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HvV Mafia: Australiana Edition - DP2

tvellalott
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7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
The Bloody Livin':
XLAV
Smithereens
SolonKP
Wylted
TUF
Danielle
Khaos

The Bloody Deados:
FourTrouble - Monk (Third-party Doctor) - "Russell Crowe" - Killed NP0
ford_prefect - Lawyer (Mafia) - "Tony Abbott" - Lynched DP1
KravMaga - Blacksmith (Gives BP status) - "Drizabone" - Killed NP1
Bullish - Cop (Flavour Revealed At Endgame) - "Father Bob" - Killed NP1

With 7 living players, it takes 4 to lynch.
This phase will last approximately 72 hours.

Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.
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7/26/2014 4:36:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Remember, the most up-to-date list of roles within the game can be found here:
http://www.debate.org...
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7/26/2014 4:40:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.

What does this mean?
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7/26/2014 4:56:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 4:40:07 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.

What does this mean?

Dunno. This mod is fvcking terrible.
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7/26/2014 5:17:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
The Bloody Livin':
XLAV
Smithereens
SolonKP
Wylted
TUF
Danielle
Khaos

The Bloody Deados:
FourTrouble - Monk (Third-party Doctor) - "Russell Crowe" - Killed NP0
ford_prefect - Lawyer (Mafia) - "Tony Abbott" - Lynched DP1
KravMaga - Blacksmith (Gives BP status) - "Drizabone" - Killed NP1
Bullish - Cop (Flavour Revealed At Endgame) - "Father Bob" - Killed NP1

With 7 living players, it takes 4 to lynch.
This phase will last approximately 72 hours.

Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.

Haha those characters are awesome. Especially father bob.
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7/26/2014 5:23:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/23/2014 7:11:18 AM, Danielle wrote:
@ TUF -- You need to stop saying on your info list that Smith can confirm Wylted as town. I asked if that was true and it's not. He just strongly believes that he's town. I don't know Wylted's playing style but my guess is that he is town, too.


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Check out this post. "I've confirmed Wylted is town, no doubt in my mind whatsoever."

That is the post I was basing my info list off of. Besides a small soft claim, I don't know where he would come to such a strong conclusion at only 58 posts in, but I never made the assumption that it was role based. I simply listed it on my list of interesting things to consider for the time being.

It definitely looks good that he was a main pusher on the Ford lynch, though I honestly think smithers is intelligent enough to pull of a bus of that caliber.

At 7/23/2014 7:15:13 AM, Danielle wrote:
For instance I suspect (but have no proof) that TUF might be mafia. That's because TUF is probably the most other experienced player in the game, and since I'm town, I wouldn't be surprised if the mod pitted us against each other. He is the only one whose style I am familiar with. I personally think he seems scummy atm but I have no proof so I digress.

I have been in a lot of games over the past couple of years, yes, but I think you may be over-estimating my ability. I have a few good games, but also quite a few bad ones where I have made really bad and embarrassing mistakes as both town and mafia.
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7/26/2014 5:33:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At this point in time, I think my two town reads would have to be placed on Danielle and smithers.

I am, like Danielle, weary of their skill to manipulate.

I am still skeptical of Khaos, but now that we have a little bit more time in the DP, I would like to re-read some of the posts in DP1 and re-evaluate some reads.

I don't feel like XLAV has given me much of anything to have me consider him being town at this point, so I think he is a good place to start the DP with.

VTL XLAV.
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7/26/2014 5:34:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 5:30:15 AM, Smithereens wrote:
'Evening all.

VTL KHAOS for some fireworks.

'ello smithers. Guess you were right about Ford, and I feel slightly foolish for being so stuck on Khaos last DP.
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7/26/2014 5:36:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 5:23:02 AM, TUF wrote:
At 7/23/2014 7:11:18 AM, Danielle wrote:
@ TUF -- You need to stop saying on your info list that Smith can confirm Wylted as town. I asked if that was true and it's not. He just strongly believes that he's town. I don't know Wylted's playing style but my guess is that he is town, too.


http://www.debate.org...

Check out this post. "I've confirmed Wylted is town, no doubt in my mind whatsoever."

That is the post I was basing my info list off of. Besides a small soft claim, I don't know where he would come to such a strong conclusion at only 58 posts in, but I never made the assumption that it was role based. I simply listed it on my list of interesting things to consider for the time being.
Wylted is literally the only person on DDO other than XLAV back when XLAV was completely new who couldn't hide his mafia game to save his life. As soon as Wylted started speaking, it was obvious he was town. I believe you are in the HP game too. Wylted's play is identical in both games. In that game he flipped town, which was a nail in the coffin. I would be utterly embarrassed if he turned out to be scum, but that's probably not going to happen, therefore Wylted should remain alive.

It definitely looks good that he was a main pusher on the Ford lynch, though I honestly think smithers is intelligent enough to pull of a bus of that caliber.
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7/26/2014 5:37:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
So Bullish was the cop. He said his role pm indicated he was naive. However there is also a lawyer. If the cop is flavored naive, then the lawyers role is utterly useless. Keeping in mind it is not unheard of for mods to pull stuff like this, I have doubts that it would happen given that drafter is a mod. He tends to be opposed to "fvcking" with people, as he has made rants about that type of thing in the past. But this is overall TV's game, and I don't know how much involvement he had in the making of it.
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7/26/2014 5:42:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 4:40:07 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.

What does this mean?

I'll ask the mod if I can tell you about it.
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7/26/2014 6:45:25 AM
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At 7/26/2014 5:42:39 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 7/26/2014 4:40:07 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.

What does this mean?

I'll ask the mod if I can tell you about it.
Why do you have it?
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7/26/2014 6:51:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 6:45:25 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 7/26/2014 5:42:39 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 7/26/2014 4:40:07 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 7/26/2014 4:36:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
Additionally, Smithereens is wearing a dunce hat this day phase.

What does this mean?

I'll ask the mod if I can tell you about it.
Why do you have it?

I asked about Ford's guilt, from the previous DP. Drafter made it seem like we were awaiting something, but apparently we weren't. I dropped a joke about mod consistency, and TV thought it was so funny he would award me my very own, humiliating dunce hat...

The hat does nothing btw. It's just there because TV wants to poke fun.
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7/26/2014 6:54:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
XLAV, what do you think of Khaos? More specifically, the fact that he has claimed a protective role which so happens to have appeared in the grave-yard.
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7/26/2014 6:55:19 AM
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To clarify my previous post, Khaos claimed a protective role. We have a protective role dead in the graveyard. What is the general view?
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7/26/2014 6:55:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure the last two mafia are Khaos and TUF. If there's another third party (SK) then I have no leads on who that might be for now, and don't see how we would decipher that from the day phase since they would just play like a townie.

Smith you should vote for Khaos over XLAV. Weren't you pushing for his guilt last day phase? In addition to some questionable behavior, XLAV is likely not mafia. He posted in the Mod PM asking if FourTrouble was night killed. If he were mafia he wouldn't have had to ask. Maybe he's TP (or maybe we have a vig) but there are probs 2 mafia left. We should go after them. Khaos for aforementioned reasons, and TUF just based on my read. I've noticed some patterns like fluffy posts and subtle buddying.

VTL Khaos for role and explanation of last night's actions.
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7/26/2014 6:56:02 AM
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I'm the paranoid/insane cop.
I was hoping I was legit, but it turns out I'm not after I investigated myself in NP2.

NP1 I investigated Khaos and I got guilthy which is why I wanted to lynch him. But after I saws Bullish's flavored cop claim, I wondered if I was flavored too.

I didn't CC Bullish because I knew he was town when he mentioned about the modifier. I also asked TV if its possible to have multiple players with the same role in the game and he said it was possible.
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7/26/2014 6:57:20 AM
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At 7/26/2014 5:37:56 AM, TUF wrote:
So Bullish was the cop. He said his role pm indicated he was naive. However there is also a lawyer. If the cop is flavored naive, then the lawyers role is utterly useless.

What do you think of the possibility that there may be two roles which are very similar?
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7/26/2014 6:58:48 AM
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At 7/26/2014 6:57:20 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 7/26/2014 5:37:56 AM, TUF wrote:
So Bullish was the cop. He said his role pm indicated he was naive. However there is also a lawyer. If the cop is flavored naive, then the lawyers role is utterly useless.

What do you think of the possibility that there may be two roles which are very similar?

Oh thats me, I'm the second cop.
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7/26/2014 7:01:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/26/2014 6:55:36 AM, Danielle wrote:
Smith you should vote for Khaos over XLAV.
But we have ages. We also need to out any information that would clear khaos, so that we can be sure of his guilt before lynching.

I have this wonderful feeling that we are most likely going to win this game.
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7/26/2014 7:03:24 AM
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My role pretty much confirms that there are flavored roles. I believe XLAV.

The lawyer could throw off one of the cop's results which would be amusing from a mod perspective (confusing to players). I'm not sure if the lawyer is relevant regarding a detective role.

TUF's commentary is pretty much a scum read in my mind. That plus his vote for XLAV and aforementioned reasons make him a good candidate for night killing.

Lynch Khaos I guess
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7/26/2014 7:05:19 AM
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hmm. that is interesting.

@TUF, have you claimed a character as yet? Also, what was your reasoning behind your scum read of Khaos last DP?

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7/26/2014 7:07:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I guess we don't know much from Solon, that's fair. Town read on Wylted and Smith but I've never played with them before so who knows. I would like Khaos to claim but we should indeed get more info regarding night actions if anyone has anything relevant. I'm headed to a bridal shower in a few hours so I will just keep my vote for now. If by chance Khaos seems innocent then I guess Solon should be our next pressure.
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