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BEGINNERS Mafia 30.3: DP1

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9/25/2014 3:21:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION

The essence of DDO Mafia is the themed game. Almost all games on mafia are themed games. A themed game introduces new elements (and sometimes new mechanics) that add complexity and (hopefully) fun to the game.

In addition to an alignment and a role, players are also given characters that fit in with the theme. The roles almost (but not always or necessarily) fit with the character. This can be expressed in a number of ways. For example, if the theme is a TV show or movie, and your character is a cop, officer, or policeman, he might very will have the Mafia role of "Cop" due to the similarity in profession, if not function. Alternatively, if the character isn't such an occupation, but is otherwise good at discerning between good and evil, they might also be a "Cop" due to the similarity in function, if not profession.

Themes are limited only by the imagination. Most have to do with some form of media, such as TV shows, Literature, and Movies. Others are more abstract, like philosophies or politics. Literally anything can be a theme.

As said, themes add new elements to the game, which are summarized as follows:

1.Partial-claiming - Role-claiming can be dangerous for Townies to do, as it helps mafia decide who they need to kill. Instead of role-claiming, you can character claim. While your character may hint at your role, it is still safer than full claiming.

2. Fake-claiming - Mafia normally have to fake claim their roles when forced to claim in theme-less games. In themed games they also have to fake claim characters. Arguably this is more difficult. In role-claiming, they simply have to avoid being counter-claimed. In character claiming, they have to claim a character from the theme, is consistent with their role, and is major enough to be expected (though not all characters in the game will be major).

3. Patterns - Usually, there will be some distinguishing factor between the different factions. Normally this is a good vs. evil type discrimination, but not always. Remember, the Mafia start the game knowing 1/3rd of the role PMs, so have a head start in discerning any patterns and obfuscating Town's ability to also learn it.

4. Mod Psychology - Creating a themed game, including writing PMs, requires more input from the mod. Based on analysis of the game's creation, how the role PMs are written, and any patterns discovered, you can try and determine how the game was constructed in an effort to hunt for scum. However, this is more of an art than a science. Mistakes and deliberately traps created by the mod can hinder such an analysis. Trying to predict the mod's psychology is a double edged sword.

In this game, role were assigned randomly, but not randomly generated. In other words, I selected the roles (and tried to balance them) and then randomly assigned each player one of the roles I had pre-selected. Also, a complete list of possible roles can be found here: https://docs.google.com...

This is my first time setting up a game and deciding a theme. I hope it goes well. Have fun
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9/25/2014 3:23:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Living Players

1. Krieg
2. Yama
3. Budda
4. Zaradi
5. Lannan
6. Rev8
7. Dalton
8. Khaos

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch DP ends in 72 hours.
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9/25/2014 3:43:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Khaos to get the ball rolling.
How come when I hit review it sometimes adds my post without me clicking add post?
Does this happen to other people?

#LEARN TO SPEAK UP
#Cause I can
Learn to use emoticons DDO.
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9/25/2014 9:11:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Oh dear God...my role...

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"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:12:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Wylted, you a**. XD
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM
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Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:22:03 AM
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At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

XD I suppose it can't hurt; but I"m going to soft claim for now, too. I"m the most disgusting object that"s on the list.
Check out my DDO FanFic! http://www.debate.org...

"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:24:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
On second thought, I'll just claim, because it definitely isn't on the list. I'm the...
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TOILET BOWL BRUSH! FEAR ME! XD
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:26:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:24:20 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
On second thought, I'll just claim, because it definitely isn't on the list. I'm the...
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TOILET BOWL BRUSH! FEAR ME! XD

That's because that is your CHARACTER.
Your role should be after that, and should be on the list.
Also, you may need to claim your role, but not at this time. Let's see what others say.
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:27:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:22:03 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

XD I suppose it can't hurt; but I"m going to soft claim for now, too. I"m the most disgusting object that"s on the list.

What list?
My work here is, finally, done.
RevL8ion
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9/25/2014 9:27:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:26:31 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:24:20 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
On second thought, I'll just claim, because it definitely isn't on the list. I'm the...
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TOILET BOWL BRUSH! FEAR ME! XD

That's because that is your CHARACTER.
Your role should be after that, and should be on the list.
Also, you may need to claim your role, but not at this time. Let's see what others say.

Ohh. It's part of the theme then? And what is the theme, anyway? O.o
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:27:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:27:01 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:22:03 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

XD I suppose it can't hurt; but I"m going to soft claim for now, too. I"m the most disgusting object that"s on the list.

What list?

https://docs.google.com...

But I suppose I can find the role description in here if I look closely.
Check out my DDO FanFic! http://www.debate.org...

"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:29:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:27:58 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:27:01 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:22:03 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

XD I suppose it can't hurt; but I"m going to soft claim for now, too. I"m the most disgusting object that"s on the list.

What list?

https://docs.google.com...

But I suppose I can find the role description in here if I look closely.

Except toilet and brush are not on that list, so how are you the most disgusting object on it?
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:32:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:29:37 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:27:58 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:27:01 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:22:03 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

XD I suppose it can't hurt; but I"m going to soft claim for now, too. I"m the most disgusting object that"s on the list.

What list?

https://docs.google.com...

But I suppose I can find the role description in here if I look closely.

Except toilet and brush are not on that list, so how are you the most disgusting object on it?

Assumption, since most of the things on that list weren't necessarily disgusting, so I just thought that I didn't find it, and it would probably the most disgusting one.
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:38:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:32:06 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

Except toilet and brush are not on that list, so how are you the most disgusting object on it?

Assumption, since most of the things on that list weren't necessarily disgusting, so I just thought that I didn't find it, and it would probably the most disgusting one.

You should full claim, IMO.
Make sure you paraphrase.
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:45:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Found it. I'm the Miller, so don't hurt me, cops. T-T
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:46:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

The theme name of your role or just the role itself?
Check out my DDO FanFic! http://www.debate.org...

"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:48:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:46:06 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

The theme name of your role or just the role itself?

Role PMs (in this game) are structured like this:
You are toilet brush. (character)
blah blah blah. (justification - the reason your role ties into the character)
You are miller. (role)
blah blah blah. (how your role works, if applicable)
You win with town. (wincon)

I would like your justification please.
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:49:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:48:13 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:46:06 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:20:30 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:14:14 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
Hey, wait a second. I can't find my role on that Google Doc. >.>

Interesting.
Why don't you character claim, while I tell you that I can be purchased over the counter?

The theme name of your role or just the role itself?

Role PMs (in this game) are structured like this:
You are toilet brush. (character)
blah blah blah. (justification - the reason your role ties into the character)
You are miller. (role)
blah blah blah. (how your role works, if applicable)
You win with town. (wincon)

I would like your justification please.

*facepalm* Fail. I just wish that Wylted would've capitalized the role name. >.<
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:51:40 AM
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At 9/25/2014 9:49:32 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

I would like your justification please.

*facepalm* Fail. I just wish that Wylted would've capitalized the role name. >.<

For the record, if and when you are miller, it is SOP to claim it DP1 (arguably in your first post).
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:52:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:51:40 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:49:32 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

I would like your justification please.

*facepalm* Fail. I just wish that Wylted would've capitalized the role name. >.<

For the record, if and when you are miller, it is SOP to claim it DP1 (arguably in your first post).

*noob moment* SOP?
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:52:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:51:40 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:49:32 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

I would like your justification please.

*facepalm* Fail. I just wish that Wylted would've capitalized the role name. >.<

For the record, if and when you are miller, it is SOP to claim it DP1 (arguably in your first post).

And I still couldn't find anything that could be purchased over the counter. >.>
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:53:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:52:25 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:51:40 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:49:32 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

I would like your justification please.

*facepalm* Fail. I just wish that Wylted would've capitalized the role name. >.<

For the record, if and when you are miller, it is SOP to claim it DP1 (arguably in your first post).

*noob moment* SOP?

Standard Operating Procedure.
Like lynching a counterclaimed role DP1 in a themeless game, or lynching a counterclaimed character in a themed game.
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:54:25 AM
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At 9/25/2014 9:52:56 AM, RevL8ion wrote:


And I still couldn't find anything that could be purchased over the counter. >.>

That's because it's not a clue to my role.
My work here is, finally, done.
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9/25/2014 9:54:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:53:42 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:52:25 AM, RevL8ion wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:51:40 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:49:32 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

I would like your justification please.

*facepalm* Fail. I just wish that Wylted would've capitalized the role name. >.<

For the record, if and when you are miller, it is SOP to claim it DP1 (arguably in your first post).

*noob moment* SOP?

Standard Operating Procedure.
Like lynching a counterclaimed role DP1 in a themeless game, or lynching a counterclaimed character in a themed game.

We all know how that worked out last game. -____________________________-
Check out my DDO FanFic! http://www.debate.org...

"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 9:55:08 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:54:25 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/25/2014 9:52:56 AM, RevL8ion wrote:


And I still couldn't find anything that could be purchased over the counter. >.>

That's because it's not a clue to my role.

D: D: D:

So no soft claim?
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"Revelation is a tyrannical despot, not 13 years old." -max.wallace

"hehehehe...ahahaha....wahaha...AHHHHHHHHHHHAHA....pant...pant...pant...""...that's like sex for you, isn't it?" RevL8ion on DDO and FlyingForever on Skype

"Just remember that Yama is more powerful than you, little mortal." -Yama

"XD I like you, Rev. Maybe I won't kill you off right away." -Endark
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9/25/2014 10:03:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/25/2014 9:54:41 AM, RevL8ion wrote:

*noob moment* SOP?

Standard Operating Procedure.
Like lynching a counterclaimed role DP1 in a themeless game, or lynching a counterclaimed character in a themed game.

We all know how that worked out last game. -____________________________-

There are reasons for SOPs.
If you don't lynch someone who is caught in a lie, then when do you lynch them? I mean if cop says he got guilty on you and you say "no, you're lying", are you not going to lynch either of them? It's the same idea.

Which brings us to the miller. By saying you investigate guilty early, like right away, it shows that you are not trying to be convenient. It is a lot harder to believe you are town if, after a cop says you are scum, you say, "that's because I'm miller".

Now, this is game theory, and it is tangental.
You need to state your justification for your role. NOW.

VTL Rev
My work here is, finally, done.