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bsh1
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2/23/2015 7:26:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
DIED IN THE NIGHT

Lannan - You are POPULAR. It takes 1 extra vote to lynch you. You win with the town.

LIVING PLAYERS

Medic
Ash
Ore
Harder
Yama
Bhu
Khaos
HPG
7th

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 7:00pm, DDO time, on 2/25/15.


Good luck!
Live Long and Prosper

I'm a Bish.


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2/23/2015 7:31:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
VOTE COUNT

HPG (1/5) - Yama
Live Long and Prosper

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2/23/2015 7:50:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
so many posts checking in. Gonna catch up later kappa. <:^)
crying to soldiers coming home to their dogs why do I torment myself with these videos?
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2/23/2015 8:01:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG
wait a goddamn minute here.
VTL medic
I think I know why Yama is voting me (not game related). And I really am not interested in what "post" you disliked, because if there was one you'd put it up since linking isn't that hard and the DP wasn't that long.
You know I don't like claiming and also know that I'd rather die than claim as has been seen by everyone. It's no secret that I dislike claiming so why not go after others and when satisfied just get everyone to lynch me since I'm so antitown, and annoying it wouldn't be that hard a sell. You think I'm just gonna roll over and let this happen? Uh uh fvck that. You have a huge azz battle in front of you and boy will there be walls you fvcker up thinking I'm just gonna be myself and get myself lynched. I'm not accepting any lynch today besides medic or me. Meta can fvck all. And if I'm lynches fvckin meh it was bound to happen anyways. I have no problem dying if people can see this situation and look closer at you medic.
crying to soldiers coming home to their dogs why do I torment myself with these videos?
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2/23/2015 8:04:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG

He raises a valid point.
Why did you not quote the post? After all, I don't know what you are talking about.
My work here is, finally, done.
medic0506
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2/23/2015 8:04:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:01:21 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG
wait a goddamn minute here.
VTL medic
I think I know why Yama is voting me (not game related). And I really am not interested in what "post" you disliked, because if there was one you'd put it up since linking isn't that hard and the DP wasn't that long.
You know I don't like claiming and also know that I'd rather die than claim as has been seen by everyone. It's no secret that I dislike claiming so why not go after others and when satisfied just get everyone to lynch me since I'm so antitown, and annoying it wouldn't be that hard a sell. You think I'm just gonna roll over and let this happen? Uh uh fvck that. You have a huge azz battle in front of you and boy will there be walls you fvcker up thinking I'm just gonna be myself and get myself lynched. I'm not accepting any lynch today besides medic or me. Meta can fvck all. And if I'm lynches fvckin meh it was bound to happen anyways. I have no problem dying if people can see this situation and look closer at you medic.

Talk about an omgus vote...lol... Ok, I'll let you die to protect your role, if you like.
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2/23/2015 8:06:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:04:18 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG

He raises a valid point.
Why did you not quote the post? After all, I don't know what you are talking about.

I responded to it, and criticized it last DP, right after he made it.
Khaos_Mage
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2/23/2015 8:06:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 7:54:53 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
How are my fellow town folk?

I'm fine. You?
Any thoughts as to who is scum?
Did you use your role wisely?
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/23/2015 8:07:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:06:05 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:04:18 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG

He raises a valid point.
Why did you not quote the post? After all, I don't know what you are talking about.

I responded to it, and criticized it last DP, right after he made it.

I figured as much, and frankly I don't care.
My work here is, finally, done.
Khaos_Mage
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2/23/2015 8:08:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
So, it appears Lannan was killed most likely because he was confirmed town. Confirmed townies cannot be mislynched, so they are a threat to scum.

This begs the question: why was there no doctor or watcher on him?
Are they not in the game?
My work here is, finally, done.
2001bhu
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2/23/2015 8:09:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:06:37 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:54:53 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
How are my fellow town folk?

I'm fine. You?
Any thoughts as to who is scum?
Did you use your role wisely?

I'm pretty sure I did And you?
Khaos_Mage
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2/23/2015 8:10:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:09:33 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:06:37 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:54:53 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
How are my fellow town folk?

I'm fine. You?
Any thoughts as to who is scum?
Did you use your role wisely?

I'm pretty sure I did And you?

Care to elaborate?
And, I never use my role wisely LOL
My work here is, finally, done.
2001bhu
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2/23/2015 8:11:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:10:21 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:09:33 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:06:37 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:54:53 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
How are my fellow town folk?

I'm fine. You?
Any thoughts as to who is scum?
Did you use your role wisely?

I'm pretty sure I did And you?

Care to elaborate?
And, I never use my role wisely LOL

Not rellely if i do scum may target me...
nice
medic0506
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2/23/2015 8:13:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:01:21 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG
wait a goddamn minute here.
VTL medic
I think I know why Yama is voting me (not game related). And I really am not interested in what "post" you disliked, because if there was one you'd put it up since linking isn't that hard and the DP wasn't that long.
You know I don't like claiming and also know that I'd rather die than claim as has been seen by everyone. It's no secret that I dislike claiming so why not go after others and when satisfied just get everyone to lynch me since I'm so antitown, and annoying it wouldn't be that hard a sell. You think I'm just gonna roll over and let this happen? Uh uh fvck that. You have a huge azz battle in front of you and boy will there be walls you fvcker up thinking I'm just gonna be myself and get myself lynched. I'm not accepting any lynch today besides medic or me. Meta can fvck all. And if I'm lynches fvckin meh it was bound to happen anyways. I have no problem dying if people can see this situation and look closer at you medic.

I don't care if you claim or not because I'm in it for your lynch anyway because you're not town. Only thing that will change my vote is a cop guilty on someone, then I'll come back for you some other DP, assuming I'm alive.
Khaos_Mage
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2/23/2015 8:15:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:11:28 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:10:21 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:09:33 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:06:37 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:54:53 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
How are my fellow town folk?

I'm fine. You?
Any thoughts as to who is scum?
Did you use your role wisely?

I'm pretty sure I did And you?

Care to elaborate?
And, I never use my role wisely LOL

Not rellely if i do scum may target me...
nice

True, they might. They also may target you regardless ;)
What you need to do know is decide what course of action is best for the town. Our goal is to lynch scum, and if you have information that is useful, you need to decide if putting yourself as a target is worth it.
For example, if you are a cop and got a guilty result on a player, that is useful and should be disclosed. However, if you got an innocent on a player, that is not really worth it at this point in time, as it hurts your chances of finding scum via your role because you will likely be targeted in some way (with a mafia role or death).

The choice is yours to make, but remember we are a team. Even if you are dead, you still win if your team wins. So, make the best decisions possible.
My work here is, finally, done.
Ore_Ele
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2/23/2015 8:19:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:04:18 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG

He raises a valid point.
Why did you not quote the post? After all, I don't know what you are talking about.

I presume it was this exchange at the end of page 2 and beginning of page 3.

http://www.debate.org...

HPG never came back in after that. I didn't really read into that post at the time, since I was only focusing on proving the Lannan role. But I did mention that bhu2001, while if scum, may be easy to break under pressure, would also likely give a false positive if town. And for that reason, we should lay off him at least for the first DP. He would be an instant target for mafia to try and mislynch, though I would have expected them to save him for a mislynch later in the game. At the vary least, getting a claim from someone that barely participated is beneficial.
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2/23/2015 8:19:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Another example of useful information is if your action failed, or if you are doctor and protected Lannan, it's odd that he died, so mafia have a strongman or redirector. This latter means we cannot trust our results, while the former means role might not work.

You have to decide what information is best to disclose, and how you want to disclose it.
The same would go if you wanted to claim your role right now. It is for you to decide.
My work here is, finally, done.
2001bhu
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2/23/2015 8:19:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:15:59 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:11:28 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:10:21 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:09:33 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:06:37 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:54:53 PM, 2001bhu wrote:
How are my fellow town folk?

I'm fine. You?
Any thoughts as to who is scum?
Did you use your role wisely?

I'm pretty sure I did And you?

Care to elaborate?
And, I never use my role wisely LOL

Not rellely if i do scum may target me...
nice

True, they might. They also may target you regardless ;)
What you need to do know is decide what course of action is best for the town. Our goal is to lynch scum, and if you have information that is useful, you need to decide if putting yourself as a target is worth it.
For example, if you are a cop and got a guilty result on a player, that is useful and should be disclosed. However, if you got an innocent on a player, that is not really worth it at this point in time, as it hurts your chances of finding scum via your role because you will likely be targeted in some way (with a mafia role or death).

The choice is yours to make, but remember we are a team. Even if you are dead, you still win if your team wins. So, make the best decisions possible.

I am new I will talk it over with bsh1 in my PM I will hopefully win the game for our team.
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2/23/2015 8:20:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:19:24 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:04:18 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 2/23/2015 7:50:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
I agree with Yama, I really didn't like that post from HPG last dp so I'd like to get his claim as well.

VTL HPG

He raises a valid point.
Why did you not quote the post? After all, I don't know what you are talking about.

I presume it was this exchange at the end of page 2 and beginning of page 3.

http://www.debate.org...

HPG never came back in after that. I didn't really read into that post at the time, since I was only focusing on proving the Lannan role. But I did mention that bhu2001, while if scum, may be easy to break under pressure, would also likely give a false positive if town. And for that reason, we should lay off him at least for the first DP. He would be an instant target for mafia to try and mislynch, though I would have expected them to save him for a mislynch later in the game. At the vary least, getting a claim from someone that barely participated is beneficial.

forgot to actually case the vote. VTL HPG
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2/23/2015 8:22:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Who thinks btu is TP?
I'm thinking survivor. Let's not lynch him today, as survivors (usually with bsh1) are joint win.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/23/2015 8:24:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Well, HPG, you are at L-1. Start talking sense or say hello to the gallows.
I will not be removing my vote, and if you are town and lynched, it is LYLO.
My work here is, finally, done.
YamaVonKarma
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2/23/2015 8:26:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:24:13 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Well, HPG, you are at L-1. Start talking sense or say hello to the gallows.
I will not be removing my vote, and if you are town and lynched, it is LYLO.

Do you really think he cares?
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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2/23/2015 8:27:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/23/2015 8:26:04 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 2/23/2015 8:24:13 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Well, HPG, you are at L-1. Start talking sense or say hello to the gallows.
I will not be removing my vote, and if you are town and lynched, it is LYLO.

Do you really think he cares?

Nope, and that's why I want him out of the beginner series.
I tolerate more in real games, but he is wearing thin.
My work here is, finally, done.
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2/23/2015 8:27:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm not a wuss (check my sig).
I his next post isn't a claim, my vote goes back.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW