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TheGreatAndPowerful
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9/23/2014 8:49:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Based on the games currently available in the Mafia Archives.

Mod Statistics:

Top 10 Moddingest Mods
1) bluesteel (12 games)
2) socialpinko/Noumena (11 games)
3/4) drafterman/TheGreatandPowerful & TUF (9 games)
5) F-16 (8 games)
6/7/8/9/10) Buddamoose, Danielle, Logic_on_Rails, Mestari/Lucky, tvellalott (7 games)

Top 5 Mafia-Friendly Mods (modded 3 or more games)
1) Blackhawk, lannan, royalpaladin (3 out of 4 Mafia Wins)
2) bluesteel (8 out of 12 Mafia Wins)
3/4/5) Jordan, Lordknukle, USM (2 out of 3 Mafia Wins)

Top 3 Town-Friendly Mods (modded 3 or more games)
1) medic (3 out of 4 Town Wins)
2/3) Khaos, Zaradi (2 out of 3 Town Wins)

Top 5 Most Balanced Mods (Mafia Wins = Town Wins, modded 3 or more games)
1) socialpinko/Noumena (4:4)
2) Mestari/Lucky (3:3)
3/4/5) Blackvoid, Ore_Ele, tvellalott (2:2)

Overall Game Statistics
Total Games - 190
Games with Town or Mafia winner - 149
- Town Wins - 67 (44.97%)
- Mafia Wins - 82 (55.03%)

Past 100 Games
Games with Town or Mafia winner - 76
- Town Wins - 37 (48.68%)
- Mafia Wins - 39 (51.32%)

Past 50 Games
Games with Town or Mafia winner - 38
- Town Wins - 22 (57.89%)
- Mafia Wins - 16 (42.11%)

Past 10 games
Games with Town or Mafia winner - 9
- Town Wins - 5 (55.56%)
- Mafia Wins - 4 (44.44%)
TUF
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9/23/2014 8:59:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Looks like town has progressively been getting much better. Remember when it was often complained that mods were making mafia too powerful (Thaddeus I think brought this up originally). Do you think it had anything to do with play styles being crappy, (IE following silly SOP's, trolling, etc), or do you really think it is mod related?
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TheGreatAndPowerful
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9/23/2014 9:24:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/23/2014 8:59:58 AM, TUF wrote:
Looks like town has progressively been getting much better. Remember when it was often complained that mods were making mafia too powerful (Thaddeus I think brought this up originally). Do you think it had anything to do with play styles being crappy, (IE following silly SOP's, trolling, etc), or do you really think it is mod related?

I noticed the same thing. While Town is getting better, it's more of a leveling off toward 50/50. Looking at all the games, the rather large proportion of Mafia wins in the beginning will skew overall results:

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(Red = % of Mafia wins of all games up to that point; Blue = Town)

Why this is the case... who knows? It's probably a variety of reasons.

I think mods are becoming better at balancing games. Either through experience (their own or by looking at other designs) or through getting out of their system the desire to do whacky or non-conventional games (we all want to do a game with a gimmick, even though we know such games are often horribly unbalanced/swingy).

Players are definitely getting more skilled. I see people relying on statistical analysis more (which is good). Also, as players get more experienced, there is a stabilization of overall meta.

Also, I think stabilization of the player base is important. Games are primarily made up of players with extensive Mafia histories, sprinkled in with a couple noobs here or there.

Or it could just be a fluke.