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8/20/2014 8:54:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Introduction to Mafia:

Mafia is a game of strategy and behavioral analysis that pits an uninformed majority (The Town) against an informed minority (The Mafia). All members of the Mafia know who they are and - by process of elimination - know who the members of the Town are. The mafia have their own shared PM where they can coordinate and discuss strategies. No member of the Town is given information about any other player; they must figure that out through the course of the game.

The game is divided into Day Phases (DP) and Night Phases (NP). Each DP will be conducted in a public thread created by me (such as this one). I will start each DP with a summary of actions performed the previous NP, a list of living and dead players, and other rules and notes. The DP is used by all players for open deliberation and is the only normal mechanism by which members of the Town can communicate with each other. It is the primary vehicle by which the members of the Town can eliminate their opposition: The Mafia. However, the Mafia are covertly part of this deliberation, and will try to disrupt or derail the plans of the Town, though in a way as not to reveal their affiliation.

During the DP, each player may cast a vote to lynch another player. The format is VTL Player Name. Unbolded votes do not count. To remove your vote from a player, simply Unvote. Alternatively, you may vote that no player be lynched that day with a vote to no-lynch, or VTNL. If a majority of the living players vote to have another player lynched, or vote that no one should be lynched, the DP will end with the death of that player (if applicable) and the NP will begin.

The NP is where players can utilize the abilities of any role they have been given. These will be detailed in PMs I create for each player. In addition, the members of the Mafia can elect to kill another player during the Night. The NP ends when all players have submitted their actions.

The object of the game for each faction (Town, Mafia) is to eliminate the other faction. As a short-cut, when the Mafia make up 50% or more of the living players, the game will end automatically, since they will be able to control the vote during the DP and can no longer be eliminated (under most circumstances). However, there is no such short-cut for the Town, and they must eliminate each member of the Mafia.

Terms, acronyms, and abbreviations:

Alignment - your status as Town, Mafia, or 3rd Party (anything not Town or Mafia).
Bandwagon - A "wagon" consists of the individuals voting for a person. Bandwagoning usually refers to hopping on such a wagon blindly or without clearly articulating your reasons.
BP - Bulletproof, a person immune to night kills.
Buddying - A tactic by mafia where they agree with or support towns people in an attempt to look innocent in return.
Bussing - When the mafia allow, or help, get one of their own members lynched, in order to look innocent in return, or to avoid suspicion.
Claim - Either Character Claim or Role Claim. This is a request to reveal this part of your Role.
Counter Claim - In most cases, roles are unique per game. A counter-claim is when one person challenges another person's role-claim by claiming the same role.
Fake Claim - Since your character or role can be indicative of your alignment, mafioso's usually invent fake claims to avoid suspicion. Can also be done by Towns-persons trying to perform some sort of gambit.
FOS - Finger of suspicion. Indicates that you suspect someone of being mafia, but usually not enough to place a vote on them.
Hammer - Placing the last vote on someone to get them lynched.
JK - Jailkeeper, a combination of doctor and roleblocker.
LYLO - Lynch or Lose, a situation where the towns-people only outnumber the mafia by 1. Since the mafia gets a kill at night and this would tie them with the town and earn them a win, it is necessary for the town to lynch a mafia in this situation or they lose.
Mod-kill - You break my rules - I kill you. I will also retroactively convert you into a survivor such that you can't even claim a win with your original faction.
MYLO - Mislynch and Lose, a situation where the towns-people outnumber the mafia by 2. A mislynch gives the mafia a free kill which, when combined with the mafia night kill, allows the mafia to win. Barring irrefutable results, MYLO generally results in no lynch, which merely leads to LYLO.
NK - night kill, any kill performed at night, though usually refers to the mafia night kill.
PM - Private message. Players are only permitted to create or talk in Private Messages set up by the mod.
PR - Power Role, a role with some ability, either passive or active. Towns people without a power role are referred to as "Vanillas" while mafiosos without a power role are referred to as "Goons"
RVS - Random Voting Stage. When there is no information to go on, but you need to get the game moving, generally you'll pressure someone randomly.
Scum - Anyone that is not aligned with the town.
Scum-tell - some trait, or "tell" that indicates a person may be scum.
Soft-claim - dropping hints, but not out-right claiming, to be a specific character or role.
SK - Serial Killer, a third party, night killing role.
WIFOM - Wine In Front Of Me. A subtle and complex type of psychology. You know I want to poison you. I serve us both glasses of wine. You think the poison is in the glass in front of you, but you know I know that's what you'd think, and so you realize the poison is actually in my glass, and I'm just waiting for your to drink from it instead.

Rules:

1. The only PMs you are allowed to use to talk about this game with other players are the PMs that I have specifically created for that purpose. Do not discuss the game in hangouts or other forum threads either.
2. You may not cut-and-paste from any game PM into the DP thread. You must always paraphrase. Simply replacing the occasional word with a synonym is not acceptable.
3. Do not use PM content or structure to confirm affiliation.
4. Be active (submit any Night actions in a timely matter and participate in DP discussions). I will replace people at my discretion in response to low or no activity. I will prompt you if your activity is low.
5. Excessive trolling will not be tolerated.
6. Excessive swearing and poor conduct will not be tolerated.
7. Do not post in the group PM; it is just for announcements from me.
8. Excessively long twilight periods (3 hour max limit) will not be tolerated. People posting after that will be warned.
9. Do not throw the game for an opposing faction or actively try to inhibit your own team from winning.
10. DPs will last until a majority vote has been reached or 48 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, there will be no lynch.
11. NPs will last until everyone submits their night action or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, your action is forfeit.
12. Any DP or NP extensions will be announced by me in the DP thread; you may request extensions, but it is at my personal discretion whether to grant such requests.
13. All game related questions should be directed to me, via PM. You don't have to create a new PM, you may use your Role PM or mafia PM. If game related question are posted in the forum thread, please bold them.
14. Enforcement: Violations of rules 1, 2, and 3 will earn someone an automatic mod-kill. Violations of rules of rules 4 through 9 will result in warnings; you will receive 2 warnings and any further infractions thereafter will result in a mod-kill. Rules 8 through 12 are administrative, and are my responsibility as mod.
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8/20/2014 8:55:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Round 1:

This Round will introduce you to the concept and basics of Mafia, including Role Madness!

Set-Up:


The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:

Town Roles


Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Pacifist - Cannot place votes on people at L-1
Aesthetic - Isn't affected by nonlethal actions
Sidekick - Can redirect nonlethal actions from one player to themselves

Mafia Roles

Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Redirector - May redirect actions from one player to another
Role Stealer - May steal another player role. The new role is permanent.

Other


Additionally, there is a maximum of only one of each role. However, if a role shows up in both the town and mafia lists (e.g. mimic) there can be both a town mimic and a mafia mimic in the game, though not 2 town mimics or 2 mafia mimics. Also, no townie can have a mafia role, and vice versa.

Roles have been generated randomly, and have been randomly assigned.
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8/20/2014 9:00:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

Krieg
Adam
GCL
Dalt
Denny
9space
Subtuai
Daisy
Budda
Khaos

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 8:00pm, DDO time, 8/22/14.


Good luck + a song to kick off the series!
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8/20/2014 9:02:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Alright....so, to get things started:

VTL Dalton

I figure we get claims from a few non-noobs, then end the DP with a no lynch.
Or, maybe Budda.

I am town, so I think he would be, but bsh1 said the roles are random, so who knows.
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8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM
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Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.
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8/20/2014 9:05:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

You're here Lucky!!! OMG!!!

The potato something is lurking btw. :}
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8/20/2014 9:05:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:02:16 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Alright....so, to get things started:

VTL Dalton

I figure we get claims from a few non-noobs, then end the DP with a no lynch.
Or, maybe Budda.

I am town, so I think he would be, but bsh1 said the roles are random, so who knows.
Soft or full?

As a preemptive answer to this question, I'll soft claim that my role is between "cop" and "doctor" on the town roles list provided by bsh1.
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8/20/2014 9:06:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

Like a town advisor?
Also, did he say that or are you just assuming?
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8/20/2014 9:07:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:05:27 PM, Daltonian wrote:

As a preemptive answer to this question, I'll soft claim that my role is between "cop" and "doctor" on the town roles list provided by bsh1.

Good enough, I suppose.

What do you make of Lucky's comment?
Should we lynch Budda and/or me DP1?
My work here is, finally, done.
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8/20/2014 9:08:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:06:09 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

Like a town advisor?
Also, did he say that or are you just assuming?

You know very well that Lucky's trolling, lol...
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8/20/2014 9:09:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:08:34 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:06:09 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

Like a town advisor?
Also, did he say that or are you just assuming?

You know very well that Lucky's trolling, lol...

LOL, actually, I believed he was town advisor, but not about the ringers.
My work here is, finally, done.
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8/20/2014 9:13:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:09:44 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:08:34 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:06:09 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

Like a town advisor?
Also, did he say that or are you just assuming?

You know very well that Lucky's trolling, lol...

LOL, actually, I believed he was town advisor, but not about the ringers.

Lol...
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8/20/2014 9:13:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:07:45 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Good enough, I suppose.

What do you make of Lucky's comment?
Should we lynch Budda and/or me DP1?
I don't necessarily see why he would lie.
The DP doesn't need to end quickly.

I think a possible course of action would to make both of you out your roles first (before anyone else). Do you agree with this?

Bsh, I assume you did grant Lucky permission to say what he just said?
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8/20/2014 9:14:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:13:11 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:09:44 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:08:34 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:06:09 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

Like a town advisor?
Also, did he say that or are you just assuming?

You know very well that Lucky's trolling, lol...

LOL, actually, I believed he was town advisor, but not about the ringers.

Lol...
I am gullible.
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8/20/2014 9:14:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Dalt (1/6) - Khaos
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8/20/2014 9:15:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I KNEWWW that bsh would never let him do that.

Ok, so VTL Khaos as a gift in return anyway
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8/20/2014 9:15:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:14:13 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:13:11 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:09:44 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:08:34 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:06:09 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:03:42 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Btw bsh1 asked me to help him balance this game. I'm just going to say that 1 ringer is town and 1 ringer is mafia. That is all. Good bye.

Like a town advisor?
Also, did he say that or are you just assuming?

You know very well that Lucky's trolling, lol...

LOL, actually, I believed he was town advisor, but not about the ringers.

Lol...
I am gullible.

It's okay...we all have our gullible moments...
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8/20/2014 9:16:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:15:22 PM, Daltonian wrote:
I KNEWWW that bsh would never let him do that.

Ok, so VTL Khaos as a gift in return anyway

*cough* OMGUS *cough*
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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8/20/2014 9:17:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:16:41 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:15:22 PM, Daltonian wrote:
I KNEWWW that bsh would never let him do that.

Ok, so VTL Khaos as a gift in return anyway

*cough* OMGUS *cough*
xD I want me and him to be the ones to claim today.
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8/20/2014 9:17:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Dalt (1/6) - Khaos
Khaos (1/6) - Dalt
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8/20/2014 9:18:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
To clarify: if Khaos soft claims, I will remove my vote

If Khaos outs his role, I will out mine.
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8/20/2014 9:22:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:13:25 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:07:45 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:

Good enough, I suppose.

What do you make of Lucky's comment?
Should we lynch Budda and/or me DP1?
I don't necessarily see why he would lie.
The DP doesn't need to end quickly.
I didn't mean to do it NOW.

I think a possible course of action would to make both of you out your roles first (before anyone else). Do you agree with this?
It's risky. We could both be town and have good roles.
I'll say this, my role is activated upon death, but I won't say what type of death (lynch or NK) or the utility of the role.

Bsh, I assume you did grant Lucky permission to say what he just said?
He already said he was trolling.

When Drafter ran these, he had the first game with no roles, and he usually split up the ringers for the first round. Bsh1 has larger games, and most of the players, usually, have some experience, though I am not sure about this crowd.
You, me, Budda, and GCL. 9space....sort of. Not sure about the rest.

As such, I am opposed to lynching or pressuring any of the noobs until next DP, or unless something crazy happens.
My work here is, finally, done.
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8/20/2014 9:24:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LOL
A lot happened while I was posting that.

Unvote (forgot to)
I think Budda and GCL should both narrow their claims down as well.

We'll move forward from there.
I'd also like to hear imput from all noobs.
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8/20/2014 9:25:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:22:11 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I am satisfied with your soft claim.
Unvote

BTW: do you generally support VTNL's on DP1 or always lynching someone? You make it seem like you want to VTNL today.
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8/20/2014 9:27:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 9:25:00 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 8/20/2014 9:22:11 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
I am satisfied with your soft claim.
Unvote

BTW: do you generally support VTNL's on DP1 or always lynching someone? You make it seem like you want to VTNL today.

Keep in mind I take my role of ringer very seriously.
For maximum exposure to the game, I'd like the noobs to play. No lynching today (barring extra NK's) gives town an extra DP.
bsh1 seems to always have three scum in 10 player set-ups.

Chances are, one of the non-noobs is going to die tonight.
Since my role activates upon death, I need no protection.
My work here is, finally, done.
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8/20/2014 10:25:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The lurking potato laughs, har de har har
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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8/20/2014 10:27:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 10:25:34 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
The lurking potato laughs, har de har har

You're a potato? What?
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8/20/2014 10:28:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
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Dalt (1/6) - Denny
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8/20/2014 10:39:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/20/2014 10:27:45 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 8/20/2014 10:25:34 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
The lurking potato laughs, har de har har

You're a potato? What?

bed potato yes lol
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I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

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In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.