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trekie
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8/29/2014 10:07:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Graveyard:

Player: bsh1/YYW
Character: Prowl
Role: Vote Thief - Each night you may target another player. During the next Day Phase you will have superior control over their vote. You can change their vote any time and as many times as you want by posting [Player#1] votes [Player#2] or [Player#1] unvotes in your role PM. However, they may retain control of their vote during any period you don't have their vote explicitly placed on another player.
"I don't want to lead. I don't need public approval. My goal is to put all my resources into winning this war. That's the way it should be for a number cruncher like me. But with Kup, everyone wants to hear what he has to say. So now, when he speaks... you won't even see my lips move." - IDW Comics
Affiliation/Win Condition: You win with the Town. The Town wins when it eliminates all opposing factions.

Player: Maikuru
Character: Springer
Role: Mason Recruiter - Each night you may convert another player into a Mason. You and all Masons share a PM. You will die upon recruiting Mafia.
"Welcome to the team. Just be prepared: sometimes in the Wreckers, your first day is your last." - IDW Comics
Affiliation/Win Condition: You win with the Town. The Town wins when it eliminates all opposing factions.

Previously Dead:
Wylted - Medium - Town
Danielle - Traitor - Mafia
PeacefulChaos - Bodyguard - Town
Endark(1) - Unbalanced Vigilante - Town
Khaos_Mage - 50/50 Doctor - Town

Livivng Players
1) FourTrouble/Mikal
2) TheGreatAndPowerful
3) TN05
4) XLAV
5) Daltonian
6) EndarkenedRationalist(2) (sub-in for Josh_b)
7) ford_prefect
8) TUF
9) Lucky_Luciano

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
48 hours remaining
Daltonian
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8/29/2014 10:22:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
@Lucky

I watched you last night. My last action was 1x watcher.

I saw drafter and TUF visit you.

I just went back and reread the DP a little bit, and it seems that drafter claimed roleblocker/jailkeeper. If he visited you, that means he's either lying about his role or that he was probably trying to prevent you from getting your results.

VTL Drafter
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Daltonian
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8/29/2014 10:37:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 10:29:00 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
What was TUF's role?
He's The Hound and he's also a watcher.

He could probably collaborate my story, in which case.
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Daltonian
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8/29/2014 10:40:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 10:29:00 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
What was TUF's role?
FT, you're TP survivor. It's LYLO if there are 3 mafia left (which I think there are) and you decide to side with them next DP.

..if not Drafter, why should we not just kill you?
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EndarkenedRationalist
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8/29/2014 10:45:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 10:22:03 AM, Daltonian wrote:
@Lucky

I watched you last night. My last action was 1x watcher.

I saw drafter and TUF visit you.

I just went back and reread the DP a little bit, and it seems that drafter claimed roleblocker/jailkeeper. If he visited you, that means he's either lying about his role or that he was probably trying to prevent you from getting your results.

VTL Drafter

I hope you aren't planning on a lynch before we get TUF's results. Since he's a watcher, I'd like to see his report.
Daltonian
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8/29/2014 10:51:08 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 10:45:47 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 8/29/2014 10:22:03 AM, Daltonian wrote:
@Lucky

I watched you last night. My last action was 1x watcher.

I saw drafter and TUF visit you.

I just went back and reread the DP a little bit, and it seems that drafter claimed roleblocker/jailkeeper. If he visited you, that means he's either lying about his role or that he was probably trying to prevent you from getting your results.

VTL Drafter

I hope you aren't planning on a lynch before we get TUF's results. Since he's a watcher, I'd like to see his report.
I won't remove my vote yet, but if people start to pile on drafter, then I will.

Did you (josh) role claim yet?
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FourTrouble
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8/29/2014 11:05:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
If I'm lynched Today, you arrive at LYLO. That means you don't get any mislynches to work with. If you lynch wrong at LYLO, you lose. This would be a bad result for the town. It shifts control to the mafia, however you look at it.

If I'm not lynched Today, and if you the town mislynches, you arrive at LYLO. Except, this time, you got a mislynch -- Today's lynch. That gives the town more control than in the first scenario described above.

The concern is that I'll side with mafia if left alive at LYLO. Except, there is also a possibility that I side with town. The question you gotta ask is, what's the risk of leaving me alive compared with the risk of lynching me. If you lynch me, you get no mislynches. If you don't lynch me, you have a chance to at least get 1 mislynch.

Also: Whether I side with town or mafia, I still win. I don't have any risk, either way. I have no incentive to side with mafia, because I can win with town. So I'd rather just test out my skills at predicting who the mafia are.

The Town's best option, at this point, is to risk leaving me alive at LYLO.
FourTrouble
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8/29/2014 11:06:48 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
So there is a possibility that TUF tried to kill Lucky, and drafter protected him.
Would have been nice if Daltonian had kept his results to himself, until after TUF claimed his results.
Daltonian
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8/29/2014 11:09:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:06:48 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
So there is a possibility that TUF tried to kill Lucky, and drafter protected him.
Would have been nice if Daltonian had kept his results to himself, until after TUF claimed his results.
I guess this is a possibility.. but I thought TUF was in the mason PM..?
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Lucky_Luciano
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8/29/2014 11:13:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 10:22:03 AM, Daltonian wrote:
@Lucky

I watched you last night. My last action was 1x watcher.

I saw drafter and TUF visit you.

I just went back and reread the DP a little bit, and it seems that drafter claimed roleblocker/jailkeeper. If he visited you, that means he's either lying about his role or that he was probably trying to prevent you from getting your results.

VTL Drafter

TUF also watched me, and I was indeed roleblocked.
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Lucky_Luciano
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8/29/2014 11:14:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:06:48 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
So there is a possibility that TUF tried to kill Lucky, and drafter protected him.
Would have been nice if Daltonian had kept his results to himself, until after TUF claimed his results.

TUF was in the mason's and Maikuru isn't Naive Mason because I tested him for flavors.
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Daltonian
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8/29/2014 11:15:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:13:56 AM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 8/29/2014 10:22:03 AM, Daltonian wrote:
@Lucky

I watched you last night. My last action was 1x watcher.

I saw drafter and TUF visit you.

I just went back and reread the DP a little bit, and it seems that drafter claimed roleblocker/jailkeeper. If he visited you, that means he's either lying about his role or that he was probably trying to prevent you from getting your results.

VTL Drafter

TUF also watched me, and I was indeed roleblocked.
Is TUF a mason?
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Lucky_Luciano
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8/29/2014 11:15:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Drafter. Maikuru recruited TN05. We weren't going to recruit anyone in case of a redirect, so there's no breadcrumb from TN05, but TUF can confirm. We thought TN05 was a sure bet for town, we could have been wrong.
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Lucky_Luciano
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8/29/2014 11:16:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:15:39 AM, Daltonian wrote:
At 8/29/2014 11:13:56 AM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 8/29/2014 10:22:03 AM, Daltonian wrote:
@Lucky

I watched you last night. My last action was 1x watcher.

I saw drafter and TUF visit you.

I just went back and reread the DP a little bit, and it seems that drafter claimed roleblocker/jailkeeper. If he visited you, that means he's either lying about his role or that he was probably trying to prevent you from getting your results.

VTL Drafter

TUF also watched me, and I was indeed roleblocked.
Is TUF a mason?

Yes.
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Lucky_Luciano
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8/29/2014 11:17:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:15:26 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
Lynch drafter?

Is there any way for Dalton to know I was RBed AND that TUF visited me if he's mafia? If not, he can't be faking this.
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Lucky_Luciano
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8/29/2014 11:17:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:16:48 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
Was the recruitment on TN a failure?

He wasn't put in the PM, no. I asked Trekie a minute ago if the recruit finalizes before the NK. Obviously Maikuru was the NK target.
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Daltonian
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8/29/2014 11:17:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 11:15:52 AM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
VTL Drafter. Maikuru recruited TN05. We weren't going to recruit anyone in case of a redirect, so there's no breadcrumb from TN05, but TUF can confirm. We thought TN05 was a sure bet for town, we could have been wrong.
So, confirm who is in the mason PM:

- You
- Maikuru (dead)
- TUF
- TN05 (now in the PM or action failed?)
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