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7/27/2014 1:47:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Introduction to Mafia

Mafia is a game of strategy and behavioral analysis that pits an uninformed majority (The Town) against an informed minority (The Mafia). All members of the Mafia know who they are and - by process of elimination - know who the members of the Town are. The mafia have their own shared PM where they can coordinate and discuss strategies. No member of the Town is given information about any other player; they must figure that out through the course of the game.

The game is divided into Day Phases (DP) and Night Phases (NP). Each DP will be conducted in a public thread created by me (such as this one). I will start each DP with a summary of actions performed the previous NP, a list of living and dead players, and other rules and notes. The DP is used by all players for open deliberation and is the only normal mechanism by which members of the Town can communicate with each other. It is the primary vehicle by which the members of the Town can eliminate their opposition: The Mafia. However, the Mafia are covertly part of this deliberation, and will try to disrupt or derail the plans of the Town, though in a way as not to reveal their affiliation.

During the DP, each player may cast a vote to lynch another player. The format is VTL Player Name. Unbolded votes do not count. To remove your vote from a player, simply Unvote. Alternatively, you may vote that no player be lynched that day with a vote to no-lynch, or VTNL. If a majority of the living players vote to have another player lynched, or vote that no one should be lynched, the DP will end with the death of that player (if applicable) and the NP will begin.

The NP is where players can utilize the abilities of any role they have been given. These will be detailed in PMs I create for each player. In addition, the members of the Mafia can elect to kill another player during the Night. The NP ends when all players have submitted their actions.

The object of the game for each faction (Town, Mafia) is to eliminate the other faction. As a short-cut, when the Mafia make up 50% or more of the living players, the game will end automatically, since they will be able to control the vote during the DP and can no longer be eliminated (under most circumstances). However, there is no such short-cut for the Town, and they must eliminate each member of the Mafia.

Terms, acronyms, and abbreviations:

Alignment - your status as Town, Mafia, or 3rd Party (anything not Town or Mafia).
Bandwagon - A "wagon" consists of the individuals voting for a person. Bandwagoning usually refers to hopping on such a wagon blindly or without clearly articulating your reasons.
BP - Bulletproof, a person immune to night kills.
Buddying - A tactic by mafia where they agree with or support towns people in an attempt to look innocent in return.
Bussing - When the mafia allow, or help, get one of their own members lynched, in order to look innocent in return, or to avoid suspicion.
Claim - Either Character Claim or Role Claim. This is a request to reveal this part of your Role.
Counter Claim - In most cases, roles are unique per game. A counter-claim is when one person challenges another person's role-claim by claiming the same role.
Fake Claim - Since your character or role can be indicative of your alignment, mafioso's usually invent fake claims to avoid suspicion. Can also be done by Towns-persons trying to perform some sort of gambit.
FOS - Finger of suspicion. Indicates that you suspect someone of being mafia, but usually not enough to place a vote on them.
Hammer - Placing the last vote on someone to get them lynched.
JK - Jailkeeper, a combination of doctor and roleblocker.
LYLO - Lynch or Lose, a situation where the towns-people only outnumber the mafia by 1. Since the mafia gets a kill at night and this would tie them with the town and earn them a win, it is necessary for the town to lynch a mafia in this situation or they lose.
Mod-kill - You break my rules - I kill you. I will also retroactively convert you into a survivor such that you can't even claim a win with your original faction.
MYLO - Mislynch and Lose, a situation where the towns-people outnumber the mafia by 2. A mislynch gives the mafia a free kill which, when combined with the mafia night kill, allows the mafia to win. Barring irrefutable results, MYLO generally results in no lynch, which merely leads to LYLO.
NK - night kill, any kill performed at night, though usually refers to the mafia night kill.
PM - Private message. Players are only permitted to create or talk in Private Messages set up by the mod.
PR - Power Role, a role with some ability, either passive or active. Towns people without a power role are referred to as "Vanillas" while mafiosos without a power role are referred to as "Goons"
RVS - Random Voting Stage. When there is no information to go on, but you need to get the game moving, generally you'll pressure someone randomly.
Scum - Anyone that is not aligned with the town.
Scum-tell - some trait, or "tell" that indicates a person may be scum.
Soft-claim - dropping hints, but not out-right claiming, to be a specific character or role.
SK - Serial Killer, a third party, night killing role.
WIFOM - Wine In Front Of Me. A subtle and complex type of psychology. You know I want to poison you. I serve us both glasses of wine. You think the poison is in the glass in front of you, but you know I know that's what you'd think, and so you realize the poison is actually in my glass, and I'm just waiting for your to drink from it instead.

Rules:

1. The only PMs you are allowed to use to talk about this game with other players are the PMs that I have specifically created for that purpose. Do not discuss the game in hangouts or other forum thread either.
2. You may not cut-and-paste from any game PM into the DP thread. You must always paraphrase. Simply replacing the occasional word with a synonym is not acceptable.
3. Be active (submit any Night actions in a timely matter and participate in DP discussions). I will replace people at my discretion in response to low or no activity. I will prompt you if your activity is low.
4. Excessive trolling will not be tolerated.
5. Swearing and poor conduct will not be tolerated.
6. Do not post in the group PM; it is just for announcements from me.
7. Excessively long twilight periods (3 hour max limit) will not be tolerated. People posting after that will be warned.
8. DPs will last until a majority vote has been reached or 48 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, there will be no lynch.
9. NPs will last until everyone submits their night action or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, your action is forfeit.
10. Any DP or NP extensions will be announced by me in the DP thread; you may request extensions, but it is at my personal discretion whether to grant such requests.
11. All game related questions should be directed to me, via PM. You don't have to create a new PM, you may use your Role PM or mafia PM. If game related question are posted in the forum thread, please bold them.
12. Enforcement: Violations of rules 1 and 2 will earn someone an automatic mod-kill. Violations of rules of rules 3 through 7 will result in warnings; you will receive 2 warnings and any further infractions thereafter will result in a mod-kill. Rules 8 through 12 are administrative, and are my responsibility as mod.
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7/27/2014 1:48:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Round 1:

This Round will introduce you to the concept and basics of Mafia, including Role Madness!

Set-Up:

The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:

Town Roles

Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Pacifist - Cannot place votes on people at L-1
Aesthetic - Isn't affected by nonlethal actions
Sidekick - Can redirect nonlethal actions from one player to themselves

Mafia Roles

Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Redirector - May redirect actions from one player to another
Role Stealer - May steal another player role. The new role is permanent.

Other


Additionally, there is a maximum of only one of each role. However, if a role shows up in both the town and mafia lists (e.g. mimic) there can be both a town mimic and a mafia mimic in the game, though not 2 town mimics or 2 mafia mimics. Also, no townie can have a mafia role, and vice versa.

Roles have been generated randomly, and have been randomly assigned.
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7/27/2014 1:51:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

Esocial
Oro
Wylted
Thett
Arc
9space
Endark
YYW
Dalt
JMK

With 10 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 11:59, DDO time, on 7/28/14.


And, instead of my customary "Good Luck," I've included some upbeat music :)
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7/27/2014 1:52:19 AM
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ATTENTION

The "Rules" section has been tweaked since last series. Please review it; do not be caught unawares. Thank you!
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7/27/2014 7:32:30 AM
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@Bsh, I never heard that song.

@Everyone, I'm sure [for reasons we all know about-cough-no jif- cough] that we're going to have a fun and epic game! I usually post more frequently in the afternoon, night or at dawn. I have to leave now but I'll check in later.

Please note:
Keep an eye on the time. We don't want to rush into a lynch and mislynch [lynch a townie.] Also, some inactive players might not post when we do because of the time difference. [I'm EST. Idk about you guys.]

Now, let's take down mafia! :D
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which is what everyone else should also care about.

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In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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7/27/2014 8:53:40 AM
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Let's get the party started!

This is the stage where we start getting soft claims from people. Soft claims are hints that don't specify exactly what your role is but only give a hint concerning it.

So, randomly, VTL JMK for soft claim.
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7/27/2014 9:48:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 8:53:40 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Let's get the party started!

This is the stage where we start getting soft claims from people. Soft claims are hints that don't specify exactly what your role is but only give a hint concerning it.

So, randomly, VTL JMK for soft claim.

okey dokey. I suppose we could pressure inactive people. But first, how about active people? What's your soft-claim, ER?
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7/27/2014 10:45:23 AM
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I'll soft claim that my role is not a job/role that people have in modern society or real life towns.
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7/27/2014 11:02:57 AM
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At 7/27/2014 9:48:11 AM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 7/27/2014 8:53:40 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Let's get the party started!

This is the stage where we start getting soft claims from people. Soft claims are hints that don't specify exactly what your role is but only give a hint concerning it.

So, randomly, VTL JMK for soft claim.

okey dokey. I suppose we could pressure inactive people. But first, how about active people? What's your soft-claim, ER?

Would you have knocked over the vase, if I never said anything at all?

That's really going to bake your noodle, thinking about that.
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7/27/2014 11:08:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 8:53:40 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Let's get the party started!

This is the stage where we start getting soft claims from people. Soft claims are hints that don't specify exactly what your role is but only give a hint concerning it.

So, randomly, VTL JMK for soft claim.

That's not fun, Endark =(.

I'll actually full claim because my role is a bit scummy. I'm the town roleblocker. I received clarification that my night action is optional, so I'm inclined to waive it in the absence of a genuine scum read.
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7/27/2014 11:45:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 7:32:30 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
@Bsh, I never heard that song.

@Everyone, I'm sure [for reasons we all know about-cough-no jif- cough] that we're going to have a fun and epic game! I usually post more frequently in the afternoon, night or at dawn. I have to leave now but I'll check in later.

Please note:
Keep an eye on the time. We don't want to rush into a lynch and mislynch [lynch a townie.] Also, some inactive players might not post when we do because of the time difference. [I'm EST. Idk about you guys.]

Now, let's take down mafia! :D

Wouldn't taking down mafia lose you the game?
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7/27/2014 11:46:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 9:48:11 AM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 7/27/2014 8:53:40 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Let's get the party started!

This is the stage where we start getting soft claims from people. Soft claims are hints that don't specify exactly what your role is but only give a hint concerning it.

So, randomly, VTL JMK for soft claim.

okey dokey. I suppose we could pressure inactive people. But first, how about active people? What's your soft-claim, ER?

I don't think the level of physical activity somebody partake a in should control our strategy. What's your soft claim?
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7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P
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7/27/2014 12:57:30 PM
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At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Nah.
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7/27/2014 12:59:49 PM
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At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Just start calling him dark rat. At some point he'll blow up and then in the midst of the anger, he may out his role.
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7/27/2014 1:04:11 PM
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At 7/27/2014 12:59:49 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Just start calling him dark rat. At some point he'll blow up and then in the midst of the anger, he may out his role.

Seems unlikely.
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7/27/2014 1:44:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 12:57:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Nah.

By refusing to claim, you're effectively soft-claiming a power role, presuming you aren't scum. Usually I ask that the person asking for claims claim first themselves.

Can you give us any hint as to your role?
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7/27/2014 1:51:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 11:02:57 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 9:48:11 AM, 9spaceking wrote:
At 7/27/2014 8:53:40 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Let's get the party started!

This is the stage where we start getting soft claims from people. Soft claims are hints that don't specify exactly what your role is but only give a hint concerning it.

So, randomly, VTL JMK for soft claim.

okey dokey. I suppose we could pressure inactive people. But first, how about active people? What's your soft-claim, ER?

Would you have knocked over the vase, if I never said anything at all?

That's really going to bake your noodle, thinking about that.
Huh?
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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7/27/2014 1:51:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 11:45:25 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 7:32:30 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
@Bsh, I never heard that song.

@Everyone, I'm sure [for reasons we all know about-cough-no jif- cough] that we're going to have a fun and epic game! I usually post more frequently in the afternoon, night or at dawn. I have to leave now but I'll check in later.

Please note:
Keep an eye on the time. We don't want to rush into a lynch and mislynch [lynch a townie.] Also, some inactive players might not post when we do because of the time difference. [I'm EST. Idk about you guys.]

Now, let's take down mafia! :D

Wouldn't taking down mafia lose you the game?
-_- Nope.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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7/27/2014 1:52:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 1:51:04 PM, YYW wrote:
Yup. Let's VTL JMK for a soft claim.

He already hardclaimed
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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7/27/2014 1:53:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 12:59:49 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Just start calling him dark rat. At some point he'll blow up and then in the midst of the anger, he may out his role.

0.0 That's mean. But I'll keep that in mind for future... umm... games... ;D
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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7/27/2014 1:56:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 1:51:04 PM, YYW wrote:
Yup. Let's VTL JMK for a soft claim.

His hard claim wasn't good enough, now you want a soft one?
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7/27/2014 1:57:46 PM
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At 7/27/2014 1:44:17 PM, JohnMaynardKeynes wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:57:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Nah.

By refusing to claim, you're effectively soft-claiming a power role, presuming you aren't scum. Usually I ask that the person asking for claims claim first themselves.

Can you give us any hint as to your role?

If I were you. I'd roleblock him until he cooperates.
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7/27/2014 1:58:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 1:57:46 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 1:44:17 PM, JohnMaynardKeynes wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:57:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:26:37 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 7/27/2014 12:07:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Alright. Unvote.

I see two soft claims and a hard claim. That's not bad for DP1. Perhaps one more. We're not mass claiming here.

One more.. from you? :P

Nah.

By refusing to claim, you're effectively soft-claiming a power role, presuming you aren't scum. Usually I ask that the person asking for claims claim first themselves.

Can you give us any hint as to your role?

If I were you. I'd roleblock him until he cooperates.

I'm not a big fan of doing that, nor do I want him to out if he has a pr. I'm just suspicious of people who randomly ask people to claim. For all he knew at the time, I could've been the cop.
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"The sight of my succulent backside acts as a sedative for the beholder. It soothes the pain of life and makes all which hurts seem like bliss. I urge all those stressed by ridiculous drama on DDO which will never affect your real life to gaze upon my cheeks for they will make you have an excitement and joy you've never felt before." -- Dr. Dennybug

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7/27/2014 2:00:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 1:56:54 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 1:51:04 PM, YYW wrote:
Yup. Let's VTL JMK for a soft claim.

His hard claim wasn't good enough, now you want a soft one?

I was being sarcastic... though perhaps that didn't come through. I just thought it was interesting that Endarkened went after quite possibly the weakest member here for a soft claim, first.

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7/27/2014 2:01:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 2:00:57 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/27/2014 1:56:54 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 1:51:04 PM, YYW wrote:
Yup. Let's VTL JMK for a soft claim.

His hard claim wasn't good enough, now you want a soft one?

I was being sarcastic... though perhaps that didn't come through. I just thought it was interesting that Endarkened went after quite possibly the weakest member here for a soft claim, first.

UNVOTE

Weakest member? =(

Well, I'm still in the YYW-bsh fan club, but darn man, that hurts!
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7/27/2014 2:14:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/27/2014 2:01:37 PM, JohnMaynardKeynes wrote:
At 7/27/2014 2:00:57 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/27/2014 1:56:54 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/27/2014 1:51:04 PM, YYW wrote:
Yup. Let's VTL JMK for a soft claim.

His hard claim wasn't good enough, now you want a soft one?

I was being sarcastic... though perhaps that didn't come through. I just thought it was interesting that Endarkened went after quite possibly the weakest member here for a soft claim, first.

UNVOTE

Weakest member? =(

Well, I'm still in the YYW-bsh fan club, but darn man, that hurts!

We're still happy to have you. It just sticks out to me that you're the first one Endarkened pressures for a soft claim.
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