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Buddamoose
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9/19/2014 1:27:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
So seeing as there seems to be a decent amount of interest in this concept, i'm going to go ahead and post sign-ups for the league. Now keep in mind that the nature of this being "semi-invitationals" is that signing up, regardless of what order those sign-ups are in, is not a guarantee of inclusion.

As this is the inaugural season of this, there will obviously be players excluded, that might under any other circumstances not be excluded. The following is a description of the league, and how it will operate:

Introduction

The Mafia Premier League will be a group of players chosen by the group of three judges from the pool of players that sign-up for this league. Those judges are

-Zaradi
-TheGreatandPowerful
-Buddamoose

The Season will be comprised of 9 games in total, with two elimination periods set at the end of the third, and sixth games. A total of 16 players will be included at the onset of the season. So the season will shake down like this:

A) Round 1- 16 players, 3 games played, 4 players with the lowest cumulative point totals eliminated upon the completion of the 3 games.
B) Round 2- 12 players, 3 games played, 4 players with the lowest cumulative point totals eliminated upon the completion of the 3 games.
C) Round 3- 8 players, 3 games played, the player with the highest cumulative point total is crowned season champion.


Now to explain what is meant by cumulative point totals, it should be understood that cumulative point totals are the amount of points accrued up to that certain point in the season. That means that for elimination in round 1, the cumulative point totals would include games 1-3. In Round 2 the cumulative point totals would include games 4-6. In Round 3 the cumulative point totals would include games 7-9.

Points Systems

Now the points will be awarded in four ways. Two of which are inclusive for all affiliations, two of which are exclusive to each affiliation.

A) Cross-Affiliation Points Earning

1) Peer-voted Points System- At the end of each game, each present player will vote three players(excluding themselves). Those three players will each be given one point for being voted as top players in the game according to that player.

Obviously, player voting will be monitored to ensure that each participating player is voting in a non-strategic, and non-biased manner. So when signing up, realize that you are also agreeing to act in an ethical manner with your endgame voting.

2) MVP and Honorable Mention System- The group of three judges will also, at the end of the game determine a factional MVP for each faction present, as well as additional honorable mentions.(no less than 1 player, and no more than 4 players will recieve honorable mentions).

a) The MVP of each faction will be awarded 16 points
b) honorable mentions will recieve 8 points


- If a TP is present in the game then they will be considered as being eligible for a "scum"(mafia or TP) MVP or honorable mention, and not a seperate MVP or honorable mention than mafia.

Affiliation Exclusive Points Earnings

1) Reads Based Point System(TOWN)- As town you will have the opportunity to submit reads within your PM at the end of each dayphase. You will be awarded points based off of the success(correctness) of those reads. The points awarded will be adjusted based upon these factors:

a) Consistency in reads
b) percentage of successful scum reads


-Players that are dead will still be able to submit their reads via their PM, and thus still be able to accrue points even if no longer alive within the game.
-The exact point awardings are stil being worked out, however the system will be designed with the chief factor being that no one way to earn points is above any of the others. That being, that the maximum total points earned from reads as town, will not be any higher than the maximum total points earned from peer-reviewed voting, recieving MVP, or the following way to earn points as scum.

2) Survival Based Points System(MAFIA- As mafia you will earn points based upon how long you survive in a game. As the chief goal of scum is to survive, as that is how victory is quickest, and best achieved. The points earning will be cumulative, but capped at 16 points in total.

A) Survive to DP2- 2 points awarded
B) Survive to DP3- 4 points awarded
C) Survive to DP4- 6 points awarded
D) Survive to any point beyond DP4 or to endgame)- maximum of 16 points awarded
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Mafia Premier League Games

The Mafia Premier League Games will follow a stringent game structure, mechanics, and set of rules.

1)Structure- The Structure of the games will be a themed, semi-open role set-up, with the total number of scum(mafia and TP's) disclosed. So to show an example of how an example game would be:

- Theme: Action TV Show Characters

- Roles: (Insert list of roles, including description of roles, as well as a list of potential flavors following the list of potential roles.)

- Number of Players: 16
- Number of Mafia: 4
- Number of Third Parties: 1

Keep in mind that this is an example, and the theme, roles, and affiliation proportions will vary.

A) Themes: The Themes of the season will be disclosed upon the inception of each specific round, and only those games being played in those rounds will be disclosed. So let's say at the start of Round 1 for example, it will be disclosed hypothetically that the Games will be:

- Horror Movie Characters
- Famous Athletes
- Musicians
The Themes themselves will be very broad, unspecific themes, so as to afford scum(mafia or TP) plenty of lee-way in fake-claiming. However keep in mind, that as themed games, there will be a general pattern to how the games are made. For example, in musicians mafia, it might hypothetically be West Coast V East Coast. Or British V American, or so on so forth through the different possibilities. The pattern will however, be at least somewhat clear to mafia and not so obtuse as to never be gotten from some critical thinking about the character and roles supplied to them.

B) Roles- It should be noted that potential roles will change from game to game. Potential flavors will change from game to game. However there will always be a list of potential roles, and flavors supplied. This does not mean that such roles are guaranteed to be in the game, nor does it mean such flavors are guaranteed to be in the game.

Also keep in mind that any role can be any affiliation, and that multiples of roles can and at some points likely will, be included within the same affiliation.

C) Mechanics- Role mechanics will not be further explained beyond that which is given for a description. That is unless the player themself has that role. If you do not have the role, any hypotheticals on what would happen if X did this and Y did that, in relation to said role, will not be supplied. In other words, don't expect the moderators to contradict or confirm what a player is saying, its not going to happen.

Basic Priority for Roles will be constant throughout the season and will be as follows:

1) Non-Lethal Mafia
2) Non-Lethal Town
3) Lethal Mafia
4) Lethal Town

This means that the mafia NK can be affected by town roles.

In the following post I will be explaining what the three judges will be studying in terms of vetting those players that sign up to be considered for inclusion, as well as the overarching rules and ethical code of conduct that will be required to be followed by participants throughout the season.

DO NOT POST UNTIL THIS EXPLANATION IS COMPLETE AND A SIGN-UP LIST HAS BEEN POSTED
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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Buddamoose
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9/19/2014 2:15:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Participants vetting/determination

Of those that sign up, the three judges will decide players based upon these factors:

1) Skill Level- this will be determined by looking at previous play, and making an assessment on how skilled a player is, or vice-versa

2) Activity levels- this will be determined by looking at previous play, and making an assessment on how active a player is, or vice-versa

3) Past game experience- obviously there is a minimum requirement of games played to be considered for admittance into this inaugural season. This specific amount will not be disclosed as of yet, as it hasn't been concretely determined. But suffice to say, if you havent played in at least a handful of Regular Games(not beginner's games) then you likely will not pass the vetting process.

4) Ethical Conduct- this will be determined by looking at previous play, and/or modding, and assessing how the player has acted ethically. Have they played to their win-con? Have they acted impartially and objectively as a mod? Have they replaced out, or dropped their activity level because of recieving a certain affiliation?

5) Community Advancement and Interaction- This will be determined by looking at how a person interacts with the mafia community on this site. Are they active in bringing improvements and ideas as to how to improve site mafia quality? Are they helpful with newer players, and in helping these newer players gain experience? How have their interactions with other players been on the site(positive or negative?)?


Obviously, as with any vetting process, there will be certain players left out, solely because of there only being a limited number of spots within the league(16). So there will be certain players that may feel slighted, and/or feel that they deserve to be in the laegue itself.

It is understood that this will happen, and Zaradi, Drafter(TGaP), and myself will take vetting players with the utmost care and examination. i would respectfully request that potential exclusion not be taken as a slight on one as a player, or one as a person, but rather as encouragement to improve ones play and conduct, so as to ensure inclusion in any further potential seasons that may come(or additional divisions of the league if this goes well).

Rules and Code of Conduct

The following rules and code of conduct are to be followed by all participants in the League itself. If you feel that for any reason you will not, or can not follow these, then it is respectfully requested that you not sign-up. Signing up for the League, acts as an agreeance to following the subsequent rules/code of conduct, and failure to follow said rules will be dealt with in a manner that is deemed fair and just by the acting judges of the Mafia Premier League.

A) All participants are expected to play to their win condition- failure to play to ones win condition will result in a penalty as determined by the acting judges of the lague. Failure to play to ones win-condition includes but is not limited to the following:

- Self-Voting
- outting affiliated members(as scum)
- purposeful poor or unstrategic play


B) All Participants are expected to maintain adequate activity levels. Adequate activity levels are at the discretion of the acting judges of the league. However, as a general rule of thumb, a player should feasibly be posting between 5-10 times per day phase. Exceptions can be made based upon personal circumstance, however will not be given out lightly.

C) No discussing of ongoing games in unsanctioned PM's, or within other games on the site. There are no exceptions to this, and any such participants found to be violating this policy will be immediately suspended indefinitely, and a reserve participant will be given their slot, No Exceptions

D) No copy pasting of anything from ones own role PM. Paraphrasing is permissable. Failure to properly paraphrase will result in a punishment deemed fair and just by the acting judges of the league

E) Over-use of vulgar and profane language is impermissable. A player will be given a courtesy warning to refrain from the use of such language. If such behavior does not cease then a punishment will be given as deemed fit by the acting judges of the league.

F) All participants are expected to act respectfully towards other participants of the league. Failure to do so will result in an initial warning. Further failure to act in accordance with this will result in a punishment as deemed fit by the acting judges of the league

G) No Hydras are permitted within the League. Each person is expected to perform on their merits, and their merits alone. Failure to abide by this would fall under a violation of Rule C, and would result in an indefinite suspension, and placement of a reserve player within that participants spot.

H) Day Phases will last 72 hours. Night Phases will last 36 hours. No extensions will be afforded.

I) There will be no replacements except in the case of a player violating the rules/code of conduct and being indefinitely suspended. Thus, the abiding and following of Rule B is paramount within this league.

J) Such penalties for breaking of rules/code of conduct include but are not limited to:

- Docking of points from a players cumulative point total
- single or multiple game suspensions
- indefinite suspensions


The exact nature of the punishments will be determined by the acting judges of the league itself, and will be handed out in a manner that is fair and just, based upon the aggregiousness of the commited infractions.

K) Further rules/code of conduct addtions may be inserted as situations arise and unique problems that are not covered under the rules laid forth occur. In the case that such rules/changes are added, the following of those rules, will be required from the point of its inception. Any infractions commited previous to the addition will not be punishable unless deemed necessary by the league judges. This should only happen under extreme circumstances.

NEXT POST WILL BE SIGN-UPS
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
Buddamoose
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9/19/2014 2:24:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well then, now to the fun part. If you are interested in participating in this inaugural league and in helping test out this experimental concept, feel free to sign up. The actual start of this wont be right away, as there are refinements that still need to be made to certain things. An exact ETA can't exactly be given either, being that Zaradi, TGaP, and I are unsure of how long these refinements might take. As well as how long it might take to create the games for the season itself.

If anyone wishes to submit a game for use within the league, understand that the game itself will potentially, and likely be changed in certain ways to fit within the set parameters of the league games, and the theme itself should be broad, and unspecific. We're shooting for having all the games created before the season starts. That means we will be creating:

3 16 player games
3 12 player games
3 8 player games

as well as refining further the points award system so it is balanced and fair. So i'll estimate this can potentially be done in a couple weeks, perhaps sooner depending on if people submit game ideas to be used. Of course, if you are wanting to be a participant, you shouldn't submit a game, as it would make little sense to be playing in a game that you created yourself.

We also need to vet through players to get to the base 16 players, which will take some time as well, as its going to require some intense discussion and debating on who to include and exclude. If you are included, congratulations, if you are excluded, please do not be angry or feel slighted, as i can already tell you the decisions will not come lightly or easily to do so.

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"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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9/19/2014 2:28:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 2:24:34 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
Well then, now to the fun part. If you are interested in participating in this inaugural league and in helping test out this experimental concept, feel free to sign up. The actual start of this wont be right away, as there are refinements that still need to be made to certain things. An exact ETA can't exactly be given either, being that Zaradi, TGaP, and I are unsure of how long these refinements might take. As well as how long it might take to create the games for the season itself.

If anyone wishes to submit a game for use within the league, understand that the game itself will potentially, and likely be changed in certain ways to fit within the set parameters of the league games, and the theme itself should be broad, and unspecific. We're shooting for having all the games created before the season starts. That means we will be creating:

3 16 player games
3 12 player games
3 8 player games

as well as refining further the points award system so it is balanced and fair. So i'll estimate this can potentially be done in a couple weeks, perhaps sooner depending on if people submit game ideas to be used. Of course, if you are wanting to be a participant, you shouldn't submit a game, as it would make little sense to be playing in a game that you created yourself.

We also need to vet through players to get to the base 16 players, which will take some time as well, as its going to require some intense discussion and debating on who to include and exclude. If you are included, congratulations, if you are excluded, please do not be angry or feel slighted, as i can already tell you the decisions will not come lightly or easily to do so.

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I don't like the points being based on opinions as opposed to facts but I can see it's a balance between the 2 here. I also typically don't sign up to things I may be excluded from. Don't make me regret this. Also if only 1 or 2 people are going to be excluded from this I'd appreciate the option of trading my place to one of them as I see fit.

I'll start with 30 slots, but just add more as needed. Again, signing up does not guarantee a spot as a participant, it just guarantees that you will be considered to be a participant. Thanks to all in advance for your interest, and I look forward to getting this underway!
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9/19/2014 2:29:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
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"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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9/19/2014 2:45:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 2:29:58 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
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Lucky_Luciano
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9/19/2014 3:54:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I think that if I signed up for this then people would realize how bad I really am. xD
"Age is not important" - Airmax 2014
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Buddamoose
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9/19/2014 4:01:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 3:54:06 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
I think that if I signed up for this then people would realize how bad I really am. xD

Lol, is that really a good reason to not sign up tho? ;)
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
Lucky_Luciano
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9/19/2014 4:02:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 4:01:58 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 9/19/2014 3:54:06 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
I think that if I signed up for this then people would realize how bad I really am. xD

Lol, is that really a good reason to not sign up tho? ;)

Yes! I have a reputation to uphold! I need to retire before I leave any more black marks. xD
"Age is not important" - Airmax 2014
"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014
Buddamoose
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9/19/2014 4:08:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 4:02:34 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
At 9/19/2014 4:01:58 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 9/19/2014 3:54:06 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
I think that if I signed up for this then people would realize how bad I really am. xD

Lol, is that really a good reason to not sign up tho? ;)

Yes! I have a reputation to uphold! I need to retire before I leave any more black marks. xD

Ahh, the quit while you are ahead philosophy. Thats respectable
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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9/19/2014 4:12:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Aww... I wanna join... But I ain't got time. *sobs*
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I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

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MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

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P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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9/19/2014 4:22:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 4:12:43 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
Aww... I wanna join... But I ain't got time. *sobs*

Well keep in mind its not like this is gonna be starting up ASAP. Its gonna take a little bit of time to get goin. But beyond that, it'd require no more effort than any other mafia game. With the exclusion of being town, where one would have to keep paying attention to submit reads post DP's.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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9/19/2014 4:49:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/19/2014 4:22:38 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 9/19/2014 4:12:43 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
Aww... I wanna join... But I ain't got time. *sobs*

Well keep in mind its not like this is gonna be starting up ASAP. Its gonna take a little bit of time to get goin. But beyond that, it'd require no more effort than any other mafia game. With the exclusion of being town, where one would have to keep paying attention to submit reads post DP's.

I have exams next year May-June, which would determine whether I win a schol or not. I have to finish my syllabuses by next term for those exams, and do an SBA [project] for all 5 subjects. Also, I have lessons and training for archery.
My Applied Math teacher has so far for the three weeks that we've supposed to have class has showed up to 3 classes and missed 7.
My parents are being EXTRA hard on me, 'cause they want me to go away to study.

tl dr: I'm almost in Hell.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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9/22/2014 10:26:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Bump
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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9/22/2014 3:31:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
What happens when a player is replaced out for inactivity?
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9/23/2014 9:08:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/22/2014 3:31:58 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
What happens when a player is replaced out for inactivity?

The simplest answer to that is that it doesnt happen. Largely inactive players will be screened out via the vetting process.

Inactive players, if that were to happen, in their own right in an individual game wont be replaced out. Just means they wont get as many points as they potentially could and come eliminatory periods, will naturally by default of not getting the points they could have being active, be eliminated from play.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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9/23/2014 9:10:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Inactivity always has a large impact on the game being played, even for the other players in the game. To say that inactivity won't happen is naive. There will be 9 games. Life happens, players aren't going to be able to remain active for the long without periods of absence, at least not all of them. Have you considered longer DPs than the DDO standard to allow for periods of V/LA?
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9/23/2014 9:10:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Tl;dr

What Zaradi, TgaP, and myself dont prevent via vetting, will naturally sort itself out.

The parameters examined for the selections are detailed in post #2.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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9/25/2014 11:52:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I wouldn't mind joining this but only if you don't get enough players because I know that I am not that good at mafia and will probably hinder the team I am on more then help.
How come when I hit review it sometimes adds my post without me clicking add post?
Does this happen to other people?

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Learn to use emoticons DDO.
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9/26/2014 12:48:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/23/2014 9:10:05 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
Inactivity always has a large impact on the game being played, even for the other players in the game. To say that inactivity won't happen is naive. There will be 9 games. Life happens, players aren't going to be able to remain active for the long without periods of absence, at least not all of them. Have you considered longer DPs than the DDO standard to allow for periods of V/LA?

This is a definitely a good suggestion. It wil have the effect of hyperinflating DP's i would think, but to counteract any potential V/LoA's its a worthy trade-off.

The major issue with that though, is longer DP's mean the leage itself take longer to run its course, increasing the likelihood of major V/LoA caused inactivity
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"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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9/26/2014 11:46:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
What if only your two best games in each set count? That way if a player has issues with timing during one game, it doesn't hurt them.
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9/26/2014 11:46:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/26/2014 11:46:29 AM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
What if only your two best games in each set count? That way if a player has issues with timing during one game, it doesn't hurt them.

This also prevents a scum-sided player to get screwed by his team derping or an unlucky investigation early on.
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9/26/2014 3:25:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/26/2014 11:46:29 AM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:
What if only your two best games in each set count? That way if a player has issues with timing during one game, it doesn't hurt them.

Another excellent suggestion! You sir are full of good ideas
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9/30/2014 8:19:58 AM
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Didn't see this. I was actually about to ask if this was still gonna happen. Anyways, /in if I qualify.
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9/30/2014 8:31:02 AM
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Have they replaced out, or dropped their activity level because of recieving a certain affiliation?

I wonder who you are talking about here ;-)
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10/1/2014 10:41:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/29/2014 6:48:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Ohai.

Hai :D
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10/1/2014 4:38:40 PM
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At 9/30/2014 8:19:58 AM, TUF wrote:
Didn't see this. I was actually about to ask if this was still gonna happen. Anyways, /in if I qualify.

Thans for signing up. Please have patience while the league games are made and the scoring system, rules, etc. are refined
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10/1/2014 9:48:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/1/2014 4:38:40 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 9/30/2014 8:19:58 AM, TUF wrote:
Didn't see this. I was actually about to ask if this was still gonna happen. Anyways, /in if I qualify.

Thans for signing up. Please have patience while the league games are made and the scoring system, rules, etc. are refined

You should send this to f- 16 and bluesteel and get some legends in here :)
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