop or CC?

I can see, but I thought sop was

X action if Y occurs.

Not X action if Y occurs plus these variables are in place.

SOP seemed very shallow and 1 dimensional. Where is this SOP, so I can examine it?
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5/10/2014 6:46:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/10/2014 4:22:23 PM, rross wrote:
At 5/10/2014 3:07:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Thanks for modding, bsh1 and solon. :)

You're welcome :D

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