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TheGreatAndPowerful
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5/1/2015 6:10:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Died in the Night
No one

Graveyard
RevNge - Survivor - Third Party

Living Players
1. Mikal
2. Skepsikyma
3. HPG
4. Yama
5. Medic
6. XLAV
7. Bullish
8. F-16

With 8 players, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

This day phase will end no later than 5/3 @ 7:00 AM, Eastern
Bullish
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5/1/2015 6:38:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
That wasn't just C/Ping the PM, that was impersonating the mod. Unethical IMO.

Genuine frustration my a$s lol.

Scum "knew" rev was "town." In my experience this means they'lol defend him for town cred but then have no problem lynching them. This looks good for myself, skep, and Mikal, bad for F16 and his sheep buddy XLAV.

Anyone else remember this?
http://www.debate.org...

I want an explanation from mikal.
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medic0506
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5/1/2015 6:51:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 6:32:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
VTL Medic

For what, hammering TP near the end of the DP, after F-16 agreed to lynch him??
Mikal
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5/1/2015 8:11:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 6:38:38 AM, Bullish wrote:
That wasn't just C/Ping the PM, that was impersonating the mod. Unethical IMO.

Genuine frustration my a$s lol.

Scum "knew" rev was "town." In my experience this means they'lol defend him for town cred but then have no problem lynching them. This looks good for myself, skep, and Mikal, bad for F16 and his sheep buddy XLAV.

Anyone else remember this?
http://www.debate.org...

I want an explanation from mikal.

I had a hunch. I saw this game going one of two ways either 7 2 or 6 2 1.

Now I think it's 6 1 1 or something like that

I was talking to dafter on hangouts when we were doing a mine craft thing and I asked him about the game. When I mentioned him putting survivors in his tone implied there was a high chance. He never stated it verbatim but just off his change in voice it was heavily implied

That is why I said 6 2 1 for my math at the start
Mikal
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5/1/2015 8:16:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I was thinking it was just survivors thwt solo won. Nm on the 6 1 1 1 I just read revs thing again and it's joint win. Prob 6 2 1 then
XLAV
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5/1/2015 8:29:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 6:51:06 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:32:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
VTL Medic

For what, hammering TP near the end of the DP, after F-16 agreed to lynch him??

What? You expect town cred? lol
Mikal
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5/1/2015 8:38:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Actually I'm going to full claim as I think it's useful now

i lied about the drafter thing to stall out for pressure about my roll as it would out me and I wanted 2 nps to use it. My role basically hinted there was a survivor if I were to think hard enough and I caught it the second he sent the roll out.

I am the cop

I either get mafia or not mafia as a result.

I could not figure out why it was not guilty when I first got it and then thinking about it further it would be a perfect counter balance if there was a tp. If I investigated rev I would get not mafia because he was not mafia.

Now with that I investigated f 16 and got not mafia

I want to figure out why there was no night kill and we have a valid lynch pool then

Either there is a doc or bp on town or mafia waived to fake claim one of those

Be when I get to work but f 16 is inno. After he changes his play at the end of the dp I had to look at him or it would have bugged me all game
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5/1/2015 8:40:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I also see no chance of me being flavored because of that mech with survivor as well. My Initial plan was to investigate myself but With the tp flip it coordinated with my theory

Does not rule out a gf
Mikal
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5/1/2015 8:41:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:40:38 AM, XLAV wrote:
Why the fvck did you cop F16 and not Skep???

His change in play at the end of th dp bugged me to no end , skeps 100 percent in th pool as is bullish.
Mikal
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5/1/2015 8:43:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:40:38 AM, XLAV wrote:
Why the fvck did you cop F16 and not Skep???

Also I'm confident enough in lynching skep that I did not need too

I still think he's scum.mwanted to try and look for the 2
XLAV
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5/1/2015 8:45:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:43:13 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:40:38 AM, XLAV wrote:
Why the fvck did you cop F16 and not Skep???

Also I'm confident enough in lynching skep that I did not need too

I still think he's scum.mwanted to try and look for the 2

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com...
Mikal
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5/1/2015 8:47:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:45:04 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:43:13 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:40:38 AM, XLAV wrote:
Why the fvck did you cop F16 and not Skep???

Also I'm confident enough in lynching skep that I did not need too

I still think he's scum.mwanted to try and look for the 2

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com...

I care way less about skep than f 16

Dude had a complete deviation in play at the end of the do and contradicted himself like twice trying to get off a lynch
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5/1/2015 8:49:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:47:02 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:45:04 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:43:13 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:40:38 AM, XLAV wrote:
Why the fvck did you cop F16 and not Skep???

Also I'm confident enough in lynching skep that I did not need too

I still think he's scum.mwanted to try and look for the 2

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com...

I care way less about skep than f 16

Dude had a complete deviation in play at the end of the do and contradicted himself like twice trying to get off a lynch

Pay attention.
F-16 always had a lean town on Rev, but was always willing to lynch him. Same thing with me, I had a lean town on Rev, but he was my weakest town read, so I'm also willing to lynch him.
medic0506
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5/1/2015 9:00:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:29:39 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:51:06 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:32:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
VTL Medic

For what, hammering TP near the end of the DP, after F-16 agreed to lynch him??

What? You expect town cred? lol

No. Do you always answer a question with a question??
XLAV
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5/1/2015 9:07:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 9:00:10 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:29:39 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:51:06 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:32:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
VTL Medic

For what, hammering TP near the end of the DP, after F-16 agreed to lynch him??

What? You expect town cred? lol

No. Do you always answer a question with a question??

Why are you asking me this fluffy question?
medic0506
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5/1/2015 9:13:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 9:07:15 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 9:00:10 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:29:39 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:51:06 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 5/1/2015 6:32:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
VTL Medic

For what, hammering TP near the end of the DP, after F-16 agreed to lynch him??

What? You expect town cred? lol

No. Do you always answer a question with a question??

Why are you asking me this fluffy question?

Why is it fluffy to ask that, when I asked you a question and instead of answering it, you asked a stupid question?? It's a legit question and deserves an answer.
Bullish
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5/1/2015 9:17:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
XLAV would you shut up about medic. You're tunneling him worse than I tunneled Mikal.
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Bullish
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5/1/2015 9:33:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 8:49:28 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:47:02 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:45:04 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:43:13 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 5/1/2015 8:40:38 AM, XLAV wrote:
Why the fvck did you cop F16 and not Skep???

Also I'm confident enough in lynching skep that I did not need too

I still think he's scum.mwanted to try and look for the 2

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com...

I care way less about skep than f 16

Dude had a complete deviation in play at the end of the do and contradicted himself like twice trying to get off a lynch

Pay attention.
F-16 always had a lean town on Rev, but was always willing to lynch him. Same thing with me, I had a lean town on Rev, but he was my weakest town read, so I'm also willing to lynch him.

Why would you ever lynch a town read. F16 did it because he wasn't sure about rev presumably after he talked with me.
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5/1/2015 10:55:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 6:32:26 AM, XLAV wrote:
VTL Medic

@F16, so how is Mikal scum?

I re-read the thread overnight. I think he's more likely town. In the heat of the moment, it felt like Mikal was doing what he did for scum benefit. I don't think that is the case now.
Mikal
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5/1/2015 11:04:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm back on a computer so let me lay this out and walk you guys through it step by step.

My role PM states verbatim that when I investigate , that I get results of "Mafia" or "Not Mafia". My first initial thoughts were why in the hell would he put mafia or not mafia instead of guilty and not guilty.

Guilty and not guilty is not limited to just mafia but other tp factions and survivors, so when I thought about it some more the fact that he had limited my results to mafia or not mafia indicates that there had to be some balance in the game for it. Meaning there was likely a TP

I wanted to get 2 conclusive results because at that point I knew there was a slim chance of being flavored, as my "flavor" would be to get an innocent on the survivor. With 2 direct mafia or not mafia results, we could drastically narrow down the pool and have a huge poe from DP3 no matter what happened prior to that.

Hence this post

" http://www.debate.org... "

When rev died it validated my theory but then I knew i would have to explain why I said that. So I asked drafter if he cared and I lied about him telling me something, and he said he would not confirm or deny anything either way. So I went with that to try and get another nights worth of results

The reason I investigated f16 was because I directly recall him arguing that the even day odd day lynch mat was wrong in another thread, and then having him support it in that thread to drive a lynch home. Not to mention the fact he said he would hop a wagon on me after he said earlier that it was not productive to lynch me when I had confirm myself. He contradicted himself like twice and it was a giant deviation in play

As i said he is practically confirmed now because If im flavored on top of getting just strictly results that are limited to mafia and not the TP then I i have already lost.

Confirmed town in my head

F-16

Strong town

HPG

The rest I'll go with as the day phase progresses but I think the likely scum pile is between these three. I hinted at it last day phase now im pretty sure
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5/1/2015 11:05:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/1/2015 6:38:38 AM, Bullish wrote:
That wasn't just C/Ping the PM, that was impersonating the mod. Unethical IMO.

Genuine frustration my a$s lol.

Scum "knew" rev was "town." In my experience this means they'lol defend him for town cred but then have no problem lynching them. This looks good for myself, skep, and Mikal, bad for F16 and his sheep buddy XLAV.

Anyone else remember this?
http://www.debate.org...

I want an explanation from mikal.

Rev was survivor. Not town, not mafia. There were things he did that fit with both alignments. Like scum, he fake-claimed, made up the PGO claim to deter nightkills, and was too focused on his own survival. Like town, he was uninformed and had no clue who the mafia was, and like town his wagon was easy to come by because scum likely wanted to make sure it went through. He also claimed that he was playing like town so his scumhunting was genuine.

There is no right or wrong answer here and it doesn't make anyone look "good" or "bad" by itself.
Mikal
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5/1/2015 11:06:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Well really these 4. I think the people that were driving the medic lynch were going for a miss lynch so i'm def stuck on xlav being scum right now

Xlav, Skep, Bullish, Yama