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Beginners' Mafia 34.3: DP2

bsh1
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1/15/2015 8:46:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
LIVING PLAYERS

Yama
Harder
XLAV
Wylted
Nivek
That1User
ESocialBookworm
Khaos
Subutai
Ore_Ele
HPG
Medic
Ashkan
Rev

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
The DP will end at 9:00pm, DDO time, on 1/18/15.


Good luck!
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1/15/2015 8:46:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
And yes, this means no one died in the night.
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1/15/2015 8:50:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well then, hats off to the bodyguard/doctor. If you're a BP or something, hats off to you for making yourself look towny enough for Mafia to waste an NK. :P
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1/15/2015 8:52:52 PM
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This is great. My focus is still on Wylted, but before we dive into that, let's give people a chance to say if they have any results THAT ARE WORTH OUTING YOURSELVES OVER.
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1/15/2015 8:53:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Yay, no NK.

Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability.

Any results last night?
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1/15/2015 8:55:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Just saying- thank God if doc protected the hated/miller, because if they died at night, I'd have gotten their role. *phew*
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1/15/2015 9:05:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 8:53:21 PM, Wylted wrote:
Yay, no NK.

Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability.

Any results last night?

What are your reads?
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1/15/2015 9:13:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 9:05:10 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 1/15/2015 8:53:21 PM, Wylted wrote:
Yay, no NK.

Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability.

Any results last night?

What are your reads?

I see where this is going, lol.
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1/15/2015 9:15:07 PM
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Oh, here are some noob tips.

If you're a cop, and you got a townie result, don't out it. Just make him one of your strongest town read and give a good reason. If you die, then we will know that you cop'd that person.

If you got scum, then out! Out so we can kill him!
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1/15/2015 9:16:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 9:13:11 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 1/15/2015 9:05:10 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 1/15/2015 8:53:21 PM, Wylted wrote:
Yay, no NK.

Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability.

Any results last night?

What are your reads?

I see where this is going, lol.

You're Geordi, you see nothing, lol.
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1/15/2015 9:55:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 9:50:49 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well don't all everyone begin posting at once.

Lol...
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1/15/2015 10:08:19 PM
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Lynching an inactive isn't going to do anything positive for town. If he's inactive for even a few days, he'll be replaced, and missing one NP of that role is better than eliminating it all together, especially if it's something like a cop or doctor. It will be positive for mafia, however. They'll have a one less townie to deal with (even if the player is inactive for the entirety of the game, that's still one more townie, which means be an additional DP to scum hunt), and they may eliminate an important role. Between Wylted's statement regarding inactives this DP and his behavior in the last one:

VTL Wylted
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1/15/2015 10:17:12 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Wylted (1/8) - Subutai
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1/15/2015 10:29:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 10:08:19 PM, Subutai wrote:
Lynching an inactive isn't going to do anything positive for town. If he's inactive for even a few days, he'll be replaced, and missing one NP of that role is better than eliminating it all together, especially if it's something like a cop or doctor. It will be positive for mafia, however. They'll have a one less townie to deal with (even if the player is inactive for the entirety of the game, that's still one more townie, which means be an additional DP to scum hunt), and they may eliminate an important role. Between Wylted's statement regarding inactives this DP and his behavior in the last one:

VTL Wylted

What are your thoughts on some other players?
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1/15/2015 10:36:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 9:16:17 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 1/15/2015 9:13:11 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 1/15/2015 9:05:10 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 1/15/2015 8:53:21 PM, Wylted wrote:
Yay, no NK.

Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability.

Any results last night?

What are your reads?

I see where this is going, lol.

You're Geordi, you see nothing, lol.

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1/16/2015 12:20:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Wylted for the same reasons given last DP. Also for the slip that he made last DP (page 3, I believe). He was originally for pressuring inactives to get their claims, saying "Mafia like to keep Inactives alive for easy mislynches. It's why we need their claims early."

Now he is saying "Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability."

It does not get much worse than that. Also, I REALLY want Khaos to give his reads and encourage all players to look over the first two games and see how people played in relation to what their affiliation was. I would also recommend looking over the Star Wars game (if you are in for a long read, but this might just be for those that were part of it and remember it still) and any other past and historical games.

This is called "meta-analysis," finding how people play as certain affiliations and compare to how they are playing now. I will not yet offer my analysis yet, just so new members can try it out without just copying it.
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1/16/2015 12:22:06 AM
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VOTE COUNT

Wylted (2/8) - Subutai, Ore
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1/16/2015 1:48:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 9:15:07 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oh, here are some noob tips.

If you're a cop, and you got a townie result, don't out it. Just make him one of your strongest town read and give a good reason. If you die, then we will know that you cop'd that person.

If you got scum, then out! Out so we can kill him!

Okay ;)
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1/16/2015 1:52:34 AM
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Inactivity is annoying...
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1/16/2015 2:00:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I have an ideal guys. Let's keep the Inactives and the hated alive until the endgame.

Let's incentivize the scum team to lay low by ignoring Inactives and not getting their claims on DP1-1 and then let's not even lynch them on what's basically a 2nd DP1.

I understand not lynching the hated because Esocial is a slight town read but there is no excuse not to do the next utility lynch.

I vote for HPG, since he literally came on to only mention he was being inactive.

VTL HPG

I mean Jesus Christ, who cares if I'm scum. Honestly, if I'm scum there are other scum besides me. Why have tunnel vision. Khaos is the only person exploring multiple theories from what I've seen.
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1/16/2015 2:30:26 AM
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At 1/16/2015 1:52:34 AM, bsh1 wrote:
Inactivity is annoying...

Sorry, I was lurking.
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1/16/2015 3:33:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 8:53:21 PM, Wylted wrote:
Yay, no NK.

Let's kill an inactive. Even if it's a mislynch we won't lose their ability.

Any results last night?

This post is bothersome. Your main focus seems to be on wanting to kill someone. You advocate for killing an inactive right off the bat, before waiting to see if any results are revealed. Results seem to be just an afterthought for you. I'm not sure how that can be read as anything but scummy.
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1/16/2015 3:47:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/15/2015 9:15:07 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oh, here are some noob tips.

If you're a cop, and you got a townie result, don't out it. Just make him one of your strongest town read and give a good reason. If you die, then we will know that you cop'd that person.

If you got scum, then out! Out so we can kill him!

No, don't just automatically out your role just because you think you caught scum. Try to get the person lynched first for some other reason, like whatever made you suspect them in the first place. If you can't get them lynched, then it's ok to out your role, but try to lynch them while keeping your role hidden first.

I wish I knew your playstyle a little better. This could easily be read as subtle scumminess, trying to get inexperienced players to out their roles prematurely. IGMEOY.
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1/16/2015 3:55:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2015 3:47:55 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 1/15/2015 9:15:07 PM, XLAV wrote:
Oh, here are some noob tips.

If you're a cop, and you got a townie result, don't out it. Just make him one of your strongest town read and give a good reason. If you die, then we will know that you cop'd that person.

If you got scum, then out! Out so we can kill him!

No, don't just automatically out your role just because you think you caught scum. Try to get the person lynched first for some other reason, like whatever made you suspect them in the first place. If you can't get them lynched, then it's ok to out your role, but try to lynch them while keeping your role hidden first.

I wish I knew your playstyle a little better. This could easily be read as subtle scumminess, trying to get inexperienced players to out their roles prematurely. IGMEOY.

Lol
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1/16/2015 3:56:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/16/2015 1:52:34 AM, bsh1 wrote:
Inactivity is annoying...

I think we need a replacement for Nivek, he hasn't even logged on to the site for over a week.