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4/1/2015 7:49:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
LYNCHED LAST DP

Bhu - You are ENVER PASHA. You are the genocidaire no one has heard of. Thus, you are VANILLA. You have no role. You win with the town.

DIED IN THE NIGHT

Harder - You are AUGUSTO PINOCHET. Because you and your cronies are obsessed with identifying those who might oppose you so that they can be "disappeared," you are the COP. Each night you may select a player and learn their affiliation. You win with the town.

GRAVEYARD

Skep - Town
Bhu - Town
Harder - Town

LIVING PLAYERS

Molon
Saph
ash
316
Val
Shadow
Yama

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 8:00pm, DDO time, on 4/3/15.


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4/1/2015 8:44:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
1. I lied to get Bhu lynched
2. I tried to Cop Molon and failed
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4/1/2015 8:56:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 8:44:08 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
1. I lied to get Bhu lynched
2. I tried to Cop Molon and failed

Why?
I don't think you should of outed that.
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4/1/2015 8:57:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 8:56:41 PM, ashkan wrote:
At 4/1/2015 8:44:08 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
1. I lied to get Bhu lynched
2. I tried to Cop Molon and failed

Why?
I don't think you should of outed that.

I outed it because I fully expect to be lynched.
I'm the poster child of the Lynch All Liars movement, after all.
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4/1/2015 9:06:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 8:57:34 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 4/1/2015 8:56:41 PM, ashkan wrote:
At 4/1/2015 8:44:08 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
1. I lied to get Bhu lynched
2. I tried to Cop Molon and failed

Why?
I don't think you should of outed that.

I outed it because I fully expect to be lynched.
I'm the poster child of the Lynch All Liars movement, after all.

Lynch all liars, indeed...that's 3 townies dead at this point.
VTL yama
Are you actually a cop? Or did you only lie about getting a guilty on bhu? The truth, now.
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4/1/2015 9:11:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
VOTE COUNT

Yama (1/4) - Saph
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4/1/2015 9:12:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
@yama, also why bhu? And is it possible to have 2 cops?
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4/1/2015 9:14:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:12:15 PM, Sapphique wrote:
@yama, also why bhu? And is it possible to have 2 cops?
Why Bhu? Because I believe he deserves to be banished from mafia in general and he is my only current policy lynch. Regardless of his alignment, I'll gladly have him lynched and step on his grave.

So you're the role cop?
Out your targets mafioso.
VTL Sap
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4/1/2015 9:17:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:14:38 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:12:15 PM, Sapphique wrote:
@yama, also why bhu? And is it possible to have 2 cops?
Why Bhu? Because I believe he deserves to be banished from mafia in general and he is my only current policy lynch. Regardless of his alignment, I'll gladly have him lynched and step on his grave.

So you're the role cop?
Out your targets mafioso.
VTL Sap

No, I asked that because harder was a cop as well (see the OP). So I was wondering if it was possible to have 2 cops, since you claimed cop as well. Hence my previous question: were you lying about being a cop or only lying about getting a guilty on bhu?
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4/1/2015 9:19:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 7:49:35 PM, bsh1 wrote:
DIED IN THE NIGHT

Harder - You are AUGUSTO PINOCHET. Because you and your cronies are obsessed with identifying those who might oppose you so that they can be "disappeared," you are the COP. Each night you may select a player and learn their affiliation. You win with the town.

Really? Two Cops?
That sets up an auto mislynch if one of them claims.
Tell me this isn't correct.
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4/1/2015 9:21:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:19:33 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 4/1/2015 7:49:35 PM, bsh1 wrote:
DIED IN THE NIGHT

Harder - You are AUGUSTO PINOCHET. Because you and your cronies are obsessed with identifying those who might oppose you so that they can be "disappeared," you are the COP. Each night you may select a player and learn their affiliation. You win with the town.

Really? Two Cops?

Firstly, that question carries with it the built-in assumption that there are two cops, which I can neither confirm nor deny.

That sets up an auto mislynch if one of them claims.
Tell me this isn't correct.

Secondly, all information posted is correct.
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4/1/2015 9:25:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:19:33 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 4/1/2015 7:49:35 PM, bsh1 wrote:
DIED IN THE NIGHT

Harder - You are AUGUSTO PINOCHET. Because you and your cronies are obsessed with identifying those who might oppose you so that they can be "disappeared," you are the COP. Each night you may select a player and learn their affiliation. You win with the town.

Really? Two Cops?
That sets up an auto mislynch if one of them claims.
Tell me this isn't correct.

Mod knows best, as always...yama, answer me: are you actually a cop? Or did you only lie about getting guilty on bhu?
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4/1/2015 9:25:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Unvote VTL Yama
B******t.
I have to die and if Harder is the Mimic, he should've flipped mimic.
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4/1/2015 9:31:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:25:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
Unvote VTL Yama
B******t.
I have to die and if Harder is the Mimic, he should've flipped mimic.

You do know right, that mimics NEVER flip mimic in any game? Same with rolestealers.

This doesn't confirm or deny anything. It's merely a point of clarification.
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4/1/2015 9:34:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:31:54 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:25:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
Unvote VTL Yama
B******t.
I have to die and if Harder is the Mimic, he should've flipped mimic.

You do know right, that mimics NEVER flip mimic in any game? Same with rolestealers.

This doesn't confirm or deny anything. It's merely a point of clarification.

Bsh, so you're saying that if a mimic mimics a role, then they appear as that role even upon death?
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4/1/2015 9:35:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:34:52 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:31:54 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:25:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
Unvote VTL Yama
B******t.
I have to die and if Harder is the Mimic, he should've flipped mimic.

You do know right, that mimics NEVER flip mimic in any game? Same with rolestealers.

This doesn't confirm or deny anything. It's merely a point of clarification.

Bsh, so you're saying that if a mimic mimics a role, then they appear as that role even upon death?

Correct. I don't know why Yama thinks it's any different, since that has been how I've done it in all my games.

However, I cannot confirm or deny that a mimic was or is present in this game.
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4/1/2015 9:35:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I don't think LAL should be applied here, but Yama did kill an innocent townie.
But that townie was Bhu...so IDK if it was justified or not...
Ugh...
Honestly I'm not sure if a vote on Yama is appropriate here...
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4/1/2015 9:40:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:35:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:34:52 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:31:54 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:25:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
Unvote VTL Yama
B******t.
I have to die and if Harder is the Mimic, he should've flipped mimic.

You do know right, that mimics NEVER flip mimic in any game? Same with rolestealers.

This doesn't confirm or deny anything. It's merely a point of clarification.

Bsh, so you're saying that if a mimic mimics a role, then they appear as that role even upon death?

Correct. I don't know why Yama thinks it's any different, since that has been how I've done it in all my games.

However, I cannot confirm or deny that a mimic was or is present in this game.

Is it possible for town to have 2 legit cops (like w/o counting mimics or role stealers)?
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4/1/2015 9:43:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Just a note: if 3 scum are present then it's LYLO.

I'm reluctant to lynch Yamacause Im torn between if we should follow LAL in this scenario or not...cause if Yama is indeed town we lose...
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4/1/2015 9:43:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:40:56 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:35:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:34:52 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:31:54 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:25:28 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
Unvote VTL Yama
B******t.
I have to die and if Harder is the Mimic, he should've flipped mimic.

You do know right, that mimics NEVER flip mimic in any game? Same with rolestealers.

This doesn't confirm or deny anything. It's merely a point of clarification.

Bsh, so you're saying that if a mimic mimics a role, then they appear as that role even upon death?

Correct. I don't know why Yama thinks it's any different, since that has been how I've done it in all my games.

However, I cannot confirm or deny that a mimic was or is present in this game.

Is it possible for town to have 2 legit cops (like w/o counting mimics or role stealers)?

It's possible...but I doubt it...
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4/1/2015 9:44:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
VOTE COUNT

Yama (2/4) - Saph, Yama
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4/1/2015 9:46:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm just going with my gut here...
VTL Yama
Even if it was Bhu, I feel lying just to lynch an innocent townie is shady as fvck.
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4/1/2015 9:57:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
So Harder was the Mimic.

Then we have a Survivor and Two mafia left.
Survivor needs to out and Molon needs to claim.
VTL Molon
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4/1/2015 9:58:09 PM
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VOTE COUNT

Yama (2/4) - Saph, Val
Molon (1/4) - Yama
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4/1/2015 9:58:48 PM
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My hatred of Bhu is seriously fvcking with my mind tonight.
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4/1/2015 10:03:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 9:57:19 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
So Harder was the Mimic.

Then we have a Survivor and Two mafia left.
Survivor needs to out and Molon needs to claim.
VTL Molon

Don't forget shadow and ash. They haven't claimed either. Why are you so sure we have a survivor? According to the google doc, we could also have cult or mason this time, I think.
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4/1/2015 10:04:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/1/2015 10:03:46 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:57:19 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
So Harder was the Mimic.

Then we have a Survivor and Two mafia left.
Survivor needs to out and Molon needs to claim.
VTL Molon

Don't forget shadow and ash. They haven't claimed either. Why are you so sure we have a survivor? According to the google doc, we could also have cult or mason this time, I think.

This game would be over.
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4/1/2015 10:05:26 PM
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At 4/1/2015 10:04:18 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 4/1/2015 10:03:46 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/1/2015 9:57:19 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
So Harder was the Mimic.

Then we have a Survivor and Two mafia left.
Survivor needs to out and Molon needs to claim.
VTL Molon

Don't forget shadow and ash. They haven't claimed either. Why are you so sure we have a survivor? According to the google doc, we could also have cult or mason this time, I think.

This game would be over.

Oh, right. I forgot about that.
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4/1/2015 10:14:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm actually quite suspicious of Shadow. He's inactive most of the game then just hops on to hammer Bhu.
Unvote
VTL Shadow

I'll trust Yama for now...but I'd like to hear from Shadow first.
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