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Beginner's Mafia 33.1: Endgame

Daltonian
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12/1/2014 11:41:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The mafia win!!

MAFIA
Carrie - You are the ROLE COP. Each night you may select a player. You will learn their role but not their affiliation.

Harder - You are the SCOUT. Each night you may select a player. You will learn who they visited that night.

Yama - You are the REDIRECTOR. Each night you may select a player and redirect their night action (if they have one) to another player of your choosing.

TOWN

Rev - You are the PRIEST. You will learn the roles, but not the names, of those who visit you at night. You win with the town.

Wylted - You are the ORACLE. Upon death, you may select a player an reveal their affiliation. You win with the town.

XLAV - You are the DOCTOR. Each night you may select a player and shield them from lethal actions. You win with the town.

MDTL - You are the ROLEBLOCKER. Each night you may select a player and prevent them from using their role. You win with the town.

Airmax - You are the SUPER SAINT. You will kill your hammerer. You win with the town.

Subutai - You are the PGO. Anyone who visits you at night will perish. You win with the town.

Honest - You are the HUNTER. Upon being lynched, you may select one other player to die with you. You win with the town.

ACTIONS

DP1
No Lynch

NP1
XLAV Doc Wylted
MDTL Waive

Carrie Role Cop Subutai
Harder Waive; NK XLAV
Yama Redirect Airmax to Wylted

DP2
Lynch MDTL

NP2
Harder Scout Rev
Yama Redirect Rev to himself
Yama NK Airmax

DP3
No Lynch

NP3
Harder NK Rev
Waive Actions

DP4
Lynch Honest
Harder Dies

NP4
Yama NK Wylted

Yama and Subutai are alive - Mafia win.

(JUNIOR) MOD COMMENTS
The town needs to pay more attention, especially in a LYLO situation. Sacrificing a townie for a scum is not feasible if the ratio is 3:2 and, by definition of the term, you MUST lynch scum and only scum to win.

Aside from that, good play on the most part all around.

33.2 will be up tonight or tomorrow, likely the latter.
F _ C K
All I need is "u", baby
1harderthanyouthink
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12/1/2014 11:47:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/1/2014 11:41:13 PM, Daltonian wrote:
(JUNIOR) MOD COMMENTS
The town needs to pay more attention, especially in a LYLO situation. Sacrificing a townie for a scum is not feasible if the ratio is 3:2 and, by definition of the term, you MUST lynch scum and only scum to win.
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

-Syd Barrett

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XLAV
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12/2/2014 1:11:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
This game was horribly inactive. Harder, again, was obvious scum, which is why I derailed Rev's lynch and VTL'd him. I couldn't redirect the lynch since we ran out of time.
Airmax was obvious town this game.

I can't remember my read on Yama.

Carrie gained a lot of town cred from that early role claim, so I missed him.

That LyLo situation was horrible town.
Khaos_Mage
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12/2/2014 3:07:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
DP3, Rev told you there was a redirector and a scout. Harder claimed Tracker.
This means one of three things:
1. Rev is lying
2. Harder is scout claiming tracker.
3. Harder is tracker, and scout is not claiming tracker (of course, at MYLO, why not, right?)

Here is the thing:
With a redirector AND PGO, at MYLO, you MUST lynch. Unless town knew that all remaining townies had passive roles (which was true), the redirector could get two kills in the night and win.

And, you don't lynch townies to nab scum unless the game would be over at LYLO. That move cost town the game. Had you lynched Harder outright, then you could have lynched Honest at LYLO (with three players) ensuring victory.
My work here is, finally, done.
YamaVonKarma
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12/2/2014 5:39:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
This game was cake, after I deduced XLAV was a Doctor.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
XLAV
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12/2/2014 5:43:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 5:39:01 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
This game was cake, after I deduced XLAV was a Doctor.

How did you know I was the doctor?
RevNge
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12/2/2014 6:04:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Y'all are idiots, except for the players that died before DP3.

I suppose I'm an idiot too for thinking Yama was Town.

Still, good job on your scum play. And for the record, I was against Honest's lynch since DP3... >.>
YamaVonKarma
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12/2/2014 10:35:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 5:43:42 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 12/2/2014 5:39:01 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
This game was cake, after I deduced XLAV was a Doctor.

How did you know I was the doctor?
I figured one of the riggers would have such a role. And you're a ringer. Even if I didn't suspect you as the Doctor, I would've had you killed. Simply because you're more of a threat than the others.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
XLAV
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12/2/2014 10:38:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 10:35:31 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/2/2014 5:43:42 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 12/2/2014 5:39:01 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
This game was cake, after I deduced XLAV was a Doctor.

How did you know I was the doctor?
I figured one of the riggers would have such a role. And you're a ringer. Even if I didn't suspect you as the Doctor, I would've had you killed. Simply because you're more of a threat than the others.

The roles were randomized. A ringer can get vanilla and a noob can get JOAT.
Khaos_Mage
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12/2/2014 10:51:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 6:04:40 AM, RevNge wrote:
Y'all are idiots, except for the players that died before DP3.

I suppose I'm an idiot too for thinking Yama was Town.

Still, good job on your scum play. And for the record, I was against Honest's lynch since DP3... >.>

They followed your stupid plan, mate.
Also, it was stupid to lynch MSOD (or whatever her name was), since a roleblocker MUST be town in this game. Negative utility or not, if confirmed, she is town, and not deserving of a lynch.
I was surprised mafia shot him.
My work here is, finally, done.
YamaVonKarma
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12/2/2014 11:45:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 10:52:01 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/2/2014 10:35:31 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:

Well played in the final DP.

*takes a bow* Dankeschon
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
Subutai
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12/2/2014 12:06:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Wtf Wylted and Honest? It was obviously LYLO. Killing one town for one mafia is not right in that situation (unless there's only one mafia). DP4 went so quickly I wasn't even able to respond.
I'm becoming less defined as days go by, fading away, and well you might say, I'm losing focus, kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself.
Daltonian
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12/2/2014 2:23:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The next game is going to be up shortly.

Note: the series will be slightly more rushed from this point forward due to the first game taking longer than usual.
F _ C K
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1harderthanyouthink
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12/2/2014 3:58:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 1:11:57 AM, XLAV wrote:
This game was horribly inactive. Harder, again, was obvious scum, which is why I derailed Rev's lynch and VTL'd him. I couldn't redirect the lynch since we ran out of time.

Your comments don't mean much to me. If I was that obvious I would've been lynched early in the game.
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

-Syd Barrett

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Wylted
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12/2/2014 4:33:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 12:06:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
Wtf Wylted and Honest? It was obviously LYLO. Killing one town for one mafia is not right in that situation (unless there's only one mafia). DP4 went so quickly I wasn't even able to respond.

I didn't do the math. I was thinking SOP at MYLO is to no lynch and thinking the whole time than lynching honest allowed us an extra mislynch if he was town. It didn't cross my mind that honest's lynch should have been at MYLO not Lylo.
XLAV
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12/2/2014 6:00:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/2/2014 3:58:56 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 12/2/2014 1:11:57 AM, XLAV wrote:
This game was horribly inactive. Harder, again, was obvious scum, which is why I derailed Rev's lynch and VTL'd him. I couldn't redirect the lynch since we ran out of time.

Your comments don't mean much to me. If I was that obvious I would've been lynched early in the game.

Well it should mean something to you. It means you should improve your scum play. Just because you weren't lynched early game doesn't mean you weren't obvious. I placed my vote on you at the last minute but we ran out of time. I used Rev as a behavior trap and you fell for it.