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2/3/2015 7:46:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Graveyard:

danielle/Fourtrouble- Rupert Devereaux - 1x Governor- Town (killed NP1)

Bullish (replacing Beginner)- Golem- Janitor- Town (Lynched DP2)

EndarkendRationalist- Mr. T.E. Pennyfeather- 2x Mason recruiter- Town (Killed NP2)

Yama- 3rd party survivor (Previously Farquarl, the Doctor) (Mod-killed DP2)

Raisor- Bartimaeus- Investigative JOAT- Town (Killed NP3)

HPG- Simkin- Goon- Mafia (lynched DP3)

RevNge- You are Mrs. Underwood, a voice of reason, with a kind heart. You were always there for young Nathaniel, and acted as a motherly figure to him when he felt he had no one else. Next to Mrs. Lutyens, you are Nathaniel's greatest memory of sincerity. You are a vanilla, and can make a difference with your voice and your vote. You win with the town. (lynched DP4)

FourTrouble- You are Jakob Hyrnek, a commoner, and once Kitty"s closest friend. When you were hit by a Black Tumbler, you lost many physical abilities and suffered permanent damage to your face. Your condition renders you almost useless, making you a vanilla townie. Use your voice and your vote to make a difference, even if that difference is messing with Julius Tallow"s spell book, which causes him to turn himself a horrible yellow color and later get devoured by a djinni through a mis-summons. You win with the town. (Killed NP4)

Living Players:

1. Ford
2. Medic
3. XLAV
4. Raisor2
5. bsh1
6. Khaos

With 6 players alive, it takes 4/6 votes to lynch. DP ends in 72 hours.
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2/3/2015 9:55:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 9:53:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/3/2015 9:16:09 AM, KhaosMage wrote:
Unvote

Maybe not ford.
Hmmmm....

Who? Make up your mind!

Offer your own damn input!!!
Why in the hell would you even listen to me?
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2/3/2015 9:55:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 9:55:04 AM, KhaosMage wrote:
At 2/3/2015 9:53:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 2/3/2015 9:16:09 AM, KhaosMage wrote:
Unvote

Maybe not ford.
Hmmmm....

Who? Make up your mind!

Offer your own damn input!!!
I will, later.
Why in the hell would you even listen to me?
Because I want to.
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2/3/2015 11:46:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 11:29:01 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
I was looking for the voice and vote part, which Rev had. So fvck off Khaos. I could have confirmed him town.

My criticism stands, as it requires you to make assumptions.
In this case, you did not ask for voice and vote part (you asked about capitalization), and you assume that his partners, if mafia, couldn't have provided that text.
You assume his PM included that text.
You assume Rev is competent enough to answer your cryptic question correctly.
It's overconfidence in Boy Bands all over again.

And, again, an anti-game who to scum hunt. I can see why you like XLAV.
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2/3/2015 11:47:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 11:32:46 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
And note Rev's vanilla wasn't capitalized. Fvck Rev too! Dunno how hard it is to replace out if you won't play a game...

fix'd and +1
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2/3/2015 11:55:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
So, there are commoners, demons, other, and magicians.
Most likely, there are two scum left, if not two mafia and a scum.
14 players - 4 mafia or 3 mafia + 1 TP, maybe 4 mafia and 1 TP

There is already a dead "other" and a dead demon.
I am certain one scum is a magician, and I doubt the other is a commoner.

The goon makes me believe ford's claim, but his play is too aloof for me to trust him.
I do not fully trust XLAV, but, if no one else cares to suspect him, I'll leave it and use it.
If XLAV is town, then that is few investigations, which, in a game of this size, makes sense. Further, Aura Cop has no real purpose, except for one.....and I won't say it :P
Aura Cop is likely scum sided.

However, if Aura Cop is town, then I don't see the value of XLAV's role, TBH.

Can anyone remind me why I was second guessing bsh1?
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2/3/2015 12:32:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 11:55:54 AM, KhaosMage wrote:
So, there are commoners, demons, other, and magicians.
Most likely, there are two scum left, if not two mafia and a scum.
14 players - 4 mafia or 3 mafia + 1 TP, maybe 4 mafia and 1 TP

I'm on my phone so I can't type long posts, but I have some questions:

There is already a dead "other" and a dead demon.
I am certain one scum is a magician, and I doubt the other is a commoner.

Why?

I do not fully trust XLAV, but, if no one else cares to suspect him, I'll leave it and use it.

Why do you suspect XLAV?

Further, Aura Cop has no real purpose, except for one.....and I won't say it :P
Aura Cop is likely scum sided.

Why?

However, if Aura Cop is town, then I don't see the value of XLAV's role, TBH.

Why?

Sorry if I sound like one of those annoying toddlers saying "why" in infinite regress, but I am trying to understand where you're coming from and what your thought prices is.
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2/3/2015 12:37:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:32:46 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/3/2015 11:55:54 AM, KhaosMage wrote:
So, there are commoners, demons, other, and magicians.
Most likely, there are two scum left, if not two mafia and a scum.
14 players - 4 mafia or 3 mafia + 1 TP, maybe 4 mafia and 1 TP

I'm on my phone so I can't type long posts, but I have some questions:

There is already a dead "other" and a dead demon.
I am certain one scum is a magician, and I doubt the other is a commoner.

Why?
Aren't the mafia the ruling class?

I do not fully trust XLAV, but, if no one else cares to suspect him, I'll leave it and use it.

Why do you suspect XLAV?
Because he's a douche.
Largely inactive, his role is not very convincing, repeating same mistakes of the past, and not copping Rev.

Further, Aura Cop has no real purpose, except for one.....and I won't say it :P
Aura Cop is likely scum sided.

Why?
Sounds like role cop/character cop. It is a useless role as town, since mafia are likely to claim their class. (except maybe Bullish)

However, if Aura Cop is town, then I don't see the value of XLAV's role, TBH.

Why?
Investigation roles a plenty.

Sorry if I sound like one of those annoying toddlers saying "why" in infinite regress, but I am trying to understand where you're coming from and what your thought prices is.
I'm trying to remember my thought price as we speak. LOL
I remember town reading you for the most part, but last DP, I started to shift. Why was that?
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2/3/2015 12:47:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:37:52 PM, KhaosMage wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:32:46 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/3/2015 11:55:54 AM, KhaosMage wrote:
So, there are commoners, demons, other, and magicians.
Most likely, there are two scum left, if not two mafia and a scum.
14 players - 4 mafia or 3 mafia + 1 TP, maybe 4 mafia and 1 TP

I'm on my phone so I can't type long posts, but I have some questions:

There is already a dead "other" and a dead demon.
I am certain one scum is a magician, and I doubt the other is a commoner.

Why?
Aren't the mafia the ruling class?

Then why is the Prime Minister town? I think this has less to do with class, and more to do with affiliation (pun intended.) Town seems to be good guys or not-so-bad bad guys, and mafia seems to be the main antagonists or people/things Bartimaeus dislikes. We need to view things from Bartimeaus's POV...after all, this is his mafia game.

I do not fully trust XLAV, but, if no one else cares to suspect him, I'll leave it and use it.

Why do you suspect XLAV?
Because he's a douche.

Lol...

Largely inactive, his role is not very convincing, repeating same mistakes of the past, and not copping Rev.

Ah, okay.

Further, Aura Cop has no real purpose, except for one.....and I won't say it :P
Aura Cop is likely scum sided.

Why?
Sounds like role cop/character cop. It is a useless role as town, since mafia are likely to claim their class. (except maybe Bullish)

Okay, that makes some sense.

However, if Aura Cop is town, then I don't see the value of XLAV's role, TBH.

Why?
Investigation roles a plenty.

Okay. Agreed.

Sorry if I sound like one of those annoying toddlers saying "why" in infinite regress, but I am trying to understand where you're coming from and what your thought prices is.
I'm trying to remember my thought price as we speak. LOL

Rofl...autocorrect sucks, lol...

I remember town reading you for the most part, but last DP, I started to shift. Why was that?

IDK, lol. I need to brush up on last DP, too--it feels like it's been awhile. If I find out why you were suspicious of me, though, I'll let you know, lol ;) Also, excluding yourself, is there anyone you townread?
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2/3/2015 12:52:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:50:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Bsh who did you motivate?

Raisor suggested last DP that I motivate FT. I did...That admittedly leaves my role unconfirmed.
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2/3/2015 12:54:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:47:35 PM, Raisor wrote:
TUF said DP1 there were no TP

He did. Khakis is just being himself...it's actually kinda cute...

My results haven't come in from TUF. I watched medic so ill let you guys know ASAP.

Sweet.
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2/3/2015 12:55:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:47:09 PM, bsh1 wrote:

IDK, lol. I need to brush up on last DP, too--it feels like it's been awhile. If I find out why you were suspicious of me, though, I'll let you know, lol ;) Also, excluding yourself, is there anyone you townread?

Not really.
Medic by behavior, though not by role.
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2/3/2015 12:59:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:55:51 PM, KhaosMage wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:47:09 PM, bsh1 wrote:

IDK, lol. I need to brush up on last DP, too--it feels like it's been awhile. If I find out why you were suspicious of me, though, I'll let you know, lol ;) Also, excluding yourself, is there anyone you townread?

Not really.
Medic by behavior, though not by role.

Ummmm...why Medic of all people?
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2/3/2015 1:03:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:52:40 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:50:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Bsh who did you motivate?

Raisor suggested last DP that I motivate FT. I did...That admittedly leaves my role unconfirmed.

What do you make of FTs flip? He was just a vanilla all along? Or TUF didn't reveal his compensated ability?
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2/3/2015 1:07:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 1:03:10 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:52:40 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:50:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Bsh who did you motivate?

Raisor suggested last DP that I motivate FT. I did...That admittedly leaves my role unconfirmed.

What do you make of FTs flip? He was just a vanilla all along? Or TUF didn't reveal his compensated ability?

I have literally no clue. I think it is most likely that TUF just didn't reveal his protective power, since I cannot fathom a reason for FT to lie about it. One thing it does tell us is that no one else has a protective power, as no one CC'd FT's claim. It is remotely possible (I guess) that FT lied, though, again, I doubt he did, and that mafia was handicapped in some way instead, or TUF took some other measure to compensate town.
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2/3/2015 1:07:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
@Ford - what do you make of the flip?
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2/3/2015 1:11:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 1:07:30 PM, bsh1 wrote:
@Ford - what do you make of the flip?

Im awaiting a response from TUF about that situation. If ft did have a protective Role, why do you think he didn't doc himself and one other person last night?
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2/3/2015 1:13:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/3/2015 12:47:35 PM, Raisor wrote:
TUF said DP1 there were no TP

My results haven't come in from TUF. I watched medic so ill let you guys know ASAP.

You mean to tell me TUF put up the DP before giving you your result? I find this hard to believe
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2/3/2015 1:17:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It should be obvious that one of the following occurred:
1. TUF C/P'd FT's role from FT's PM, and forgot the added modifier.
2. FT only had a 1x modifier, that wasn't part of his role. Like, "hey, FT, why not chose someone to protect tonight?", and thus, he is still a vanilla.

Kind of like in my first game modding, I gave the scum factions a free role cop, since I accidentally confirmed a player as town.