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Beginners' Mafia 31.3: DP1

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10/26/2014 3:53:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
INTRODUCTION

The essence of DDO Mafia is the themed game. Almost all games on mafia are themed games. A themed game introduces new elements (and sometimes new mechanics) that add complexity and (hopefully) fun to the game.

In addition to an alignment and a role, players are also given characters that fit in with the theme. The roles almost (but not always or necessarily) fit with the character. This can be expressed in a number of ways. For example, if the theme is a TV show or movie, and your character is a cop, officer, or policeman, he might very will have the Mafia role of "Cop" due to the similarity in profession, if not function. Alternatively, if the character isn't such an occupation, but is otherwise good at discerning between good and evil, they might also be a "Cop" due to the similarity in function, if not profession.

Themes are limited only by the imagination. Most have to do with some form of media, such as TV shows, Literature, and Movies. Others are more abstract, like philosophies or politics. Literally anything can be a theme.

As said, themes add new elements to the game, which are summarized as follows:

1.Partial-claiming - Role-claiming can be dangerous for Townies to do, as it helps mafia decide who they need to kill. Instead of role-claiming, you can character claim. While your character may hint at your role, it is still safer than full claiming.

2. Fake-claiming - Mafia normally have to fake claim their roles when forced to claim in theme-less games. In themed games they also have to fake claim characters. Arguably this is more difficult. In role-claiming, they simply have to avoid being counter-claimed. In character claiming, they have to claim a character from the theme, is consistent with their role, and is major enough to be expected (though not all characters in the game will be major).

3. Patterns - Usually, there will be some distinguishing factor between the different factions. Normally this is a good vs. evil type discrimination, but not always. Remember, the Mafia start the game knowing 1/3rd of the role PMs, so have a head start in discerning any patterns and obfuscating Town's ability to also learn it.

4. Mod Psychology - Creating a themed game, including writing PMs, requires more input from the mod. Based on analysis of the game's creation, how the role PMs are written, and any patterns discovered, you can try and determine how the game was constructed in an effort to hunt for scum. However, this is more of an art than a science. Mistakes and deliberately traps created by the mod can hinder such an analysis. Trying to predict the mod's psychology is a double edged sword.

In this game, role were assigned randomly, but not randomly generated. In other words, I selected the roles (and tried to balance them) and then randomly assigned each player one of the roles I had pre-selected. Also, a complete list of possible roles can be found here: https://docs.google.com...

I think this game should yield some interesting insights into to my preferences. I'll leave my hint there. Good luck to everyone! Oh, and you can totally post your image(s) into the DP if you want.
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10/26/2014 3:54:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

JBB
Dalt (Cora)
Lannan
Rev
Debate
Linkish
Wylted
Yama
Budda
Endark
Vel

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 3:00pm, DDO time, on 10/28/14.


Good luck!
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10/26/2014 3:54:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
ATTENTION

Dalt is replacing in for Cora.
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10/26/2014 3:55:26 PM
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VTL Daltonian
For Claim.
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10/26/2014 3:59:15 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Dalt (1/6) - Lannan
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10/26/2014 3:59:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 3:55:26 PM, lannan13 wrote:
VTL Daltonian
For Claim.

why would you pressure dalt
we want to pressure the person who is the weakest and is most likely to slip
so vtl lannan for claim
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10/26/2014 3:59:45 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Dalt (1/6) - Lannan
Lannan (1/6) - Wylted
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10/26/2014 4:00:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VOTE COUNT

Dalt (1/6) - Lannan
Lannan (2/6) - Wylted, Debate
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10/26/2014 4:01:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
ATTENTION

And just for clarity's sake, you are permitted to post your image(s) into the DP if you want.
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10/26/2014 4:06:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 3:59:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
VTL Lannan for being Lannan.

I'm going to need a better reason than that.
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10/26/2014 4:07:46 PM
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At 10/26/2014 4:01:03 PM, bsh1 wrote:
ATTENTION

And just for clarity's sake, you are permitted to post your image(s) into the DP if you want.

if you cant confirm this, its fine
but must the image posts be the specific images that you sent us?
or do scum players have the option of finding images to correlate with their potential fake claim?
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10/26/2014 4:08:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 4:06:25 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 10/26/2014 3:59:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
VTL Lannan for being Lannan.

I'm going to need a better reason than that.

LOL that is a pretty sufficient reason IMO
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10/26/2014 4:09:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 4:07:46 PM, debatability wrote:
At 10/26/2014 4:01:03 PM, bsh1 wrote:
ATTENTION

And just for clarity's sake, you are permitted to post your image(s) into the DP if you want.

if you cant confirm this, its fine
but must the image posts be the specific images that you sent us?
or do scum players have the option of finding images to correlate with their potential fake claim?

You can post whatever image you want, including the actual one(s) you received.
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10/26/2014 4:12:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 4:10:39 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
How do we post our image?

Right click. Copy the link(s). Post the link(s) into the forum. The photo(s) itself won't appear, but you can post the link(s) so people can access it.
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10/26/2014 4:19:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
If the game relies on analysis of bsh's preferences -- as hinted -- then I think we should all post our images.

My role might be easily inferred from the title of my character's 'name', I don't know if this is true for anyone else.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com...

Also, VTL Lannan for claim.
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10/26/2014 4:24:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 4:10:21 PM, debatability wrote:
Post your image immediately, please, lizzypoo
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10/26/2014 4:25:43 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Dalt (1/6) - Lannan
Lannan (3/6) - Wylted, Debate, Dalt
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10/26/2014 4:34:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
This has me in a musical mood!
PA~RA~RI PA~RI PA~RI~PARI~
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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10/26/2014 4:35:10 PM
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I'm special and got two images.
http://thereadingdate.com... and http://1130thetiger.com...
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10/26/2014 5:04:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 4:25:25 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 10/26/2014 3:59:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
Post your image.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com...

Can we stop gaying up this thread now?
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10/26/2014 5:05:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 5:04:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 10/26/2014 4:25:25 PM, Daltonian wrote:
At 10/26/2014 3:59:01 PM, Wylted wrote:
Post your image.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com...

Can we stop gaying up this thread now?
Embrace the Tres Bien!
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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10/26/2014 5:19:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/26/2014 5:12:11 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Did scum-hunting really turn something pseudo-pornographic?

This isn't scum hunting anymore. We're having a hot guy contest, at this point.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW