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Ore_Ele
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4/20/2015 12:33:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Who do you consider the best town players? The best mafia player? And the best third party players? Who is the top tier, the second tier, and who is down at the bottom?
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4/20/2015 12:42:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:33:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Who do you consider the best town players? The best mafia player? And the best third party players? Who is the top tier, the second tier, and who is down at the bottom?

Top Tier:
BlackVoid, F-16, FT, Bluesteel, and a few others

Bottom Tier:
Rev, Yama, Sapphique, Valkrin, Geographia, and other newbies

Middle Tier:
Everyone else
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4/20/2015 12:44:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:33:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Who do you consider the best town players? The best mafia player? And the best third party players? Who is the top tier, the second tier, and who is down at the bottom?

You want us to openly say who we think is in the bottom tier of mafia... while you offer no such information. Sneaky Ore.
Ore_Ele
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4/20/2015 12:51:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:44:58 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 4/20/2015 12:33:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Who do you consider the best town players? The best mafia player? And the best third party players? Who is the top tier, the second tier, and who is down at the bottom?

You want us to openly say who we think is in the bottom tier of mafia... while you offer no such information. Sneaky Ore.

okay, skip the bottom tier. But who do you consider the top tier in the different categories and who is "good" but not quite "great" (tier 2)
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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4/20/2015 12:52:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:51:12 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 4/20/2015 12:44:58 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 4/20/2015 12:33:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Who do you consider the best town players? The best mafia player? And the best third party players? Who is the top tier, the second tier, and who is down at the bottom?

You want us to openly say who we think is in the bottom tier of mafia... while you offer no such information. Sneaky Ore.

okay, skip the bottom tier. But who do you consider the top tier in the different categories and who is "good" but not quite "great" (tier 2)

But you are not answering your OP though.

Who are the worst mafia players on the site, Ore_Ele? And why are they so bad?
Ore_Ele
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4/20/2015 12:53:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:44:58 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 4/20/2015 12:33:54 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Who do you consider the best town players? The best mafia player? And the best third party players? Who is the top tier, the second tier, and who is down at the bottom?

You want us to openly say who we think is in the bottom tier of mafia... while you offer no such information. Sneaky Ore.

Though you should wait. While I really want to hear what you have to say. It can have an impact on the current Borderlands game, so you should wait until the game is over before saying anything.
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BlackVoid
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4/20/2015 12:56:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Top tier: Dalt, HPG, Rev, FT
Upper tier: Bossy, Me, Ford, Raisor
Mid-tier: TUF, Bluesteel, Ore
Low tier: F-16, YYW, Yama
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4/20/2015 12:59:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:56:36 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Top tier: Dalt, HPG, Rev, FT
Upper tier: Bossy, Me, Ford, Raisor
Mid-tier: TUF, Bluesteel, Ore
Low tier: F-16, YYW, Yama

Do you find that to be the same for all affiliations? Or are some people better as mafia than as town?
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BlackVoid
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4/20/2015 1:02:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:59:42 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 4/20/2015 12:56:36 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Top tier: Dalt, HPG, Rev, FT
Upper tier: Bossy, Me, Ford, Raisor
Mid-tier: TUF, Bluesteel, Ore
Low tier: F-16, YYW, Yama

Do you find that to be the same for all affiliations? Or are some people better as mafia than as town?

Well I think Rev is the best townie, hence his place at the top tier. F-16 is a damn good scum, but he sucks balls as town, so bad that he still had to be put in bottom tier. Bluesteel is so-so as both. Not bad, not great.
BlackVoid
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4/20/2015 1:10:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
In case anyone actually took that seriously, that list has literally no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever. I made it as random as I possibly could.
Maikuru
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4/20/2015 5:16:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Some of the common names thrown around are bluesteel, f-16, blackvoid, and airmax, but I actually haven't played much with any of them in forum so I don't have much to add there. I was once on a scum team with f-16 and he is really incredible, though.

I've played a lot with ft and he is great as town. Very active and creative. If I were building a town team, he'd be on it.

Lucky is also really great to play with. Super engaged and thoughtful, and fun to chat with in pm's.

Tuf and Budda are also a lot of fun in game. I tend to get frustrated with them in-game because I think we have different styles, but getting other townies to question themselves and think in different ways is part of a good player.

Dalt is underrated and has been a problem for me to deal with as scum before. He posts good analyses and is likable enough to get others on his side.

I'm just going off memory. I'll name more when I think of them.
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Maikuru
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4/20/2015 5:17:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I might double-check this at some point but I'm pretty sure I've never been lynched, as town or as scum.
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Maikuru
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4/20/2015 5:21:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Yraelz is also really good, though he would fall in love with his reads as town sometimes and lose some adaptability. Really creative as scum, though.

Bossy is great and I think underrated as town. Same with logic_on_rails. We've actually got a lot of strong players.
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4/20/2015 6:07:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'd probably miss people if I did tiers. Khaos and Dalt are great as scum. I have only limited experience with Maikuru and Raisor, but they were both stellar scum in live mafia. I haven't seem enough of their forum play to make that same judgement.

For town, FT. I've only played one game with Yraelz, and that was a game I replaced into partway through, when I was still young and inexperienced. I can't make a judgment on his play. XLAV is good, as town, though I wouldn't put him top-tier. BlackVoid and F-16 are pretty good as town as well.
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4/20/2015 6:27:05 PM
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Khaos is always scum!!!
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4/20/2015 6:31:46 PM
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At 4/20/2015 12:56:36 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Top tier: Dalt, HPG, Rev, FT
Upper tier: Bossy, Me, Ford, Raisor
Mid-tier: TUF, Bluesteel, Ore
Low tier: F-16, YYW, Yama

Lol Did you just randomly assign people places?
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4/20/2015 6:32:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 1:10:27 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
In case anyone actually took that seriously, that list has literally no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever. I made it as random as I possibly could.

Yup
Bullish
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4/20/2015 7:21:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'd say FT and Maikuru are absolute nxt gen mlg pro mafia palyers. FT is a god town side, Maikuru is excellent on either.
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4/20/2015 7:30:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
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4/20/2015 7:57:58 PM
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At 4/20/2015 12:56:36 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Top tier: Dalt, HPG, Rev, FT
Upper tier: Bossy, Me, Ford, Raisor
Mid-tier: TUF, Bluesteel, Ore
Low tier: F-16, YYW, Yama

You have to be joking...
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4/20/2015 7:58:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 1:10:27 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
In case anyone actually took that seriously, that list has literally no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever. I made it as random as I possibly could.

Oh, thank god.
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Maikuru
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4/20/2015 8:47:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/20/2015 12:56:36 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Top tier: Dalt, HPG, Rev, FT
Upper tier: Bossy, Me, Ford, Raisor
Mid-tier: TUF, Bluesteel, Ore
Low tier: F-16, YYW, Yama

THIS IS OUTRAGEO....oh wait I read your next post.
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4/20/2015 9:18:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It is hard to pick out best town and best mafia players since everyone has different skills at the game.

Some people are good at analyzing data. Others are good at getting alignment indicative reactions. Some have fantastic early gut reads. Others have excellent analysis late game and almost always bring home the win. Some have very good solo reads. Others are incredibly persuasive. Some are persuasive and combative. Others are charismatic and diplomatic. Still others lead through passion. I was thinking about various different players on DDO while writing this out but I can't really think of one "best" player. Everyone's very different skills at the game are a treasure. Town wins when they work well together. Scum wins when their abilities outstrip that of town - in an ideal world. In the real DDO world, majority of games are decided by game balance.
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4/20/2015 9:24:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
My Theme analysis is scary good.
Town just has their heads stuck too far up their @sses to trust it.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW
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4/20/2015 9:25:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Mafia really isn't my forte.
I prefer when I have a physical crime scene to work with and sane witnesses ton interview.
Here, you'll just get people who you can't work with in a professional manner.

... If I was a better mod, I'd start FATE based mafia games that fit a format more like this.
People who I've called as mafia DP1:
TUF, and YYW