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Beginners' Mafia 34.1: DP1

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12/24/2014 6:11:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Introduction to Mafia:

Mafia is a game of strategy and behavioral analysis that pits an uninformed majority (The Town) against an informed minority (The Mafia). All members of the Mafia know who they are and - by process of elimination - know who the members of the Town are. The mafia have their own shared PM where they can coordinate and discuss strategies. No member of the Town is given information about any other player; they must figure that out through the course of the game.

The game is divided into Day Phases (DP) and Night Phases (NP). Each DP will be conducted in a public thread created by me (such as this one). I will start each DP with a summary of actions performed the previous NP, a list of living and dead players, and other rules and notes. The DP is used by all players for open deliberation and is the only normal mechanism by which members of the Town can communicate with each other. It is the primary vehicle by which the members of the Town can eliminate their opposition: The Mafia. However, the Mafia are covertly part of this deliberation, and will try to disrupt or derail the plans of the Town, though in a way as not to reveal their affiliation.

During the DP, each player may cast a vote to lynch another player. The format is VTL Player Name. Unbolded votes do not count. To remove your vote from a player, simply Unvote. Alternatively, you may vote that no player be lynched that day with a vote to no-lynch, or VTNL. If a majority of the living players vote to have another player lynched, or vote that no one should be lynched, the DP will end with the death of that player (if applicable) and the NP will begin.

The NP is where players can utilize the abilities of any role they have been given. These will be detailed in PMs I create for each player. In addition, the members of the Mafia can elect to kill another player during the Night. The NP ends when all players have submitted their actions.

The object of the game for each faction (Town, Mafia) is to eliminate the other faction. As a short-cut, when the Mafia make up 50% or more of the living players, the game will end automatically, since they will be able to control the vote during the DP and can no longer be eliminated (under most circumstances). However, there is no such short-cut for the Town, and they must eliminate each member of the Mafia.

Terms, acronyms, and abbreviations:

Alignment - your status as Town, Mafia, or 3rd Party (anything not Town or Mafia).
Bandwagon - A "wagon" consists of the individuals voting for a person. Bandwagoning usually refers to hopping on such a wagon blindly or without clearly articulating your reasons.
BP - Bulletproof, a person immune to night kills.
Buddying - A tactic by mafia where they agree with or support towns people in an attempt to look innocent in return.
Bussing - When the mafia allow, or help, get one of their own members lynched, in order to look innocent in return, or to avoid suspicion.
Claim - Either Character Claim or Role Claim. This is a request to reveal this part of your Role.
Counter Claim - In most cases, roles are unique per game. A counter-claim is when one person challenges another person's role-claim by claiming the same role.
Fake Claim - Since your character or role can be indicative of your alignment, mafioso's usually invent fake claims to avoid suspicion. Can also be done by Towns-persons trying to perform some sort of gambit.
FOS - Finger of suspicion. Indicates that you suspect someone of being mafia, but usually not enough to place a vote on them.
Hammer - Placing the last vote on someone to get them lynched.
JK - Jailkeeper, a combination of doctor and roleblocker.
LYLO - Lynch or Lose, a situation where the towns-people only outnumber the mafia by 1. Since the mafia gets a kill at night and this would tie them with the town and earn them a win, it is necessary for the town to lynch a mafia in this situation or they lose.
Mod-kill - You break my rules - I kill you. I will also retroactively convert you into a survivor such that you can't even claim a win with your original faction.
MYLO - Mislynch and Lose, a situation where the towns-people outnumber the mafia by 2. A mislynch gives the mafia a free kill which, when combined with the mafia night kill, allows the mafia to win. Barring irrefutable results, MYLO generally results in no lynch, which merely leads to LYLO.
NK - night kill, any kill performed at night, though usually refers to the mafia night kill.
PM - Private message. Players are only permitted to create or talk in Private Messages set up by the mod.
PR - Power Role, a role with some ability, either passive or active. Towns people without a power role are referred to as "Vanillas" while mafiosos without a power role are referred to as "Goons"
RVS - Random Voting Stage. When there is no information to go on, but you need to get the game moving, generally you'll pressure someone randomly.
Scum - Anyone that is not aligned with the town.
Scum-tell - some trait, or "tell" that indicates a person may be scum.
Soft-claim - dropping hints, but not out-right claiming, to be a specific character or role.
SK - Serial Killer, a third party, night killing role.
WIFOM - Wine In Front Of Me. A subtle and complex type of psychology. You know I want to poison you. I serve us both glasses of wine. You think the poison is in the glass in front of you, but you know I know that's what you'd think, and so you realize the poison is actually in my glass, and I'm just waiting for your to drink from it instead.

Rules:

1. The only PMs you are allowed to use to talk about this game with other players are the PMs that I have specifically created for that purpose. Do not discuss the game in hangouts or other forum threads either.
2. You may not cut-and-paste from any game PM into the DP thread. You must always paraphrase. Simply replacing the occasional word with a synonym is not acceptable.
3. Do not use PM content or structure to confirm affiliation.
4. Be active (submit any Night actions in a timely matter and participate in DP discussions). I will replace people at my discretion in response to low or no activity. I will prompt you if your activity is low.
5. Excessive trolling will not be tolerated.
6. Excessive swearing and poor conduct will not be tolerated.
7. Do not post in the group PM; it is just for announcements from me.
8. Excessively long twilight periods (3 hour max limit) will not be tolerated. People posting after that will be warned. Do not post after the DP ends (i.e. the FINAL TALLY is posted).
9. Do not throw the game for an opposing faction or actively try to inhibit your own team from winning.
10. DPs will last until a majority vote has been reached or 48 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, there will be no lynch.
11. NPs will last until everyone submits their night action or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. If the time-limit is reached, your action is forfeit.
12. Any DP or NP extensions will be announced by me in the DP thread; you may request extensions, but it is at my personal discretion whether to grant such requests.
13. All game related questions should be directed to me, via PM. You don't have to create a new PM, you may use your Role PM or mafia PM. If game related question are posted in the forum thread, please bold them.
14. Enforcement: Violations of rules 1, 2, and 3 will earn someone an automatic mod-kill. Violations of rules of rules 4 through 9 will result in warnings; you will receive 2 warnings and any further infractions thereafter will result in a mod-kill. Rules 8 through 12 are administrative, and are my responsibility as mod.
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12/24/2014 6:12:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Round 1:

This Round will introduce you to the concept and basics of Mafia, including Role Madness!

Set-Up:

The roles found in this game are from the following list and only from the following list:

Town Roles

Cop - Investigates Players' alignments
Dreamer - Learns players' alignments passively
Priest - Learns roles of players that visit him
Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Tracker - Learns who players visit
Watcher - Learns who visits a player
Oracle - Reveals a player's role upon death
Bodyguard - Redirects lethal actions to self
Bulletproof - Immune to night kills
Doctor - Prevents the deaths of players
Virgin - If lynched, prevents all deaths the following Night Phase
Bomb - If killed at night, kills his killer
Hunter - If lynched, may kill another player
Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone that visits him at night
Super Saint - If lynched, kills whoever placed the last vote
Vigilante - May kill another player at night
Universal Backup - Assumes the role of the first Town player to die
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Roleblocker - May prevent another player from using their role
Innocent Child - Mod confirmed as a Townie during a certain Day phase
Vanilla - Has no role
Pacifist - Cannot place votes on people at L-1
Aesthetic - Isn't affected by nonlethal actions
Sidekick - Can redirect nonlethal actions from one player to themselves

Mafia Roles

Role Cop - Learns players' roles
Suicide Bomber - May kill another player during the day, dying in the process
Mimic - May copy another player's role
Scout - Learns who players visit
Lookout - Learns who visits a player
Redirector - May redirect actions from one player to another
Role Stealer - May steal another player role. The new role is permanent.

Other

Additionally, there is a maximum of only one of each role. However, if a role shows up in both the town and mafia lists (e.g. mimic) there can be both a town mimic and a mafia mimic in the game, though not 2 town mimics or 2 mafia mimics. Also, no townie can have a mafia role, and vice versa.

Roles have been generated randomly, and have been randomly assigned.
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12/24/2014 6:14:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
LIVING PLAYERS

Yama
Harder
Wylted
Nivek
That1User
Khaos
Subutai
Ore_Ele
Headphonegut
Medic
Ashkan

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 7:00pm, DDO time, on 12/26/14.

Good luck!
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12/24/2014 6:20:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 6:16:39 PM, Wylted wrote:
In this thing like Robin. Fvck Batman

Ha! You're the first one of those I've seen in a while.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.
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12/24/2014 7:42:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At this point, if anyone has a "scummy" role (meaning a role that would sound bad to claim under pressure) they need to claim right away. We don't need to deal with any surprises later.
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12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.
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12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.
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12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.
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12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.
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"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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12/24/2014 8:13:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 7:42:08 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At this point, if anyone has a "scummy" role (meaning a role that would sound bad to claim under pressure) they need to claim right away. We don't need to deal with any surprises later.

I am Roleblocker
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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12/24/2014 8:15:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.

1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?

At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.

Unvote:person
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12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.
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12/24/2014 8:21:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:15:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.

1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
I will not allow joking votes. Simple.
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
True.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
How many games of mafia have you played?
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
Now this is WIFOM
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?
For me, it is a matter of policy. You placed your vote as a joke and I am not in the mood to see people joking with their weapons. In short, do not do it.
At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.
... You didn't read the rules, despite just being in a game where someone hammered a pacifist because they didn't read? Noted.
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12/24/2014 8:26:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:15:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.

1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?

At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.

Unvote:person
Vote:YamaVonKarma


1) A vote is a vote, whether it is serious or not.
2) The discussion could be continued without voting, such as asking how everyone's Christmas Eve is, claiming a role, getting more clarification of how to play, etc.
3)Scum telling is calling someone a scum, such as "This action is scummy" (meaning that it is behavior that is associated with the mafia) instead of voting. You could have stated that Ore_Ele's statement is scummy to spark a discussion.
4) Alternatives have been presented.
5) Yama was not trying to stifle the discussion, s/he was saying that voting is serious and thus should be taken seriously. Being too quick to voting is scummy, because mafia tend to get stressed if the day phase continues too long, because they are more likely to get caught the longer the day phase continues.

In conclusion, I understand why you voted so quickly, you should not be so quick to vote, otherwise people will think you are scummy. Instead, you should have scum telled. This mistake is known as a "slip", which is scummy behavior. Now you know your mistake, please learn from your mistake.
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12/24/2014 8:26:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

So.. I'm stifling a discussion by talking to you?
I'm done with this.
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12/24/2014 8:28:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

Stifiling the discussion? Most of this conversation has been about you and Yama. Your objective of starting a discussion has succeeded, with the help of Yama.
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12/24/2014 8:29:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:26:24 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

So.. I'm stifling a discussion by talking to you?
I'm done with this.
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Start. Making. Sense!

So, what do we discuss now?
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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12/24/2014 8:30:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:29:19 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:26:24 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

So.. I'm stifling a discussion by talking to you?
I'm done with this.
VTL Head
Start. Making. Sense!

So, what do we discuss now?

Poker, Christmas, I don't give a damn. Head is putting me in the same place I get with Adam2 in record speed.
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12/24/2014 8:32:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:21:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:15:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.

1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
I will not allow joking votes. Simple.
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
True.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
How many games of mafia have you played?
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
Now this is WIFOM
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?
For me, it is a matter of policy. You placed your vote as a joke and I am not in the mood to see people joking with their weapons. In short, do not do it.
At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.
... You didn't read the rules, despite just being in a game where someone hammered a pacifist because they didn't read? Noted.
Unvote:person
Vote:YamaVonKarma


I don't discuss ongoing games.
1.) Then every game you have with me is probably going to start like this.
C.) Are you going to explain scum telling?
4.) No it's speculation. I suspect you don't know how wifom works. I'll explain it: It's circular reasoning that happens when you try to say what happened with someone who fully knows that what they did would be met with a lolque?
5.) Refer to 1. It's a game no sense in not having fun when're possible.
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12/24/2014 8:35:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:26:24 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

So.. I'm stifling a discussion by talking to you?
I'm done with this.
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I clearly said - Calling my vote bad before anyone can comment on it.
So stifling discussion by posting a big no one comment on this. That is the discussion you stifled. Dat blatant OMGUS lol.
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12/24/2014 8:36:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:32:50 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:21:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:15:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.

1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
I will not allow joking votes. Simple.
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
True.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
How many games of mafia have you played?
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
Now this is WIFOM
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?
For me, it is a matter of policy. You placed your vote as a joke and I am not in the mood to see people joking with their weapons. In short, do not do it.
At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.
... You didn't read the rules, despite just being in a game where someone hammered a pacifist because they didn't read? Noted.
Unvote:person
Vote:YamaVonKarma


I don't discuss ongoing games.
1.) Then every game you have with me is probably going to start like this.
C.) Are you going to explain scum telling?
4.) No it's speculation. I suspect you don't know how wifom works. I'll explain it: It's circular reasoning that happens when you try to say what happened with someone who fully knows that what they did would be met with a lolque?
5.) Refer to 1. It's a game no sense in not having fun when're possible.

"A scumtell, strictly speaking, is an action that reveals a player to be scum. The term "tell" originates from card games such as poker, wherein players will subconsciously or involuntarily reveal how good their hand is and the other players can act accordingly.
In practice, "scumtell" is used to describe scummy actions; that is, actions that scum players are more likely to do in Town." -MafiaWiki (http://wiki.mafiascum.net...)
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R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
headphonegut
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12/24/2014 8:37:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:28:26 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

Stifiling the discussion? Most of this conversation has been about you and Yama. Your objective of starting a discussion has succeeded, with the help of Yama.

Not discussion the discussion that would have happened if he didn't comment on my vote saying no one pay any heed to it. bbs turkey in oven.
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YamaVonKarma
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12/24/2014 8:38:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:32:50 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:21:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
I will not allow joking votes. Simple.
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
True.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
How many games of mafia have you played?
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
Now this is WIFOM
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?
For me, it is a matter of policy. You placed your vote as a joke and I am not in the mood to see people joking with their weapons. In short, do not do it.
At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.
... You didn't read the rules, despite just being in a game where someone hammered a pacifist because they didn't read? Noted.
Unvote:person
Vote:YamaVonKarma


I don't discuss ongoing games.
1.) Then every game you have with me is probably going to start like this.
From now on, I'll associate your name with Acetaminophen.
C.) Are you going to explain scum telling?
Scum hunting is the process of finding mafia or a TP via analyzing what they do and say.
4.) No it's speculation. I suspect you don't know how wifom works. I'll explain it: It's circular reasoning that happens when you try to say what happened with someone who fully knows that what they did would be met with a lolque?
You're being selective in your knowledge about mafia. I don't like this one bit.
5.) Refer to 1. It's a game no sense in not having fun when're possible.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
headphonegut
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12/24/2014 8:39:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:36:15 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:32:50 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:21:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:15:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:07:34 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

Starting a discussion can be done in a different form than instant voting someone else. We need more town discussions in order to vote. At this phase, we are scumtelling, not voting, as it is too early to vote. If anything, you being so quick to vote makes you scummy. I suggest you slow down, and scum hunt instead of voting. Also you have to unvote your vote for Ore_Ele before you vote for Yama, per the rules.

1.) Do you think my vote serious on OreEle?
I will not allow joking votes. Simple.
2.) scum hunting requires discussion.
True.
C.) no idea what you mean by scum telling
How many games of mafia have you played?
4.) I think my way just got you posting instead of waiting for someone to say something. And for the record you can't proclaim an alternative without presenting it.
Now this is WIFOM
5.) How does it make me scummy voting for someone trying to stifle discussion?
For me, it is a matter of policy. You placed your vote as a joke and I am not in the mood to see people joking with their weapons. In short, do not do it.
At this phase we have nothing to go on, so if you find something, anything you latch onto that and ride it out of the early phase of the game.

Well at least one of us reads the rules.
... You didn't read the rules, despite just being in a game where someone hammered a pacifist because they didn't read? Noted.
Unvote:person
Vote:YamaVonKarma


I don't discuss ongoing games.
1.) Then every game you have with me is probably going to start like this.
C.) Are you going to explain scum telling?
4.) No it's speculation. I suspect you don't know how wifom works. I'll explain it: It's circular reasoning that happens when you try to say what happened with someone who fully knows that what they did would be met with a lolque?
5.) Refer to 1. It's a game no sense in not having fun when're possible.

"A scumtell, strictly speaking, is an action that reveals a player to be scum. The term "tell" originates from card games such as poker, wherein players will subconsciously or involuntarily reveal how good their hand is and the other players can act accordingly.
In practice, "scumtell" is used to describe scummy actions; that is, actions that scum players are more likely to do in Town." -MafiaWiki (http://wiki.mafiascum.net...)

oh was confused by the superlative thought it had a different meaning.
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YamaVonKarma
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12/24/2014 8:41:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/24/2014 8:37:54 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:28:26 PM, That1User wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:20:31 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:10:55 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:06:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 8:02:17 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:58:17 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:52:45 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:44:42 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/24/2014 7:38:44 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well let's get this going. I am getting ready for Christmas Eve dinner, so I'll do this one post then try to be on later.

Normally I would start with saying that we should focus on myself, Khaos, and Medic. Since we are the ringers, so one of us is probably mafia. So between Khaos and Medic, we have a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. However, the purpose of these games is not winning but learning. In which, it is better to let them live until a little later, watch and learn from them. We can then focus on them later in the game.

Vote: Ore_Ele For wanting people to learn the game obv scum.

Your vote is a weapon. Do not use it jokingly.

If this were towards the end of the dp I would agree.
What is there to go on in the beginning of the day? Being afraid to use your vote is worse than using it as a joke. We can see what people say or think about my vote including oreEle and get discussion going. Why are you afraid of discussion? This is more than I dared hope for.

Vote:YamaVonKarma

For being scared of me starting discussion.

This raises several questions:

1. Are you mafia?
2. Are you okay?

Trying to engage me in irrelevant discussion that is - wifom is not going to happen. We are not going to start chaos, but instead a discourse into logical reasons why you - Yama are scared of using your vote. And are wary of others who use theirs to attempt to start discussion.

*Sigh* Firstly, You need to unvote and then cast a vote on me. Secondly, you're not even using WIFOM right.

I'm never afraid using my vote. We're about to go there if you don't start making sense.

Already done! Cheers. Nice bait but I'm not gonna ask you -then what is wifom. Although that being said...

I am a simple person.
My logic is
1.) You attempted to stifle discussion by calling my vote bad before anyone could comment on it.
2.) You are most likely scum for not wanting discussion that progresses the game in any way.

Stifiling the discussion? Most of this conversation has been about you and Yama. Your objective of starting a discussion has succeeded, with the help of Yama.

Not discussion the discussion that would have happened if he didn't comment on my vote saying no one pay any heed to it. bbs turkey in oven.

Town don't lie, and this is a clear misinterpretation or lie. At no point in this game have I ordered a comment to be ignored.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW