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Beginners' Mafia 27.2: DP1

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7/8/2014 7:30:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION - Third Parties and Misinformation

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Depending on the game and the mod, third parties win by themselves, when certain conditions are met, or can win with either the Town or the Mafia.

This game also introduces the concept of flavors. Flavors are the adjectives of Mafia, altering how roles work. Here are some common flavors:

Even/Odd - Roles with these modifiers can only work on Even or Odd-numbered Night Phases
X-Shot - Roles with these modifiers can only be used X number of times.

(these flavors are usually made known to the player.)

Paranoid - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all Guilty-type results. For Doctors, they role-block their target.
Naive - For Cops and other investigative roles, they receive all innocent-type results. For Doctors and other non-investigative roles, they do nothing.
Insane - For Cops, they receive results opposite of the truth

(these flavors may be concealed from the player by the mod(s).)
Live Long and Prosper

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7/8/2014 7:31:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
SET-UP

The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:

TOWN

Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Coroner - Can learn the affiliation and role of a dead player.
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Ascetic - Cannot be targeted by non-lethal actions.
Commuter - Cannot be targeted at night.
Sidekick - Redirects non-lethal actions from another player to himself.
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day Phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Cop, Doctor, Vigilante
Pacifist - may not place votes on people at L-1

MAFIA

Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Role Stealer- Can permanently steal and use another player's role.
Ascetic - Same as Town.
Bus Driver - Switches the actions performed on two players.
Jack of All Trades (JOAT) - has 1x: Role Cop, Role Block, Frame
Commuter - Same as Town.
Framer - Can make another player investigate as non-Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Rolestopper - Can make another player immune to non-lethal actions.
Godfather - Investigates as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Janitor - Can choose to hide the role and affiliation of a killed
player.
Lawyer - Can make another player investigate as Town to sane (non-flavored) investigative roles.
Ninja - Does not appear on tracker/watcher reports.
Redirector - Can change another player's intended target.
Roleblocker - Prevents the use of another player's role.

THIRD-PARTY

Serial Killer - Each night may kill another player. Wins when all other players are dead (joint win not possible).
Survivor - Wins by surviving until another faction achieves its win condition (joint win possible).
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7/8/2014 7:33:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

Lannan
Wylted
Debate
YYW
Mikal
XLAV
Endark
Ray
Number
Oro

OTHER

Endark and YYW are replacing Ajab and Chosen, effective immediately.

With 10 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 7:00pm, DDO time, on 7/10/14.


Good luck!
Live Long and Prosper

I'm a Bish.


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7/8/2014 7:53:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 7:39:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
bsh is muh bsh and hes a bsh

How many roles are you this game? I was only assigned one role.
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7/8/2014 7:59:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 7:53:59 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:39:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
bsh is muh bsh and hes a bsh

How many roles are you this game? I was only assigned one role.

I'm a joat with the ability to bomb myself and end the game
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7/8/2014 8:04:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I HOPE WE HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING, I HOPE THAT WE HAVE LEARNED THAT DP1 REVEALS MAKE TOWN LOSE, IT HAPPENED 26 AND 27.1! LETS NOT MASS REVEAL AGAIN K.

nac
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7/8/2014 8:07:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 7:59:28 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:53:59 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:39:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
bsh is muh bsh and hes a bsh

How many roles are you this game? I was only assigned one role.

I'm a joat with the ability to bomb myself and end the game

You're so incredibly stupid if you're serious.

The game only has the roles as listed above. You can't possibly have that ability.

Are you making a stupid joke?

If not, why reveal on DP1 and why lie about it?
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7/8/2014 8:09:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Oh good, more of this buddy junk. Very pro town.
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7/8/2014 8:09:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:07:42 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:59:28 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:53:59 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:39:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
bsh is muh bsh and hes a bsh

How many roles are you this game? I was only assigned one role.

I'm a joat with the ability to bomb myself and end the game

You're so incredibly stupid if you're serious.

The game only has the roles as listed above. You can't possibly have that ability.

Are you making a stupid joke?

If not, why reveal on DP1 and why lie about it?

He's joking.
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7/8/2014 8:10:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:07:42 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:59:28 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:53:59 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:39:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
bsh is muh bsh and hes a bsh

How many roles are you this game? I was only assigned one role.

I'm a joat with the ability to bomb myself and end the game

You're so incredibly stupid if you're serious.

The game only has the roles as listed above. You can't possibly have that ability.

Are you making a stupid joke?

If not, why reveal on DP1 and why lie about it?

Im obv the jester
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7/8/2014 8:10:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:09:16 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Oh good, more of this buddy junk. Very pro town.

*prepare rope for policy lynch*
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7/8/2014 8:10:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:07:42 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:59:28 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:53:59 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:39:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
bsh is muh bsh and hes a bsh

How many roles are you this game? I was only assigned one role.

I'm a joat with the ability to bomb myself and end the game

You're so incredibly stupid if you're serious.

The game only has the roles as listed above. You can't possibly have that ability.

Are you making a stupid joke?

If not, why reveal on DP1 and why lie about it?

He's obviously joking.
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7/8/2014 8:11:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:10:22 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:09:16 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Oh good, more of this buddy junk. Very pro town.

*prepare rope for policy lynch*

I was going to suggest it, but I'm glad you did. I'm willing to policy lynch.
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7/8/2014 8:12:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:11:37 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:10:22 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:09:16 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Oh good, more of this buddy junk. Very pro town.

*prepare rope for policy lynch*

I was going to suggest it, but I'm glad you did. I'm willing to policy lynch.

Excellent. So am I, because this behaviour sucks the fun out of games.
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7/8/2014 8:12:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:10:47 PM, Raymond_Reddington wrote:

Hardtoknowontheinternet/10, especially after the day vig claim in the last game.
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7/8/2014 8:13:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:12:21 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:11:37 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:10:22 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:09:16 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Oh good, more of this buddy junk. Very pro town.

*prepare rope for policy lynch*

I was going to suggest it, but I'm glad you did. I'm willing to policy lynch.

Excellent. So am I, because this behaviour sucks the fun out of games.

I say we start with xlav, since wylted is (in my opinion) a better play when he isn't buddying.

VTL xlav
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7/8/2014 8:13:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Thank you for the incredible insight of being null while everyone else has yet to post, minus Mikal's fluff.

Who's the newest player here? Debate?
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7/8/2014 8:14:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:04:41 PM, numberwang wrote:
I HOPE WE HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING, I HOPE THAT WE HAVE LEARNED THAT DP1 REVEALS MAKE TOWN LOSE, IT HAPPENED 26 AND 27.1! LETS NOT MASS REVEAL AGAIN K.

nac

We've learned that mass full claims are bad. A couple soft claims are definitely necessary for scumhunting.
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7/8/2014 8:15:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:13:37 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:12:21 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:11:37 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:10:22 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:09:16 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 7:56:17 PM, Wylted wrote:
So far I town read XLAV. I'm null on everyone else.

Oh good, more of this buddy junk. Very pro town.

*prepare rope for policy lynch*

I was going to suggest it, but I'm glad you did. I'm willing to policy lynch.

Excellent. So am I, because this behaviour sucks the fun out of games.


I say we start with xlav, since wylted is (in my opinion) a better play when he isn't buddying.

VTL xlav

Oh, there will be time for that.

RVS: (random voting and pressuring newer players) VTL Debate for soft claim.
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7/8/2014 8:18:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:16:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
If we lynch xlav in the next 10 mins. I will do a strip dance on camera

VTL Xlav

Patience. I'm all for policy lynching him, but let's get the ball rolling first.
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7/8/2014 8:19:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:18:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:16:30 PM, Mikal wrote:
If we lynch xlav in the next 10 mins. I will do a strip dance on camera

VTL Xlav

Patience. I'm all for policy lynching him, but let's get the ball rolling first.

eff that. Save the game from rambling.

lynch him and I dance for you
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7/8/2014 8:19:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:15:50 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:

Oh, there will be time for that.

RVS: (random voting and pressuring newer players) VTL Debate for soft claim.

We're going to get hard claims from the noobs who dont understand soft claims, and claims on Dp1 are why town keeps losing these games.
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7/8/2014 8:21:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:19:48 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:15:50 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:

Oh, there will be time for that.

RVS: (random voting and pressuring newer players) VTL Debate for soft claim.

We're going to get hard claims from the noobs who dont understand soft claims, and claims on Dp1 are why town keeps losing these games.

Too many claims are why town keeps losing these games DP1. It's a matter of balance. We get two, maybe three, and then decide whether or not to lynch. Right now I want to lynch XLAV.
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7/8/2014 8:21:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:19:48 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:15:50 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:

Oh, there will be time for that.

RVS: (random voting and pressuring newer players) VTL Debate for soft claim.

We're going to get hard claims from the noobs who dont understand soft claims, and claims on Dp1 are why town keeps losing these games.

That's not true. Soft claiming is a pretty simple concept, and if the noobs don't get it they can ask, and it would be incredibly easy for one of us to explain it.
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7/8/2014 8:23:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:21:19 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:19:48 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:15:50 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:

Oh, there will be time for that.

RVS: (random voting and pressuring newer players) VTL Debate for soft claim.

We're going to get hard claims from the noobs who dont understand soft claims, and claims on Dp1 are why town keeps losing these games.

Too many claims are why town keeps losing these games DP1. It's a matter of balance. We get two, maybe three, and then decide whether or not to lynch.
Agreed.
Right now I want to lynch XLAV.
Lynching Xlav would be dumb. His play style is difficult but that doesn't justify a lynch with zero evidence.
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7/8/2014 8:24:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/8/2014 8:21:31 PM, Raymond_Reddington wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:19:48 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/8/2014 8:15:50 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:

Oh, there will be time for that.

RVS: (random voting and pressuring newer players) VTL Debate for soft claim.

We're going to get hard claims from the noobs who dont understand soft claims, and claims on Dp1 are why town keeps losing these games.

That's not true. Soft claiming is a pretty simple concept, and if the noobs don't get it they can ask, and it would be incredibly easy for one of us to explain it.

Reread 26x, it happened more than a few times. And early claiming beat the town 26.1 and 27.1, if you want evidence for why we shouldnt do it.