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5/3/2015 7:41:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
THE DP SET-UP

https://docs.google.com...

There's some old expression about rain...

LIVING PLAYERS

Voice
Yas
Val
Molon
Vaar
Saph
Krieg
Blah
Wylted
FT

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 7:30pm, DDO time, on 5/5/15.


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5/3/2015 7:57:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I thought about pulling an Xlav but I don't have those kind of balls...

I'm a miller.

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5/3/2015 9:05:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Krieg
Here's hoping he actually posts this time. If he does I think it's likely to be near the beginning of the game since that's what I remember him doing before (37.1 or 37.2 I forget). So I want to get something to go on from him before he disappears again.
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5/3/2015 9:11:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 8:57:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
VTL Miller I think Millers should be policy lynched. It's a good mafia fake claim.

Don't you think it might be a little obvious? Scum know they'll look guilty if there's a cop so naturally they would try to find a way to explain that. From what I've heard FT is a really good player. If he's mafia I'd actually have expected him to claim something else, especially if miller is known as a good scum fake claim.
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"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form...the shape of happiness might resemble glass...even though you don't usually notice it, it's still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." ~Lelouch
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5/3/2015 9:29:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 9:11:36 PM, Sapphique wrote:
Don't you think it might be a little obvious? Scum know they'll look guilty if there's a cop so naturally they would try to find a way to explain that. From what I've heard FT is a really good player. If he's mafia I'd actually have expected him to claim something else, especially if miller is known as a good scum fake claim.

Miller isn't a good fake-claim, unless mafia knows there isn't a miller. When someone's first post is claiming miller, and especially if it's the first post in the game, it's 100% not fake. That's why the standard procedure on DDO is for townies to claim miller right away; it's partially self-confirming, and it helps cops not waste an investigation on them.
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5/3/2015 9:32:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Also, you can still catch mafia if they fake-claim miller via behavior or through tracker/watcher results.
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5/3/2015 9:54:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well it's about time this game finally started...

As for roles, would one of you be willing to tell me your roles (I'll take no for an answer if that's what you wish)?
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5/3/2015 10:31:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Valk for having a long sig.
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5/3/2015 11:17:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 10:31:11 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
VTL Valk for having a long sig.

Val hasn't even posted in this game yet. And I have a pretty long sig too. And you're not still replaced in for Krieg, are you?
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5/4/2015 12:03:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 11:17:22 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 5/3/2015 10:31:11 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
VTL Valk for having a long sig.

Val hasn't even posted in this game yet.
Hence the vote.
And I have a pretty long sig too.
Yours is prettier.
And you're not still replaced in for Krieg, are you?
Yep. Must be a mod error.

Won't be on until ~11:00 EST tomorrow.
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- Lord Dunsany -

"Over her head the stars, the thoughts of God in the heavens,
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5/4/2015 12:07:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 7:41:51 PM, bsh1 wrote:
LIVING PLAYERS

Voice
Yas
Val
Molon
Vaar
Saph
Skep
Blah
Wylted
FT
"It's the PUPPY IN THE SKY!" -TBR's kid

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5/4/2015 12:12:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 8:57:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
VTL Miller I think Millers should be policy lynched. It's a good mafia fake claim.

Vote is invalid.
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5/4/2015 12:19:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 12:07:30 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/3/2015 9:05:44 PM, Sapphique wrote:
VTL Krieg

Vote is invalid.

Meh, how was I to know?
Unvote VTL vaar
Continuing with the sig thing :) What does the 2nd part of your sig mean? I've wondered that for a while.
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5/4/2015 12:21:19 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Vote count:

Wylted - (1/6) - FT
Valkrin - (1/6) - Skep
Vaarka - (1/6) - Saph
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5/4/2015 3:02:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 9:11:36 PM, Sapphique wrote:
At 5/3/2015 8:57:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
VTL Miller I think Millers should be policy lynched. It's a good mafia fake claim.

Don't you think it might be a little obvious? Scum know they'll look guilty if there's a cop so naturally they would try to find a way to explain that. From what I've heard FT is a really good player. If he's mafia I'd actually have expected him to claim something else, especially if miller is known as a good scum fake claim.

He'd ply high risk high reward as scum or very lazy. People that hate playing scum will play high risk high reward type strategies, so they can be psuedo confirmed early and just coast. Or they'll just be lazy and coast.

It is kinda SOP for Miller to claim early around here, but I'd like that to change.

I'm growing kinda concerned about you, though. The excessive explanation for your vote is something I do a lot as scum, but nobody seems to notice. I'll have to see your other games to see if it's something you'll do. If we can't lynch FT than I'd like to pressure you for a claim. I'll sit back and see what everyone does for now.
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5/4/2015 3:04:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/3/2015 9:29:40 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 5/3/2015 9:11:36 PM, Sapphique wrote:
Don't you think it might be a little obvious? Scum know they'll look guilty if there's a cop so naturally they would try to find a way to explain that. From what I've heard FT is a really good player. If he's mafia I'd actually have expected him to claim something else, especially if miller is known as a good scum fake claim.

Miller isn't a good fake-claim, unless mafia knows there isn't a miller. When someone's first post is claiming miller, and especially if it's the first post in the game, it's 100% not fake. That's why the standard procedure on DDO is for townies to claim miller right away; it's partially self-confirming, and it helps cops not waste an investigation on them.

I hate that standard procedure, and if there are 3 total mafia and I'm reasonably sure of a cop existing (due to having a godfather or something), I'd certainly risk being CCed.
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5/4/2015 3:06:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 12:12:09 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/3/2015 8:57:29 PM, Wylted wrote:
VTL Miller I think Millers should be policy lynched. It's a good mafia fake claim.

Vote is invalid.

Lol, sorry.

Unvote VTL four trouble
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5/4/2015 6:37:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I have some tests I need to take early this morning. I won't return until later on in the day.
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5/4/2015 6:49:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Vote count:

Wylted - (1/6) - FT
Valkrin - (1/6) - Skep
Vaarka - (1/6) - Saph
FT - (1/6) - Wylted
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5/4/2015 6:56:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Valkrin

No real reason for doing this, but I find it unlikely that he would be town all 3 games. Let's just see how he acts.
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5/4/2015 7:52:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 12:19:15 AM, Sapphique wrote:
At 5/4/2015 12:07:30 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/3/2015 9:05:44 PM, Sapphique wrote:
VTL Krieg

Vote is invalid.

Meh, how was I to know?
Unvote VTL vaar
Continuing with the sig thing :) What does the 2nd part of your sig mean? I've wondered that for a while.

Well it's supposed to have those little ` things and whatnot, but it wouldn't work on DDO. Anyway, it translates to "I hope your dentist impales himself on a mailbox."
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
ButterCat: "No, Vaarka is mine!"

All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya

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5/4/2015 7:53:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
OK, I'm able to get on for a little bit.
I'd like character claims as opposed to role claims, seeing as thematic analysis is important here.

VTL Yas

I'd like to hear something from him early. If he isn't going to be active, as per usual, I'd like at least his character so we know where to go from there.

I'll be back later.
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5/4/2015 7:58:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 6:37:53 AM, Valkrin wrote:
I have some tests I need to take early this morning. I won't return until later on in the day.

Same here.
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
ButterCat: "No, Vaarka is mine!"

All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya

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5/4/2015 8:53:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
VTL Saph

No legitimate reason other than she hasn't been scum this series.
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5/4/2015 9:00:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 8:53:49 AM, 21MolonLabe wrote:
VTL Saph

No legitimate reason other than she hasn't been scum this series.

molon, only 5 people out of 11 have been mafia before this game. That leaves 6 people who haven't been mafia. A VTL for that isn't exactly a great reason imo.
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
ButterCat: "No, Vaarka is mine!"

All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya

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5/4/2015 9:06:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 9:00:27 AM, Vaarka wrote:
At 5/4/2015 8:53:49 AM, 21MolonLabe wrote:
VTL Saph

No legitimate reason other than she hasn't been scum this series.

molon, only 5 people out of 11 have been mafia before this game. That leaves 6 people who haven't been mafia. A VTL for that isn't exactly a great reason imo.

I know. Maybe we can Character get a claim out of her. Wanna help?
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5/4/2015 9:09:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/4/2015 9:06:02 AM, 21MolonLabe wrote:
At 5/4/2015 9:00:27 AM, Vaarka wrote:
At 5/4/2015 8:53:49 AM, 21MolonLabe wrote:
VTL Saph

No legitimate reason other than she hasn't been scum this series.

molon, only 5 people out of 11 have been mafia before this game. That leaves 6 people who haven't been mafia. A VTL for that isn't exactly a great reason imo.

I know. Maybe we can Character get a claim out of her. Wanna help?

I'll help.

UNVOTE VTL Saph