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Beginners' Mafia 37.1: ENDGAME

bsh1
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4/13/2015 2:00:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Town wins!!

MAFIA

Voice - You are the LOOKOUT. Each night you may select a player. You will learn who visited them that night.

Yas - You are the VIGILANTE. Each night you may select someone to kill. You win with the town.

Formerly: You are the ROLESTEALER. Once per game you may select a player and permanently steal their role. Your target will become vanilla.

Wylted - You are the ROLE COP. Each night you may select a player and learn their role.

TOWN

Krieg - You are the PACIFIST. You cannot hammer someone. You win with the town.

BLAH - You are the VANILLA. You have no role. You win with the town.

Formerly: You are the VIGILANTE. Each night you may select someone to kill. You win with the town.

Saph - You are VANILLA. You have no role. You win with the town.

Vaar - You are the PARANOID GUN OWNER (PGO). You will kill anyone who visited you at night. You win with the town.

FT - You are the INNOCENT CHILD. Your affiliation will be mod-confirmed in the DP OP of DP4. You win with the town.

Molon - You are the ROLE COP. Each night you may visit a player and learn their role but not their affiliation. You win with the town.

Val - You are the COP. Each night you may investigate a player and learn their affiliation (guilty = mafia; innocent = town). You win with the town.

NIGHT ACTIONS

NP1

Yassine- Rlst. BLAH
Wylted- Rlcp. Molon/NK BLAH
VOT- Lkt. FT
Molon: Role cop Wylted
Valkrin: Cop BLAH

NP2

Wylted: NK Molon
Val: Cop Molon

NP2

Voice: Lkt. Vaar/NK Val
Val: Cop Voice
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4/13/2015 2:04:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
VOT, the PGO outed himself in the DP, but you made that decision without talking it over, so I couldn't warn you, but GG otherwise
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4/13/2015 2:04:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Voice: Lkt. Vaar/NK Val

I told you guys I was PGO XD
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
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All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

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4/13/2015 2:06:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
NP2

Voice: Lkt. Vaar/NK Val
Val: Cop Voice

I think you meant NP3 bsh
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All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya
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4/13/2015 2:07:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:06:36 PM, Vaarka wrote:
NP2

Voice: Lkt. Vaar/NK Val
Val: Cop Voice

I think you meant NP3 bsh

Lol...yeah...but it's okay...
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4/13/2015 2:08:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Take a lesson from this game, town. This game could've ended up just as easily a mafia win. Had VOT not visited Vaarka, it would've been LYLO at 2-1. You guys had no cop because Valkrin would've been dead. The lesson is - don't rush your lynches - not only for my convenience but for your accuracy.

The luckiest moment of the game was BLAH's choice of kill. I did not think he'd target Yassine, and it ended up being the best decision of the game.
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4/13/2015 2:09:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Weird game. I thought an early Mislynch plus bussing VoT DP3 would keep Yas alive long enough so that we'd get basically 6 town deaths (mislynch, plus 5 NKs from double NKs) for my sacrifice and then a bus of VOT. I was sure stealing the VIG role won us the game, but Blah took a shot at Yassine for God knows what reason and it really paid off.

I thought Blah was possibly a genius for that.
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4/13/2015 2:10:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
My fault for the FT lynch. Again, apologies to him.
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." - Vaarka
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4/13/2015 2:10:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:08:04 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Take a lesson from this game, town. This game could've ended up just as easily a mafia win. Had VOT not visited Vaarka, it would've been LYLO at 2-1. You guys had no cop because Valkrin would've been dead. The lesson is - don't rush your lynches - not only for my convenience but for your accuracy.

The luckiest moment of the game was BLAH's choice of kill. I did not think he'd target Yassine, and it ended up being the best decision of the game.

^This.

I think it is also important to remind everyone of the value of a claims list. A claims list is a list of all the claims made by players in the game. Usually, town keeps one in the DP and mafia keeps one in its PM. This is useful for a variety of reasons, but, as far as this game is concerned, it may have helped mafia NOT visit the PGO.
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4/13/2015 2:11:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Also FT was right, about not listening to scum, once they're caught. I'm not quite sure why Val would think a caught scum would actually try to bus somebody.
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4/13/2015 2:13:10 PM
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Another thing that could've gone better was mafia's NP1 NK. I don't understand why they went for BLAH. He would be vanilla after the role steal anyway, so I thought they were better off going for the chance of hitting one of the cops or taking out the most experienced townie - FT.
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4/13/2015 2:15:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I have to say. I really enjoyed this game. You guys actually put more reasoning and whatnot into what you do and it makes the game more interesting. Meanwhile, whenever I play this with friends, it usually ends up being random guesses and whatnot.
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
ButterCatX: "No, Vaarka is mine!"

All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya
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4/13/2015 2:15:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
As Wylted said - short DPs deprive the town of information.
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And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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4/13/2015 2:16:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:13:10 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Another thing that could've gone better was mafia's NP1 NK. I don't understand why they went for BLAH. He would be vanilla after the role steal anyway, so I thought they were better off going for the chance of hitting one of the cops or taking out the most experienced townie - FT.

I agree. After that I was kinda shaking my head at myself. For some reason I was thinking his role would still flip Vigilante, and town would have no clue we stole his role.
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4/13/2015 2:17:39 PM
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Blah's night action isn't in the OP. Vigging yassine--that was incredibly lucky. Otherwise mafia would almost certainly have won. Voice, why visit a claimed PGO? I don't get that.
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4/13/2015 2:18:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:17:39 PM, Sapphique wrote:
Blah's night action isn't in the OP. Vigging yassine--that was incredibly lucky. Otherwise mafia would almost certainly have won. Voice, why visit a claimed PGO? I don't get that.

Oh...sorry...
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4/13/2015 2:19:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:15:51 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
As Wylted said - short DPs deprive the town of information.
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Valkrin
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4/13/2015 2:24:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I really need to work on my play as town. I did sh!tty this game. FT was right in a lot of his points.

Ah well, the whole point of a beginner's series is to improve, so I've got many more chances to redeem myself and improve upon my play.

Regardless, good game and great job from Voice. You had me fooled.
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." - Vaarka
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4/13/2015 2:26:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
And FT - calm down.

And everyone, stop posting when I say to stop posting.

Ok, I think I've duly chastised everyone now.
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4/13/2015 2:27:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:24:44 PM, Valkrin wrote:
Regardless, good game and great job from Voice. You had me fooled.

^So this. I thought you were town most of the time, with some suspicion DP2 but overall still town. GG. I need to work on that but overall I thought I did ok XD
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"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form...the shape of happiness might resemble glass...even though you don't usually notice it, it's still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." ~Lelouch
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4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM
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I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)
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"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form...the shape of happiness might resemble glass...even though you don't usually notice it, it's still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." ~Lelouch
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4/13/2015 2:38:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM, Sapphique wrote:
I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)

I see you haven't met Khaos yet...
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4/13/2015 2:40:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:38:21 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM, Sapphique wrote:
I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)

I see you haven't met Khaos yet...

That I have not. Is he worse than wylted?
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"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form...the shape of happiness might resemble glass...even though you don't usually notice it, it's still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." ~Lelouch
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4/13/2015 2:43:52 PM
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At 4/13/2015 2:40:16 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:38:21 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM, Sapphique wrote:
I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)

I see you haven't met Khaos yet...

That I have not. Is he worse than wylted?

You have no idea...
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4/13/2015 2:50:49 PM
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At 4/13/2015 2:43:52 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:40:16 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:38:21 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM, Sapphique wrote:
I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)

I see you haven't met Khaos yet...

That I have not. Is he worse than wylted?

You have no idea...

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My work here is, finally, done.
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4/13/2015 2:51:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:50:49 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:43:52 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:40:16 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:38:21 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM, Sapphique wrote:
I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)

I see you haven't met Khaos yet...

That I have not. Is he worse than wylted?

You have no idea...

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Touche.

I don't m8, but it seems that Sapphique here would if she can't handle Wylted.
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4/13/2015 2:56:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 2:38:21 PM, RevNge wrote:
At 4/13/2015 2:30:23 PM, Sapphique wrote:
I still enjoyed this game much more than any in the previous series. The absence of bhu/316 works wonders. Wylted, you infuriate me. But for the most part, I liked playing with you guys. It was fun :)

I see you haven't met Khaos yet...

Me and Wylted are hardly the same person when it comes to mafia. In fact, I rage quit the last game, largely due to Wylted's behavior.
I annoy people, but it is hardly my intent to do so, just collateral damage.
My work here is, finally, done.
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4/13/2015 2:57:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Yeah, sorry I got pissed earlier. I was starving and dehydrated and hung over and was reacting more emotionally than I should have.

I had some food and drink and feel much better now.

But the points were legit though.