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Lucky_Luciano
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9/28/2014 9:37:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Graveyard

Khaos/Bsh1 and TGAP(1) died last DP. Nobody died at night.

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Khaos/Bsh1 - You are now a cop. - Town

Specialization: Gain the ability to send your result to a player of your choice, as well as yourself.

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TGAP(1) - You are now 1x lynchproof. - Town

Specialization: Gain Permanent Lynchproof

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Endarkened - Cop - Town
Debatability - Roleblocker - Town
Budda - The Beast / Watcher - Third Party
Adam - Miller - Town
Bullish - Role Recycler - Town

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Living Players

1. Bossy
2. TUF
3. Trekie - Replaced by TGAP(2)
4. Zaradi
5. Maikuru
6. Bullish(2)
7. Ford
8. Daltonian

With 8 players remaining, it take 5 votes to lynch. The DP ends in 120 hours, which is 10:40pm EDT, 9:40pm DDO Time on Friday, the 3rd.
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Maikuru
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9/28/2014 9:40:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
If there are 3 scum, we're at MYLO.

Drafter, full claim with actions.

We need to know who was in what area last night. It is important.
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9/28/2014 9:42:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
On DP2

So let me get this straight.

Khaos and bsh1 are a hydra.
Khaos crumbs "batman" and "my roles works with 2 people" DP1.
Khaos claims that Endark claimed cop in their region.
Endark denies it.
Endark stops denying it.
Khaos claims hider, and I have his behind TGAP.
Bsh1 says that cops with an incinerator result should self cop to checkfor flavor.
Khaos scum reads Endark and TGAP.
Khaos and bsh1 collectively and explicitly refuses to clarify shyt.
Khaos finally claims cop.
Khaos claims this is a CC on Endark, and that he got a guilty on debate.
http://www.debate.org... these words were EXACTLY what went through my mind at that point.
If bossy could have just claimed slightly earlier...
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Endark flips cop.
Debate flips town.

I scum read Khaos.

On DP3

Khaos/bsh1 don't follow the plan, and feel no remorse.
Khaos blames it on bsh1.
At this point I'm rather surprise this DP lasted past the page.
Khaos speaks bullshyt.
Bossy claims to have been RB"d. Can priests even be RB"d, considering they are passive?
http://www.debate.org... I feel that TUF has gotten less sure of himself the more games he has played. He shouldn"t feel so, as you"re bound to be wrong, in fact we"re all probably wrong a majority of the time. Regardless, lynching is original tool to kill scum, and we shouldn"t be too afraid of potential mislynches. I"ve played with total noobs who NL 3 days in a row and I would yell at them "this is mafia not some BS courst system people get lynched for next to no evidence because otherwise you lose!"
http://www.debate.org... excellent analysis of Khaos.
So we have a vig.
I"m on page 7 and TGAP, TUF, Khaos, and Maikuru have been absolutely spamming this DP. I"m scrolling past all of these until I get to another person"s post.
http://www.debate.org... Malacoda was given 2 choices, and chose the one I would have chosen as well.
http://www.debate.org... yes.
Holy crap how can Khaos possibly keep up with his no visiting bossy BS 10 pages in!?
http://www.debate.org... I"m sorry you fellows had to wait this entire time for a forfeit.
Budda claims BP.
http://www.debate.org... Apparently so. It wasn"t an auto-kill either, since my zone only had 2 people. The other person was Zaradi, replaced by Budda. I was the only one in my zone last NP.

DP3, I would have voted Khaos and kept that vote on him the entire DP.

Reads up to this point

Behavioually, I feel that TGAP and Maikuru are both very town.
Bossy is also town, but this depends on whether priests are blockable.
Ford was my scum read from DP1. He"s still slight scum on account of inactivity.
TUF and Dalt are mostly null.
treckie and Zaradi/Budda are both contenders for scum.

Claim list

Bullish " tracker
Maikuru " Strongman vig
Bossy " priest
Ford " super saint
TUF " doc
Treckie " N/A
Budda " BP
Dalt " has dalt claimed?
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9/28/2014 9:45:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Also, I've reached level 4, with no other modifications.

Tonight, we should all go to 1 region and have an extended DP.
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Maikuru
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9/28/2014 9:46:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:
My action failed.

Maikuru, why didn't you kill last night?

You mean you were roleblocked?

I didn't vig because I didn't want to get redirected.
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9/28/2014 9:46:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:45:50 PM, Bullish wrote:
Also, I've reached level 4, with no other modifications.

Tonight, we should all go to 1 region and have an extended DP.

So, I've heard.
LOL
My work here is, finally, done.
Bullish
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9/28/2014 9:47:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:46:47 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:45:50 PM, Bullish wrote:
Also, I've reached level 4, with no other modifications.

Tonight, we should all go to 1 region and have an extended DP.

So, I've heard.
LOL

LOL
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9/28/2014 9:47:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:45:50 PM, Bullish wrote:
Also, I've reached level 4, with no other modifications.

Tonight, we should all go to 1 region and have an extended DP.

Who was in malacoda's zone pm on NP2?
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Bullish
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9/28/2014 9:48:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:46:33 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:
My action failed.

Maikuru, why didn't you kill last night?

You mean you were roleblocked?

I didn't vig because I didn't want to get redirected.

Given the lack of NKs on previous nights, all you would have done is put as at an odd number, which is good for town.
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9/28/2014 9:49:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:47:28 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:45:50 PM, Bullish wrote:
Also, I've reached level 4, with no other modifications.

Tonight, we should all go to 1 region and have an extended DP.

Who was in malacoda's zone pm on NP2?

It was in my large post

http://www.debate.org... Apparently so. It wasn"t an auto-kill either, since my zone only had 2 people. The other person was Zaradi, replaced by Budda. I was the only one in my zone last NP.
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9/28/2014 9:51:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:48:17 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:46:33 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:
My action failed.

Maikuru, why didn't you kill last night?

You mean you were roleblocked?

I didn't vig because I didn't want to get redirected.

Given the lack of NKs on previous nights, all you would have done is put as at an odd number, which is good for town.

Misvigging isn't only about the dead townie. I knew if khaos flipped town, my asss was very likely grass. All I'd need is another dead townie on my hands and this game would be over with my mislynch.
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Maikuru
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9/28/2014 9:59:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm most comfortable with bossy. By POE, that leaves:

TUF
Drafter2 (Trekie)
Budda2 (Zaradi)
Bullish2 (Malacoda)
Ford
Daltonian

Tuf and dalt are both extremely active and I get the feeling that they are townies arguing with each other. At the very least, they weren't two scum arguing for the benefit of me and budda last night.

Drafter2 (Trekie)
Budda2 (Zaradi)
Bullish2 (Malacoda)
Ford

These are the four least active players, by far. Inactivity to this extent is not Ford's town MO (from what I saw in transformers). As town, he is extremely active, confrontation, and open to throwing out theories and votes. I'm not seeing this here.

Trekie is a very skilled player, and while she isn't the most active as town, her town contributions are smart and unique. Here, I don't think any of her posts have been anything but commenting on other people's quotes. This is indicative of a scum with nothing new to add.

Zaradi was quiet, so there's not much to go on. The only comment that struck me was something about debating whether or not he should go ahead and just hammer adam early on. The only other read is the behavioral difference I see in budda's reduced activity since switching over. This is true both in the forum and in the zone last night, where he essentially told tuf and dalt to stop arguing and, when I asked him for a lynch order, told me he'd wait for the DP. As someone who has been playing this entire game (although as different roles), I'd expect more insight.

I've never played with Malacoda before, so I've got no insights. All I have is that Bullish just confirmed he was not forced to pick the last animal NP2. He purposefully picked his animal, but did not put in an action.

I would limit our pool today to Drafter2, Budda2, Bullish2, and Ford. This is more surface-level, but the fact that three of those people are replacements is telling. Mafia, in my experience, request replacements more than town, as the role is more demanding.
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Lucky_Luciano
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9/28/2014 10:00:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Living Players [FIXED]

1. Bossy
2. TUF
3. Trekie - Replaced by TGAP(2)
4. Budda(2)
5. Maikuru
6. Bullish(2)
7. Ford
8. Daltonian
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9/28/2014 10:02:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well, goddamn it.

If it matters (and it probably doesn't), TUF visited me.

I've been up much too late, and Timothy just had to post the new DP when I'm about to go to bed! I'll check in as soon as I can in the morning.
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Maikuru
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9/28/2014 10:04:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 10:02:00 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
Well, goddamn it.

If it matters (and it probably doesn't), TUF visited me.

I've been up much too late, and Timothy just had to post the new DP when I'm about to go to bed! I'll check in as soon as I can in the morning.

Before you go to bed, what results exactly did you get the night you were roleblocked?
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Maikuru
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9/28/2014 10:04:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:
My action failed.

Maikuru, why didn't you kill last night?

What do you mean by your action failed?
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9/28/2014 10:06:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 10:04:39 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:
My action failed.

Maikuru, why didn't you kill last night?

What do you mean by your action failed?

I was told my action failed. Likely roleblocked.
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9/28/2014 10:07:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:

You said in your long post that Bossy is a town read if priests can be roleblocked. I asked Lucky and he said they can.
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9/28/2014 10:09:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I probably don't need to say this but since we likely have 3 scum and day kills appear to be unstoppable, nobody should vote until we're ready to lynch someone. All it would take is one town vote and a coordinated scum team to end this.
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9/28/2014 10:11:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 10:07:37 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 9/28/2014 9:43:17 PM, Bullish wrote:

You said in your long post that Bossy is a town read if priests can be roleblocked. I asked Lucky and he said they can.

I just did too, you're right.
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9/28/2014 10:16:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
How are you guys enjoying your DP that does not have to be rebooted?
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9/28/2014 10:17:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm replacing trekie.

I'm bomb.

Since trike didn't kill anything NP2, I only just leveled up last night. I wasn't offered a choice, I got a static mod. I can give someone else the bomb role for that night and the following DP. It did so, but not saying who.

It's late and I need to reread DPs and catch up on Trekie's PMs.

I agree with Maikuru in not voting until we're sure.
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9/28/2014 10:17:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 10:09:51 PM, Maikuru wrote:
I probably don't need to say this but since we likely have 3 scum and day kills appear to be unstoppable, nobody should vote until we're ready to lynch someone. All it would take is one town vote and a coordinated scum team to end this.

Actually, this is wrong. It takes 5 to lynch, so my bad. it would take two townie votes.
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9/28/2014 10:20:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/28/2014 10:17:38 PM, TheGreatAndPowerful wrote:
I'm replacing trekie.

I'm bomb.

Since trike didn't kill anything NP2, I only just leveled up last night. I wasn't offered a choice, I got a static mod. I can give someone else the bomb role for that night and the following DP. It did so, but not saying who.

It's late and I need to reread DPs and catch up on Trekie's PMs.

I agree with Maikuru in not voting until we're sure.

That modification is delicious.
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9/28/2014 10:24:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
DEAD
Debatability - Roleblocker. - Town
Endarkened - Cop. - Town
Adam - Miller - Town
Bullish - Role Recycler - Town
Khaos - Cop - town
Drafter - Lynchproof - town
Budda - Watcher - Third Party

Living Players/Claimed
Bossy - Priest
TUF - Doc
Budda2 - Bulletproof
Maikuru - Vig
Bullish2 - Tracker
Ford - Super Saint
Drafter2 - Bomb

Unclaimed
Daltonian
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9/28/2014 11:15:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The bomb claim is bothering me. In addition to being another night-death activated ability, it doesn't seem to fit with the animal at all. Spider seems more fit to be another roleblocker (what with the webs n' all), and we know both bossy and bullish2 claim to have been roleblocked. I'm going through the animal claims and I can see a connection between the animal and the role with all of them...except maybe mongoose being a cop, except for the fact that they kill snakes.
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