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Beginners' Mafia 27.3: DP1

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7/16/2014 4:39:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION

The essence of DDO Mafia is the themed game. Almost all games on mafia are themed games. A themed game introduces new elements (and sometimes new mechanics) that add complexity and (hopefully) fun to the game.

In addition to an alignment and a role, players are also given characters that fit in with the theme. The roles almost (but not always or necessarily) fit with the character. This can be expressed in a number of ways. For example, if the theme is a TV show or movie, and your character is a cop, officer, or policeman, he might very will have the Mafia role of "Cop" due to the similarity in profession, if not function. Alternatively, if the character isn't such an occupation, but is otherwise good at discerning between good and evil, they might also be a "Cop" due to the similarity in function, if not profession.

Themes are limited only by the imagination. Most have to do with some form of media, such as TV shows, Literature, and Movies. Others are more abstract, like philosophies or politics. Literally anything can be a theme.

As said, themes add new elements to the game, which are summarized as follows:

1. Partial-claiming
- Role-claiming can be dangerous for Townies to do, as it helps mafia decide who they need to kill. Instead of role-claiming, you can character claim. While your character may hint at your role, it is still safer than full claiming.

2. Fake-claiming - Mafia normally have to fake claim their roles when forced to claim in theme-less games. In themed games they also have to fake claim characters. Arguably this is more difficult. In role-claiming, they simply have to avoid being counter-claimed. In character claiming, they have to claim a character from the theme, is consistent with their role, and is major enough to be expected (though not all characters in the game will be major).

3. Patterns - Usually, there will be some distinguishing factor between the different factions. Normally this is a good vs. evil type discrimination, but not always. Remember, the Mafia start the game knowing 1/3rd of the role PMs, so have a head start in discerning any patterns and obfuscating Town's ability to also learn it.

4. Mod Psychology - Creating a themed game, including writing PMs, requires more input from the mod. Based on analysis of the game's creation, how the role PMs are written, and any patterns discovered, you can try and determine how the game was constructed in an effort to hunt for scum. However, this is more of an art than a science. Mistakes and deliberately traps created by the mod can hinder such an analysis. Trying to predict the mod's psychology is a double edged sword.

In this game, role were assigned randomly, but not randomly generated. In other words, I selected the roles (and tried to balance them) and then randomly assigned each player one of the roles I had pre-selected.

This is the first time I have balanced a game entirely on my own--I hope it works out. This could have TPs, could have flavors, etc. If it was in a prior game, it could be in this one. Also, a complete list of possible roles can be found here: https://docs.google.com...

Let the war of the gods begin!
Live Long and Prosper

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7/16/2014 4:40:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

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Khaos
Oro
Debaye
Mikal
Ray
YYW
Endark
Lannan
Wylted

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 3:00pm, DDO time, on 7/18/14.

Good luck!
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7/16/2014 5:17:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 5:05:19 PM, Wylted wrote:
I'm going to soft claim my character to get the ball rolling. My soft claim is --Zarroette--

Interesting...
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7/16/2014 5:41:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL YYW
For character claim.
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7/16/2014 5:43:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 5:41:54 PM, lannan13 wrote:
VTL YYW
For character claim.

You first then. Something soft at least.
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7/16/2014 5:43:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 5:42:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 5:41:54 PM, lannan13 wrote:
VTL YYW
For character claim.

Shut up lannan...

Neva.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

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7/16/2014 5:47:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 5:43:55 PM, numberwang wrote:
At 7/16/2014 5:41:54 PM, lannan13 wrote:
VTL YYW
For character claim.

You first then. Something soft at least.

The Olympic Torch.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

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7/16/2014 6:23:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm actually going to try this time. I haven't really given a sh!t about Mafia yet, but today's a new day.
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7/16/2014 6:30:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 5:05:19 PM, Wylted wrote:
I'm going to soft claim my character to get the ball rolling. My soft claim is --Zarroette--

That would mean a lot more to me if I knew what you thought of Zarrotte. Because if the theme is greek gods, then I'd be inclined to think you're Atremis or Ares, which would make me think... well, I'm not going to say, but that's a pretty good town read nonetheless.
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7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?
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7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim
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7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
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Mikal
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7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will
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7/16/2014 6:37:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will

Eros
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Mikal
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7/16/2014 6:37:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:37:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will

Eros

HEPHAESTUS
YYW
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7/16/2014 6:38:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:37:44 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will

Eros

HEPHAESTUS

Then bob the builder doesn't make sense at all...
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Mikal
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7/16/2014 6:40:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:38:39 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:44 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will

Eros

HEPHAESTUS

Then bob the builder doesn't make sense at all...

You do know hes a blacksmith right?
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7/16/2014 6:40:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:40:13 PM, YYW wrote:
Bob the builder was a construction dude... you're into metal working.

I build stuff, same thing
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7/16/2014 6:41:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:40:07 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:38:39 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:44 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will

Eros

HEPHAESTUS

Then bob the builder doesn't make sense at all...

You do know hes a blacksmith right?

Um... no he's not.

Bob the Builder is a British children's animated television show created by Keith Chapman. In the original series Bob appears as a building contractor specializing in masonry

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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YYW
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7/16/2014 6:42:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:40:48 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:40:13 PM, YYW wrote:
Bob the builder was a construction dude... you're into metal working.

I build stuff, same thing

Not when there's a greek god of building sh!t and a different one for working with metal and sh!t lol

...but no worries.
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Mikal
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7/16/2014 6:43:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:41:37 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:40:07 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:38:39 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:44 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:37:08 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:37 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:36:13 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:35:15 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:34:45 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/16/2014 6:33:12 PM, Mikal wrote:
going to be busy most of the day, but im basically bob the builder

Demeter?

kills the point of a soft claim if i claim

I'm not asking for your capabilities, just what it's called... I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

you character claim first and then I will

Eros

HEPHAESTUS

Then bob the builder doesn't make sense at all...

You do know hes a blacksmith right?

Um... no he's not.

Bob the Builder is a British children's animated television show created by Keith Chapman. In the original series Bob appears as a building contractor specializing in masonry

http://en.wikipedia.org...

Wiki - As a smithing god, Hephaestus made all the weapons of the gods in Olympus. He served as the blacksmith of the gods, and was worshipped in the manufacturing and industrial centers of Greece, particularly Athens. The cult of Hephaestus was based in Lemnos.[2] Hephaestus' symbols are a smith's hammer, anvil, and a pair of tongs.

Id copy and paste the fact I am a black smith but Id get modkilled

http://en.wikipedia.org...

I build stuff, bob builds stuff. Same concept, granted bob is more repair but "builder" was the word that was the key
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7/16/2014 6:48:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/16/2014 6:47:10 PM, YYW wrote:
By the way... I am the god of sexual desire, and I win with the town.

someone did not randomize rolls